Which Rucks?

[Keeper27]

Goldy or Gawn, i dont really like any other @ R1 with sandi @ R2
Most people think they'll both lose money with possible shared duties.

[_wato]

Gawn from last year
Saints - 92
Pies - 105, 119
Dogs - 49
Blues - 111

Average of 95

[RaisyDaisy]

I know it's not right and always magnifies things, but if you take out the 2 170+ scores from Goldy last year, he then averaged 101 over the other 19 games

Can't just ignore them because he did score those 170's, but still - 101 over 19 and the better player they had, isn't great. I know his knee was sore but still

I've pretty much completely ruled out Gawn and Goldy (Amazing because 2+ weeks ago at least one was a lock) but with so much mid priced and crap fwd rookie options value coming in I think it's best to wait and see with those two and spread the cash over both fwd and ruc

[Holz]

I know it's not right and always magnifies things, but if you take out the 2 170+ scores from Goldy last year, he then averaged 101 over the other 19 games

Can't just ignore them because he did score those 170's, but still - 101 over 19 and the better player they had, isn't great. I know his knee was sore but still

yeah the big scores pull up his average,

but look what happens if you take his scores up till round 9 (got injured round 10) and remove the round 6 game where he got a few knocks and wasn't able to do much around the ground.

128 average

Thats pretty scary.

He did go 107 in the last 6 weeks too so was starting to get back into it.

[elephants]

If you remove every game except the game he scored 173 he actually averaged 173!

He's so under-priced based on this!

[Jukes]

If you remove every game except the game he scored 173 he actually averaged 173!

He's so under-priced based on this!

BUT

If you remove every game except the game he scored 49 he actually averaged 49!

Avoid this 49-plagued spud as much as you can - if he averages a point over 49 I'd be very surprised.

[shaker]

If you remove every game except the game he scored 173 he actually averaged 173!

He's so under-priced based on this!

BUT

If you remove every game except the game he scored 49 he actually averaged 49!

Avoid this 49-plagued spud as much as you can - if he averages a point over 49 I'd be very surprised.

But if you remove every game he averaged 0

that's pretty poor for 580+K

[Bully]

Toying around with Witts

Bully, I think you did some analysis previously but if we assume he just needs to play the first 9 rounds his opponents will be

Stef
Mummy
Big Boy
Kreuz
Sauce
Goldy
Smith/Stanley
Ryder

All things considered, I think I might stick to my initial thoughts and pass on Witts

Can def understand the selection and others picking him, but his JS is questionable and I just don't think he will pay off in those short 9 rounds

Could be proven wrong, but that's the game

Here's some comments re. Witts (Inside Football)

vs Martin (2014) Battled away but no match for Martin around the ground.   SC=70
vs Mummy (2014) Did some good work in the ruck against Mumford. Developing slowly. SC=72
               (2015) Big effort one-out in ruck against Mumford. Might have just taken points. SC=71
vs Hale/Ceglar (2015)  Had main ruck role and won tap count. SC=81
vs Kreuzer (2013) Kicked 2.2 and was handy in the ruck. Best game for the Pies. SC=69
Note: Kreuzer injured 2014
vs Warnock (2014) Useful input in attack and on the ball. SC=103
               (2014) Huge. Had seven hit-outs to advantage to go with three inside-50s and a goal. SC=135
vs Jacobs (2013) Led well early and looked dangerous in first term then influence diminished. SC=83
              (2014) Beaten by Jacobs in the end but didn’t give up his wicket easily. SC=88
Note: (2014) Round 9 played forward and was subbed out SC=46
vs Goldstein (2015) 21 hitouts and a goal playing as second ruck and forward. Fair. SC=73
Note: (2014) Round 4 Couple of moments up forward but didn’t hit the scoreboard. Subbed out. SC=32
vs Smith (2014) Dominated the hit-out count and serviceable around the ground. SC=97
vs Ryder (2014) Halved hit-outs with Ryder but no influence around ground. SC=47
             (2014) Grabbed a few second-half disposals and offered support in ruck. SC=70
             (2015) Impressive in tough conditions for ruckmen. SC=63

[Money Shot]

This time two weeks ago I had Goldy/Gawn locked in now I have Nankilands :)

Going with Spencer (if named) and Witts for AFL Fantasy because rucks aren't as important there.

[Bully]

Just taking the stats above, Witts has an average of 76 against his opponents leading up to the bye. All things remaining equal his price at the end of round 8 would be 340k. Also bear in mind that he was sharing ruck duties with Grundy in half of those matches. With some natural improvement factored into the equation & sole ruck duties I think he can nudge 80, that would push his price to 360k+. I think for a rookie this would be a solid return.

[RaisyDaisy]

Pretty much sums it up

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-news/supercoach-2017-how-much-does-sharing-the-ruck-impact-premium-scores/news-story/2f2b45231733a946297ee38ec6682926

[shaker]

That's it I'm not having any rucks.

[Bully]

Pretty much sums it up

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-news/supercoach-2017-how-much-does-sharing-the-ruck-impact-premium-scores/news-story/2f2b45231733a946297ee38ec6682926

Might need to summarise the main points, paywalled.

[RaisyDaisy]

Pretty much sums it up

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-news/supercoach-2017-how-much-does-sharing-the-ruck-impact-premium-scores/news-story/2f2b45231733a946297ee38ec6682926

Might need to summarise the main points, paywalled.

Basically just giving the numbers on how the best rucks score better when solo, so if Spencer and Preuss/Daw play you can expect a drop, and Stef goes well without Archie etc

[Nige]

That's why you gotta get on Grundy and Nank!