Which Rucks?

[Torpedo10]

Ive decided to back in Sandi and Witts with Nank as cover, no matter what happens.

A lot will do the same. Gives ppl a good chance to let the dust settle a bit and pick up the top 2 rucks

Yep, top 2 rucks are up in the open this year. Could be Gawn & Goldy but could also be Martin, Hickey or Grundy. History tells you the rucks are the hardest to predict.

Lmao you're absolutely kidding yourself if you don't think Goldy + Gawn will be top the two

Whilst it looks most probable, looking at past seasons it tends to fluctuate quite significantly.

I'm really intrigued to see how Gawn goes TBH. Been massively hyped, still has beard but can he improve?

[meow meow]

Toying with the idea of picking 2 rucks (Gold + Vardy), having a DPP rookie and having Boyd, Nank, Ryder (and McKernan) up forward. Probably still cop a doughnut in the ruck somehow.

[RaisyDaisy]

Toying with the idea of picking 2 rucks (Gold + Vardy), having a DPP rookie and having Boyd, Nank, Ryder (and McKernan) up forward. Probably still cop a doughnut in the ruck somehow.

LMAO! Classic meow!

[Judd Magic]

Toying with the idea of picking 2 rucks (Gold + Vardy), having a DPP rookie and having Boyd, Nank, Ryder (and McKernan) up forward. Probably still cop a doughnut in the ruck somehow.

McKernan is only a forward this year though.  :-X

[Holz]

And Petrie has been officially upgraded

http://m.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2017-03-21/petire-upgraded-with-debut-looming

Cant wait for goldy to put 200 points up on him round 1

Don't think that's possible. North will still lose. They also don't have the crumbers to make hay. No Wells, Dal Santo, Harvey & Cunnington at the drop will make things difficult. West Coast also have Sam Mitchell who has spent his whole career roving to inadequate rucks. I expect a 110-125 score from Goldy but his record in losses isn't that great.

Do you by chance have Goldy's ave score in loses for last year and the year before?

I understand your concerns but as a north supporter im sick of telling people that harvey hasnt played in the mid field in years and his absence will be irrelevant to goldies output and dal santo spent most of his time on the outside last year.
Edit: also Wells wasnt there during goldys best years due to injury so im sure the big man still has the capacity to score big regardless of who hes tapping to

I think his average was somewhere around 98-102 in losses last year

HOTA rely on a chain of possessions, for example Goldy taps to Cunnington who then passes to Dal Santo. If Goldy taps to Cunnington who is then tackled or turns it over then it is not registered as a hit out to advantage. Therefore outside players are very important.

Surely if the ruckmen taps the ball to his player and that players launches the ball into the forward line that is a HOTA ? I understand the player he is hitting the ball to can't totally spud it up but a chain of possies is needed to get a HOTA don't think that is correct

That was my understanding too.

"Taking this one step further, a ruckman’s hitout-to-advantage rate is of utmost importance in SuperCoach. That is, a hitout that reaches an intended teammate." from supercoach

Sharked hitout "A hitout that directly results in an opponent’s possession isn’t ideal, with the net result being -1 SuperCoach point."

From that i take if you hit the ball to a player and they get a possesion then it is a HTA. whether it be a effective, ineffective or even a clanger possesion.

For that reason Goldy should be fine as Cunners JZ Swallow where his 3 main guys and while wells outr hurts abit others will fill the void.

[Bully]

And Petrie has been officially upgraded

http://m.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2017-03-21/petire-upgraded-with-debut-looming

Cant wait for goldy to put 200 points up on him round 1

Don't think that's possible. North will still lose. They also don't have the crumbers to make hay. No Wells, Dal Santo, Harvey & Cunnington at the drop will make things difficult. West Coast also have Sam Mitchell who has spent his whole career roving to inadequate rucks. I expect a 110-125 score from Goldy but his record in losses isn't that great.

Do you by chance have Goldy's ave score in loses for last year and the year before?

I understand your concerns but as a north supporter im sick of telling people that harvey hasnt played in the mid field in years and his absence will be irrelevant to goldies output and dal santo spent most of his time on the outside last year.
Edit: also Wells wasnt there during goldys best years due to injury so im sure the big man still has the capacity to score big regardless of who hes tapping to

I think his average was somewhere around 98-102 in losses last year

HOTA rely on a chain of possessions, for example Goldy taps to Cunnington who then passes to Dal Santo. If Goldy taps to Cunnington who is then tackled or turns it over then it is not registered as a hit out to advantage. Therefore outside players are very important.

Surely if the ruckmen taps the ball to his player and that players launches the ball into the forward line that is a HOTA ? I understand the player he is hitting the ball to can't totally spud it up but a chain of possies is needed to get a HOTA don't think that is correct

That was my understanding too.

"Taking this one step further, a ruckman’s hitout-to-advantage rate is of utmost importance in SuperCoach. That is, a hitout that reaches an intended teammate." from supercoach

Sharked hitout "A hitout that directly results in an opponent’s possession isn’t ideal, with the net result being -1 SuperCoach point."

From that i take if you hit the ball to a player and they get a possesion then it is a HTA. whether it be a effective, ineffective or even a clanger possesion.

For that reason Goldy should be fine as Cunners JZ Swallow where his 3 main guys and while wells outr hurts abit others will fill the void.

Pretty sure the definition is effective possession, otherwise it's hardly advantageous.

[eaglesman]

Back to sandiwitts haha

[tkringle]

Preuss named  >:(

[Jackross10]

Preuss named  >:(

spanner in the works

[tkringle]

Back to sandiwitts haha

Seriously thinking the same now, might leave a bit of cash in the kitty to facilitate an early upgrade through!

[Holz]

fantastic preuss named. Now Goldy is more unique.

geez im tempted to have preuss R3 and drop Nank though.

[Huttabito]

Back to sandiwitts haha

Never left the station!

[Bully]

The Preuss factor, the loss factor, the knee factor, the weak midfield factor. Good luck with that.

[tkringle]

fantastic preuss named. Now Goldy is more unique.

geez im tempted to have preuss R3 and drop Nank though.

Your seeing Goldie still scoring 120 with Preuss in the side Holz?

[quinny88]

Back to Gawn for now. spencer gets named and I'm rolling with SandiWitts