Money Shot 2017

[Money Shot]

Getting KK is a bit craycray (crazy).
Defence will want to be filled with the likes of Docherty, Monty, Adams, Shaw, Laird, Rance, Vince, Boyd, Simpson, and even JJ who comes before KK anyway, alphabetically at least. ;)
Too many good picks available. Can't see KK as one... too speculative for mine.

Yeah good point! The defence actually have better scoring potential than the forward line this year. Although I am going for a lot of mid pricers this year I highly doubt KK will be one of them.

MS welcome to 2017 teams mate,  What is your thinking behind a mid pricer defence?    I do find it difficult to justify high 500K prices for def prems.   On the other hand we will need to have Shaw, Doc, Simmo by year end so a strategy must account for how to get them into the team as well.

If you look back a few posts I have completely changed my team structure as I agree. Shaw, Docherty and Simpson should all be in my defence come seasons end.

[Money Shot]

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Hi MS, like your second team. Personally don't see the advantage of weakening your midfield, as earlier suggested, to strengthen either your defence of forward line. Can't see who you'd bring in that would increase your scoring and money making ability to make it a viable proposition. I would suggest you keep an eye on Scooter Selwood to see what role the Cats have in mind for him, perhaps put him on your watchlist. I've changed my team a couple of hundred times already trying to find the right combination of players and it is currently different to anything I have put up as yet. But this is my midfield at this point in time :-

Danger,   Pendles,   Fyfe,   T Mitchell,   Beams,   S Selwood,   D Swallow,   D Myers,      //  S Pepper - Powell,   J Foote,   C Brown

cheers mate         ;)

First four are guns and I love the Mitchell pick. Beams I don't think will score enough to be a keeper as he has to manage himself for the rest of his carrer, Selwood is to be a risk for me and I don't think he will go over 90+ and therefore be a wasted pick (imo) Swallow I like however as he could average 100 and be a great stepping stone. Myers is a gun.

Agree on Beams although still see him as averaging 100 which means he makes us about 120k whilst scoring pretty well. If Scooter averages 90 he makes  approx 200k and has good JS. I'm going for money and security plus throw in a little wishful thinking on Beams who most will have anyway. Cheers mate.     :)

Yeah beams has enough up side to start although he isn't a must in my opinion. So I'm happy to leave him out at this stage and go for a super premo. I must admit that I did have a look at scooter but he just isn't going to score 90 in my opinion with Danger and Joel already scoring 120+ most weeks. I see him averaging around 80 and I personally would save 100k or so and get a proper rookie in who will only score 5 points less.

[Gigantor]

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Hi MS, like your second team. Personally don't see the advantage of weakening your midfield, as earlier suggested, to strengthen either your defence of forward line. Can't see who you'd bring in that would increase your scoring and money making ability to make it a viable proposition. I would suggest you keep an eye on Scooter Selwood to see what role the Cats have in mind for him, perhaps put him on your watchlist. I've changed my team a couple of hundred times already trying to find the right combination of players and it is currently different to anything I have put up as yet. But this is my midfield at this point in time :-

Danger,   Pendles,   Fyfe,   T Mitchell,   Beams,   S Selwood,   D Swallow,   D Myers,      //  S Pepper - Powell,   J Foote,   C Brown

cheers mate         ;)

First four are guns and I love the Mitchell pick. Beams I don't think will score enough to be a keeper as he has to manage himself for the rest of his carrer, Selwood is to be a risk for me and I don't think he will go over 90+ and therefore be a wasted pick (imo) Swallow I like however as he could average 100 and be a great stepping stone. Myers is a gun.

Agree on Beams although still see him as averaging 100 which means he makes us about 120k whilst scoring pretty well. If Scooter averages 90 he makes  approx 200k and has good JS. I'm going for money and security plus throw in a little wishful thinking on Beams who most will have anyway. Cheers mate.     :)

I think you are being a bit optimistic with those numbers, Beams would be around a 60k rise, SSelwood 160k

The magic number used during the year is considerably lower than the one used to calculate players starting prices.

