Which Rucks?

[Bully]

Im just loving that Grundy is still looking strong and an extremely low risk option @ 8.3% at the moment.
In the first 7 rounds of the 2017 season the Grundylicious man DOES NOT compete against:
Gawn, Goldy, Stefan Martin, Sandy, WCE/Vardy OR Mummy.
Confident he'll get off to a flyer. Grundy also Averages 18 possies a game, higher than any other ruckman.

vs Dogs, Boyd/Campbell
vs Rich, Nank
vs Syd, Tippet
vs Saints, Hickey
vs Dons, Bellchambers
vs Cats, Stanley/Zac smith
vs Blues, Kreuzer

Dont have Witts as he's a spud and will get 40's. Have Taranto F6 who'll average alot more.

If you pick Grundy it doesn't matter when he plays Gawn etc, he will play them eventually. I'd also have a bet that Stefan Martin averages more possessions than Grundy.

[petefisker]

Nah Stef is 2nd bud.
Grundy Total 387 disposals, Average 18.4
Stef Martin 335 disposals, Average 16.8

[Bully]

Nah Stef is 2nd bud.
Grundy Total 387 disposals, Average 18.4
Stef Martin 335 disposals, Average 16.8

Stef had a poor year last year, came off averaging 21.6 touches in 2015 & 22.4 in 2014. He was also affected by the knock he received early in the year. If you want sheer weight of possessions then he's your man. Will probably average the same in hit outs.

[petefisker]

Nah Stef is 2nd bud.
Grundy Total 387 disposals, Average 18.4
Stef Martin 335 disposals, Average 16.8

Stef had a poor year last year, came off averaging 21.6 touches in 2015 & 22.4 in 2014. He was also affected by the knock he received early in the year. If you want sheer weight of possessions then he's your man. Will probably average the same in hit outs.

Yeh for sure, is the main reason folk are steering clear of Stef at the moment Archie Smith impact and another bloke?

[Bully]

Nah Stef is 2nd bud.
Grundy Total 387 disposals, Average 18.4
Stef Martin 335 disposals, Average 16.8

Stef had a poor year last year, came off averaging 21.6 touches in 2015 & 22.4 in 2014. He was also affected by the knock he received early in the year. If you want sheer weight of possessions then he's your man. Will probably average the same in hit outs.

Yeh for sure, is the main reason folk are steering clear of Stef at the moment Archie Smith impact and another bloke?

Archie is the worry but wasn't onfield in JLT 3, I reckon that will be the round 1 prognosis. I think Grundy is the safest to have the ruck to himself but won't have the upside of the others. So it becomes a question risk versus upside, 100 versus 110+.

[crowls]

Do like Stef,  kept him all of last year.   Q this year is Fagan and hawks history of ruck management.   Fagan knows , we know, hell everybody knows Stef plays better as solo ruck.,     Just not sure Fagan has left hawks structure behind

[RaisyDaisy]

Sick to death of this. Still cannot decide what ruck I want to couple with Sandi, and that is stopping me from completing the rest of my time

Goldy, Nank or Witts are the options. Stef a possibility too

Doing my absolute head in!

[crowls]

Sick to death of this. Still cannot decide what ruck I want to couple with Sandi, and that is stopping me from completing the rest of my time

Goldy, Nank or Witts are the options. Stef a possibility too

Doing my absolute head in!

Good see you are a normal footyfan and cannot rationalise everything RD.    Can put forward a valid narrative for each of them.  has to come down to probability assessment.  What is the most probable outcome for each scenario.   What is the most probable worst result.  What is the most probable best result.   Then risk manage.      Finally throw it all out the door and go with your gut.    ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Bully]

Sick to death of this. Still cannot decide what ruck I want to couple with Sandi, and that is stopping me from completing the rest of my time

Goldy, Nank or Witts are the options. Stef a possibility too

Doing my absolute head in!

Good see you are a normal footyfan and cannot rationalise everything RD.    Can put forward a valid narrative for each of them.  has to come down to probability assessment.  What is the most probable outcome for each scenario.   What is the most probable worst result.  What is the most probable best result.   Then risk manage.      Finally throw it all out the door and go with your gut.    ;D ;D ;D ;D

That's why Witts is so attractive, he's kind of the wait and see option. With all this confusion I can see that there will be winners and losers in the ruck division. It will be the barometer for success or failure this year. The first guy I picked at the start of the year was Gawn and I haven't changed my view that he will be the best option when things settle down. But I'm also confident he will drop in price if playing with Spencer. If the difference between Gawn & Witts can be reigned in by 250k then that's a big win in my opinion.

[Judd Magic]

Sick to death of this. Still cannot decide what ruck I want to couple with Sandi, and that is stopping me from completing the rest of my time

Goldy, Nank or Witts are the options. Stef a possibility too

Doing my absolute head in!

