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Started by RaisyDaisy, December 12, 2016, 12:27:07 AM

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Bully

Quote from: My Chumps on March 15, 2017, 07:09:28 PM
Has anyone else been considering the potential effect of the no third man up rule?

Without doing any research into the numbers, I would imagine teams would be going third man up very often against the best rucks of the comp. Especially against Goldy after his godlike season in 2015. Hit outs to advantage should come easier and more often this year, meaning there's definite scope for improvement amongst even the priciest rucks. I'm tempted to go Goldy + Gawn but Sandi should dominate for the same reason. 211 with no third man up is a beautiful prospect. Goldy + Gawn have a similar ceiling IMO so I'll take the cheaper option.

Goldy - Sandi - (Cameron/Strnadica)

I'm also now actually considering squeezing in Nank over Roughead.

Fair point, that's why Witts also has big upside, 209cm with no distractions. Curious to see how this affects guys like Bont as well.

My Chumps


Blues Blues Blues

Quote from: Bully on March 15, 2017, 07:39:14 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on March 15, 2017, 07:09:28 PM
Has anyone else been considering the potential effect of the no third man up rule?

Without doing any research into the numbers, I would imagine teams would be going third man up very often against the best rucks of the comp. Especially against Goldy after his godlike season in 2015. Hit outs to advantage should come easier and more often this year, meaning there's definite scope for improvement amongst even the priciest rucks. I'm tempted to go Goldy + Gawn but Sandi should dominate for the same reason. 211 with no third man up is a beautiful prospect. Goldy + Gawn have a similar ceiling IMO so I'll take the cheaper option.

Goldy - Sandi - (Cameron/Strnadica)

I'm also now actually considering squeezing in Nank over Roughead.

Fair point, that's why Witts also has big upside, 209cm with no distractions. Curious to see how this affects guys like Bont as well.

Agree - wondering if Bonts score may suffer

crowls

Bont is a star soon to be a superstar.  However change in rules for 3rd man, still young so I expect he will repeat last year given drop in points from 3rd man balanced against natural improvement.


Not in my starting or planned finishing mids.    I am going all superprem and proven prems,   

Bully

Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on March 15, 2017, 09:12:02 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 15, 2017, 07:39:14 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on March 15, 2017, 07:09:28 PM
Has anyone else been considering the potential effect of the no third man up rule?

Without doing any research into the numbers, I would imagine teams would be going third man up very often against the best rucks of the comp. Especially against Goldy after his godlike season in 2015. Hit outs to advantage should come easier and more often this year, meaning there's definite scope for improvement amongst even the priciest rucks. I'm tempted to go Goldy + Gawn but Sandi should dominate for the same reason. 211 with no third man up is a beautiful prospect. Goldy + Gawn have a similar ceiling IMO so I'll take the cheaper option.

Goldy - Sandi - (Cameron/Strnadica)

I'm also now actually considering squeezing in Nank over Roughead.

Fair point, that's why Witts also has big upside, 209cm with no distractions. Curious to see how this affects guys like Bont as well.

Agree - wondering if Bonts score may suffer

I did the sums and he'll lose 6 points a game, but that should be counterbalanced by being at more contests and winning more contested ball. Still, it's probably one of those situations that makes you think twice about picking him.

frenzy

Anyone mentioned Sauce Jacobs, haven't seen him in many teams. Sole ruckman atleast.

Roger Federer

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2017, 03:15:41 PM
I know it's not right and always magnifies things, but if you take out the 2 170+ scores from Goldy last year, he then averaged 101 over the other 19 games

Can't just ignore them because he did score those 170's, but still - 101 over 19 and the better player they had, isn't great. I know his knee was sore but still

I've pretty much completely ruled out Gawn and Goldy (Amazing because 2+ weeks ago at least one was a lock) but with so much mid priced and crap fwd rookie options value coming in I think it's best to wait and see with those two and spread the cash over both fwd and ruc

Yeah its a bloody scary thought going without Goldy and Gawn to start with but Im gonna do it.  So many rucks affected by sharing duties and have a feeling Nank is gonna get 80-100's.

Sandi and Nank starting for me with a view to either upgrading or moving nank into the fwd line for the next strongest ruckman.

meow meow

There was an article on the AFL site about Krooze so I'm on him now.

Gigantor

Quote from: meow meow on March 16, 2017, 07:46:04 PM
There was an article on the AFL site about Krooze so I'm on him now.


Mat0369

Quote from: meow meow on March 16, 2017, 07:46:04 PM
There was an article on the AFL site about Krooze so I'm on him now.

He's going to have to ruck solo with Levi spelling him since Sauce is injured. The funny thing with Kreuz is he played the most games he had in a while last year, however he was carrying an injury after the Cats game and wasn't really right.

The Geelong game he played a ripper and kicked the winner from memory. It was also the only time he rucked on his own for the season. If Sandi wasn't cheaper he's the mid price guy I'd be picking. If he doesn't get injured by the time Phillips gets back he would be nicely priced to trade to the best performing ruck.

john23132

"Viney says he thinks Gawn and Jake Spencer will both play Round 1" Bye bye Gawn hello Grundy.

hawkers65

Yep saw that too ! Nankilands will be it for me. Gawn is the only one i fancied tbh but with spencer there nah no way. When spencer gets dropped later on it could be time to go Nank to Gawn after cash has been made and gawn dropped

meow meow

Nab cup means nothing folks. Stars coast through it and then remind everyone how good they are when the real stuff starts.

Todd should be in your team. You'll regret not picking him, guaranteed!

LordSneeze

Quote from: meow meow on March 17, 2017, 02:38:20 AM
Nab cup means nothing folks. Stars coast through it and then remind everyone how good they are when the real stuff starts.

Todd should be in your team. You'll regret not picking him, guaranteed!

Plus people forget they are shorter quarters so high point scoring items overstate players (Goals etc). Most of the breakout players perform well over a shorter game, but struggle to keep up the intensity for a full AFL game.

Colley Dogs

Quote from: john23132 on March 16, 2017, 09:53:01 PM
"Viney says he thinks Gawn and Jake Spencer will both play Round 1" Bye bye Gawn hello Grundy.

For those thinking about Sandilands - Witts & Nanks (F)

... would you also consider:

Sandilands - Spencer & Nanks (F)