[Sabretooth Tigers]

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Hi MS, like your second team. Personally don't see the advantage of weakening your midfield, as earlier suggested, to strengthen either your defence of forward line. Can't see who you'd bring in that would increase your scoring and money making ability to make it a viable proposition. I would suggest you keep an eye on Scooter Selwood to see what role the Cats have in mind for him, perhaps put him on your watchlist. I've changed my team a couple of hundred times already trying to find the right combination of players and it is currently different to anything I have put up as yet. But this is my midfield at this point in time :-

Danger,   Pendles,   Fyfe,   T Mitchell,   Beams,   S Selwood,   D Swallow,   D Myers,      //  S Pepper - Powell,   J Foote,   C Brown

cheers mate         ;)

First four are guns and I love the Mitchell pick. Beams I don't think will score enough to be a keeper as he has to manage himself for the rest of his carrer, Selwood is to be a risk for me and I don't think he will go over 90+ and therefore be a wasted pick (imo) Swallow I like however as he could average 100 and be a great stepping stone. Myers is a gun.

Agree on Beams although still see him as averaging 100 which means he makes us about 120k whilst scoring pretty well. If Scooter averages 90 he makes  approx 200k and has good JS. I'm going for money and security plus throw in a little wishful thinking on Beams who most will have anyway. Cheers mate.     :)

I think you are being a bit optimistic with those numbers, Beams would be around a 60k rise, SSelwood 160k

The magic number used during the year is considerably lower than the one used to calculate players starting prices.

Thanks for that Mr G I hadn't taken that into account. Back to the drawing board.           ;)

[Money Shot]

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Hi MS, like your second team. Personally don't see the advantage of weakening your midfield, as earlier suggested, to strengthen either your defence of forward line. Can't see who you'd bring in that would increase your scoring and money making ability to make it a viable proposition. I would suggest you keep an eye on Scooter Selwood to see what role the Cats have in mind for him, perhaps put him on your watchlist. I've changed my team a couple of hundred times already trying to find the right combination of players and it is currently different to anything I have put up as yet. But this is my midfield at this point in time :-

Danger,   Pendles,   Fyfe,   T Mitchell,   Beams,   S Selwood,   D Swallow,   D Myers,      //  S Pepper - Powell,   J Foote,   C Brown

cheers mate         ;)

First four are guns and I love the Mitchell pick. Beams I don't think will score enough to be a keeper as he has to manage himself for the rest of his carrer, Selwood is to be a risk for me and I don't think he will go over 90+ and therefore be a wasted pick (imo) Swallow I like however as he could average 100 and be a great stepping stone. Myers is a gun.

Agree on Beams although still see him as averaging 100 which means he makes us about 120k whilst scoring pretty well. If Scooter averages 90 he makes  approx 200k and has good JS. I'm going for money and security plus throw in a little wishful thinking on Beams who most will have anyway. Cheers mate.     :)

I think you are being a bit optimistic with those numbers, Beams would be around a 60k rise, SSelwood 160k

The magic number used during the year is considerably lower than the one used to calculate players starting prices.

Thanks for that Mr G I hadn't taken that into account. Back to the drawing board.           ;)

Think beams is a good choice still as there is a chance he could be a keeper.

[Money Shot]

Version 2.0

Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Hampton (Ryan, Witherden)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Petrevski-Seton, Meyers (Fisher, Graham, Scheer)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Bowes, Sympkin (Bolton, Drew)

Cash: $264,700

Watchlist: Hartlett, Swallow, O'meara, Ryder, Bennell

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Version 2.0

Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Hampton (Ryan, Witherden)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Petrevski-Seton, Meyers (Fisher, Graham, Scheer)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Bowes, Sympkin (Bolton, Drew)

Cash: $264,700

Watchlist: Hartlett, Swallow, O'meara, Ryder, Bennell

With that cash... You have plenty of the premium priced rookies, so when they do pop up you'll be able to afford them even without that cash in hand.
I reckon you go Bowes to Ryder, i personally think ryder can be a top 10 forward (92+ seems about par) and the bonus is the ruck coverage he gives you which is a worse case scenario if he doesn't end up 85+.