Good see you are a normal footyfan and cannot rationalise everything RD.    Can put forward a valid narrative for each of them.  has to come down to probability assessment.  What is the most probable outcome for each scenario.   What is the most probable worst result.  What is the most probable best result.   Then risk manage.      Finally throw it all out the door and go with your gut.    ;D ;D ;D ;D

That's why Witts is so attractive, he's kind of the wait and see option. With all this confusion I can see that there will be winners and losers in the ruck division. It will be the barometer for success or failure this year. The first guy I picked at the start of the year was Gawn and I haven't changed my view that he will be the best option when things settle down. But I'm also confident he will drop in price if playing with Spencer. If the difference between Gawn & Witts can be reigned in by 250k then that's a big win in my opinion.

Yeah no way am I flowering starting Gawn, he's too expensive.

I'll pick him up as an upgrade later for Sandi.

I'm going to go Goldy an Sandi at R1 and R2 and Nank at F4 (spud Freo rookie ruck at R3)

Will consider replacing Goldy with Witts and upgrading my F6 (Taranto) to Ryder so I have both Nank and Ryder up forward should Witts go pear shaped!

[crowls]

Sick to death of this. Still cannot decide what ruck I want to couple with Sandi, and that is stopping me from completing the rest of my time

Goldy, Nank or Witts are the options. Stef a possibility too

Doing my absolute head in!

Good see you are a normal footyfan and cannot rationalise everything RD.    Can put forward a valid narrative for each of them.  has to come down to probability assessment.  What is the most probable outcome for each scenario.   What is the most probable worst result.  What is the most probable best result.   Then risk manage.      Finally throw it all out the door and go with your gut.    ;D ;D ;D ;D

That's why Witts is so attractive, he's kind of the wait and see option. With all this confusion I can see that there will be winners and losers in the ruck division. It will be the barometer for success or failure this year. The first guy I picked at the start of the year was Gawn and I haven't changed my view that he will be the best option when things settle down. But I'm also confident he will drop in price if playing with Spencer. If the difference between Gawn & Witts can be reigned in by 250k then that's a big win in my opinion.

Yeah no way am I flowering starting Gawn, he's too expensive.

I'll pick him up as an upgrade later for Sandi.

I'm going to go Goldy an Sandi at R1 and R2 and Nank at F4 (spud Freo rookie ruck at R3)

Will consider replacing Goldy with Witts and upgrading my F6 (Taranto) to Ryder so I have both Nank and Ryder up forward should Witts go pear shaped!

sames as my fallback plan but changed ryder for caddy cause rd9 byes

[MontyJnr]

Sick to death of this. Still cannot decide what ruck I want to couple with Sandi, and that is stopping me from completing the rest of my time

Goldy, Nank or Witts are the options. Stef a possibility too

Doing my absolute head in!

I'm quite relaxed about rucks actually.

The scoring and value potential of Sandi is too much to pass up, so he is a lock. Given the injury risk of Sandi, solo-rucking Nankervis is basically the other part of a 2 package deal with Sandi to provide insurance in case he goes down. So Nank is a lock up Forward with a rookie R/F player at R3 to provide the link.

Then it comes down to Goldy or Witts for the other starting ruck spot, which no-one can really make a definitive decision on until teams are released.

If Preuss is named, I pick Witts.
If Preuss is not named, I pick Goldstein.

I have worked out 2 different teams I'm happy with depending on which ruck I need to go with, so patience for team selection is all that is needed right now :)

[RaisyDaisy]

Sick to death of this. Still cannot decide what ruck I want to couple with Sandi, and that is stopping me from completing the rest of my time

Goldy, Nank or Witts are the options. Stef a possibility too

Doing my absolute head in!

I'm quite relaxed about rucks actually.

The scoring and value potential of Sandi is too much to pass up, so he is a lock. Given the injury risk of Sandi, solo-rucking Nankervis is basically the other part of a 2 package deal with Sandi to provide insurance in case he goes down. So Nank is a lock up Forward with a rookie R/F player at R3 to provide the link.

Then it comes down to Goldy or Witts for the other starting ruck spot, which no-one can really make a definitive decision on until teams are released.

If Preuss is named, I pick Witts.
If Preuss is not named, I pick Goldstein.

I have worked out 2 different teams I'm happy with depending on which ruck I need to go with, so patience for team selection is all that is needed right now :)

Yeah I think I'm sorted in the rucks now too

Nank and Sandi with Ryder at F3

Can completely understand the appeal of Witts and how easy it is to replace him if it doesn't work, but I've decided against it (for now lol)

[Cookie Monster]

I'm settled with Hickey and Sandilands. Hickey should be the lone ruckman this year.

[LordSneeze]

Im taking the option of

Goldy (If pruess not named, Witts if he is)