[Ringo]

Only change I would make and your team though is
Cameron to Strnadica (Great loophole option with the number of late games Dockers play compared to Sydney)
Bowes to Ryder or Nankervis for extra r/f cover. Agree with fast track on Ryder has averaged 90+ in 4 out of last 5 seasons played which you would take every time from your final F6/7

[quinny88]

Only change I would make and your team though is
Cameron to Strnadica (Great loophole option with the number of late games Dockers play compared to Sydney)
Bowes to Ryder or Nankervis for extra r/f cover. Agree with fast track on Ryder has averaged 100+ in 4 out of last 5 seasons played which you would take every time from your final F6/7

Ryder has only averaged 100+ twice in his career but has gone 90+ in 4 out of last 5 which is still decent. Would want 95+ from him to feel he's worth it but I think he should do that

[Money Shot]

Thanks guys! At this stage I'm watching Ryder very closely.

Hampton to Hartlett
Sympkin to Ryder/Bennell
SPS to Swallow/O'meara

They are the changes im considering. Watching Ryder, Hartlett, Bennell, Swallow and O'meara's pre season very closely.

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The Methamphetamen

Adams, Laird, McGrath, Scharenberg, Hampton, Berry (Ryan, Stewart)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Trealor, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Freeman, Graham)
Gawn, Goldstein (Strndica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Galluchi, Black, Pickett (Bolton, Eddy)

Cash: $2,000

Backline: I have chosen the two defenders that I think are most likely to be 1 and 2 come seasons end and then went for the more expensive rookie priced players purely because I think they have a stronger scoring capability than most of the 117k players that look like getting a go early.

Adams: He has averaged 97 for the past two seasons and at the age of 23 this could be his season to break out and become a 100+ player. Only concern is he has never played over 18 games in a season. However I along with many other people think this could be his year. Average wise he will be a top 6 defender with out a doubt as he will average 97+ and that is enough for me to confidently start him.

Laird: He has been gradually improving over the last two seasons and last season he went from a 92 to a 97 average. I don't see any reason why he can't improve his average by another 5 and become a top 6 defender. He has established himself as Adelaide's play maker out of the backline and they look to get the ball into his hands. He is 23 and heading into his prime. Worst case scenario is he only averages 95 or so but that's enough for me to start him confidently.

McGrath: Essendon and GWS both wanted him and rightly so, from all reports he is looking more composed than many of his team mates. He played footy last year when a lot of his team didn't so he should be more match ready then a lot of them. I believe he will rotate through the midfield heavily to give a lot of the returning midfielders a break as they increase there match fitness. I think he will have a 75+ average come seasons end which is very nice considering he is priced at a 39 average. (He averaged 145 super coach points at the TAC CUP)

Scharenberg: Collingwood see him as there play maker from across half back for the next 10 seasons and rightly so. When I have seen him play in the VFL he looks like he has so much time and space with ball in hand. I see Collingwood targeting him out of the backline which means he will rack up the possessions. At 160k he isn't really a risk and I see him averaging 70+ in that half back role.

Hampton: Surprised this guy isn't in everyone's side. He has been training with the midfield group at Adelaide and is priced at 160k. Has averaged 74 from 11 games in the past which is more than enough for someone at his prices. He is now 3 years older and looks like playing in a more super coach friendly role. I cant see why he wouldn't score 75+ again. I hope that people select Keefe over him so I am getting a nice 15 ppg advantage over them. LOCK HIM IN.

Berry: He is a natural leader (Captained Vic Country at the championships) and the lions need someone like him out on the field early in the season. He is a big bodied midfielder who can play as a running defender and that's exactly what I see him doing at Brisbane. He will start off at half back and rotate through the midfield accumulating possessions and therefore points. Bit more expensive than basement price rookies but he is worth the extra 20k in my opinion.

Ryan: He is 20 years of age and already has a big body which is always a good thing for supercoach. He prefers to kick than handball which is another positive in his game. He is 117k so cheap enough to start on your bench. Freo are lacking in tall defenders and I cant see why Ryan wont be named round 1.

Stewart: Another mature aged recruit (23) who from all reports killed it in Geelong's VFL side. If he did well enough in there VFL side to get drafted I cant see why he wont be around the mark come round one as geelongs backline is aging they might like to get some youth in there.

Midfield: Have got 7 midifelders who are all a real chance top be top 10 come seasons end. This is because I think many defenders will drop in price and I cant really predict who the top 10 forwards will be come seasons end. This is why I am stacking up in the midfield as you know what you will get.

Dangerfield: It confuses me as why people are considering leaving him out. He will play every week and is consistent as they get and he gives you a VC/C option every week. He is a player that is too risky to start with out. Just think, last season he started the year going 164, do you want to be missing out on 328 from round 1?

Pendlebury: He has been the most consistent player in supercoaches history and is my first selected player each year. He hasn't went under 116 since 2011. So worst case scenario he drops 5-10 points and goes 110 and is still a top 10 mid. Best case scenario you have a 120+ mid who very rarely scores below 100. Only went below 100 4/23 games last year.

Trealor: Scored over 100 for the first time last season at a new club. He is turning 24 in a month and is heading into his prime so there is no reason why his average wont increase again and even if it doesn't he will score 110 and be a top 10 mid. Now that he is at Collingwood he will only improve as he doesn't have as many up and coming players to compete with.

Rockliff: People seem to be forgetting that in 2014 he averaged 132 from 18 games. I know that it was 3 seasons ago now but I cant see why he couldn't score go 120+ this season. According to the guys at Brisbane he is looking as fit as they have ever seen him and he certainly has a point to prove this season. I like how he is a slight pod in my side with under 10% of the comp owning him at this stage. Worst case scenario he gets injured and I have to trade him to someone like Kennedy from Sydney. He is a risk I'm willing to take.

Sloane: Hasn't went below 105 since 2012 and now that he is in his prime I cant see any reason why he would. He showed us last season that he can score well with Danger scoring 108 and I think with a young and improving midfield around him he can reach 110 as he wont have to worry about teams targeting him. He is just so consistent and with guys like Fyfe and Rocky in my team he is someone I can count on being there come round 23.

Bontempelli: I'm shocked that his ownership is so high at this stage in the season and I was hoping that he would be around 10% rather than around 50%. However he is one of my favorite players to watch and people seem to forget that he has only just turned 21. He has still got another few years to improve before he even hits his prime. His average will only increase this season and that is enough to convince me to start him. BTW I am aware that he will lose points from the third man up being abolished but I just think he will get another hard ball get/clearance from it so I'm not too fussed.

Fyfe: He scored 120+ the two seasons before last and I don't see why he cant go back to those averages again. He is underpriced due to injuries last season and again I think he is too much of a risk to start without. If you don't start him and he starts the first 5 rounds going 120+ It will be very hard to get him in when you need him later in the season. He is injury prone obviouslt but I see it as a risk not to start him.

Powell-Pepper: I was hoping he would slip to Carltons second round pick to be honest as he has the body to play round one. He butchers the ball a bit which isn't good for supercoach but he is a tackling machine who can kick goals which should be enough to get him to 70 supercoach points most games which is more than enough for a 135k rookie. He did average 120 points in the WAFL colts which is encouraging.

Myers: Hasn't played footy in two years pretty much which is a bit concerning but he is only 27 years of age so he has plenty left in the tank. 3 years ago he managed to average 85 and all we want from him is 70+ he is a pretty safe bet to get that I would think. At 130k everyone should have him.

Freeman: When he was drafted he was meant to be one of the best players in the draft, unfortunately injuries have held him back. He is a few years older and bigger now which means he should slot into the AFL comfortably all we need is him to stay fit. At 123k I see a 70 average extremely possible so I am happy with him starting at M10.

Graham: A ready made inside midfielder who will be lining up round one for the tigers. I predicted him going at about pick 30 and the fact that he slipped all the way to the tiges at 53 is good as now he is only 117k. He was a former South Australian U18's captain and Richmond would love his leadership in the middle of the ground. Again I don't see why he cant muster up 70+ points most games.

Rucks: Set and Forget can't be stuffed messing around with Sandi and wasting trades if and when he gets injured.

Gawn: The thing that I like about Gawn is that he is only 25 so he still has plenty of years left where he will be at his 'prime'. He has such a huge ceiling with 6 games over 150 last season. He is too big a risk not too start with for me as if he hits 150 a few times in the first few weeks whoever doesn't have him will be behind the pack who does. That's why I'm paying the big bucks for him now.

Goldy: You could argue that he is underpriced due to injury and the fact that he had a bad year and averaged 108 astonishes me. I don't think that he can go back to a 128 average due to the lack of talented midfielders at North but I can see a 110-115 average which should be enough to be a top 2 ruck come seasons end.

Forwards: Dahl and Macrae are locks as you know what you are going to get with them and they will no doubt be top 10 forwards, they are the only two I can confidently say will average 95+. Apart from that I am struggling to pick the others so I have decided to load up on rookies and see what forwards are performing later in the season.

Dahlhous: He is 24 years of age and heading into his prime. Two seasons ago now he averaged 105 but dropped back to a 95 average this season. I put this down to a much stronger bulldogs side with more points to be shared around as well as having a 27 in round 12 where he got injured. Anyways I cant see him going below 95 and if he averages 95 that should be enough to be a top 10 forward with the lack of options this year.

Macrae: This guy is only 22 years of age so he is still improving each and every season, the two years before last he averaged 100 and dropped 5 ppg to 95 this season. I think this is because of so many bulldogs improving that they had to share the points around. So similar to Dahl I think that worst case is he averages 95 and is a top 10 forward.

McCluggage: A goal kicking midfielder is what the lions need and they got that with McCluggage. From all reports he already looks a class above most of his team mates and I think he could easily average 75+. What more could you want from a 200k forward. He is a real chance to be in the centre of the ground come round one and this is why he is locked in mine and many other teams.

Galluchi: I went to primary school with him and even then you knew that he was going to play AFL one day. So I may be a bit biased here but my thinking is that Adelaide really wanted Gibbs and Galluchi plays very similar to him. They lost Lyons to the Gold Coast which means there is a spot vacant for him to slip right into. Heres hoping he is named round 1.

Black: I think people forget that only a few years ago he averaged 77. The only reason he didn't get games at north was because they recruited Waite and Brown emerged. At a new club that is in need of someone to help Hawkins I cant see why he couldn't go 70+ again. My dad is a huge north fan and he always rated him so I am confident in him at this stage.

Pickett: People seem to forget that this guy was pick number 4 in the national draft a couple of years ago, so clearly he has talent. North need a forward pocket like Pickett and I think he will be named round one. Only thing is I don't think he will score very well or consistently but I think we can expect a 65-70 average from him which isn't bad for a 123k player as it will still make some money.

Bolton: He is everything you want in a small forward, he is super quick (possibly quickest at the club) and has a good game sense about him. He has impressed early and doing everything he can to push for a round one selection. Only concern is his scoring ability as small forwards usually struggle to score well. I see a 65-70 average occurring which is enough considering he is basement price.

Eddy: Probably the biggest lock in my side at the moment for a below 500k player. He was the top goal score in the SAFL last season and he is the perfect person to replace Schulz. He is 27 years of age so they have obviously recruited him to play. Again I think an average around 70 is possible if he does infact take Schulz's side in the team.

[shaker]

All good on paper but the chance of 8 cheapies playing in your fwd's and backs every week and scoring good well that will kill your loaded mids and gun rucks

[Ringo]

As Brisbane supporter MS not a 100% certain the McCluggage will start Rd 1. hard to break into a midfield of Rocky, Beams, Matthieson, Zorko, Robbo, Rich, Keays. Depends on Fagan as to how he uses Rich and who replaces Hanley.  Liam Dawson also waiting in the wings. 

[shaker]

All good on paper but the chance of 8 cheapies playing in your fwd's and backs every week and scoring good well that will kill your loaded mids and gun rucks

I think that McCluggage and McGrath don't really count as they are clearly best 22.

So it's only 5 each line and I think that both defence and forwards will have a plethora rookies so I'm confident.

They are still newbies so don't bet on it every year people include all the sure things saying they will play round 1 and every year it never happens , a few will play most won't  ;)