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Ringo

Quote from: dicko_ on March 04, 2017, 10:52:37 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 04, 2017, 06:04:18 PM
211 ownership to double ?

Not sure that will be the case. Most of the issues I see people having with him relate to durability rather than scoring, which this score does nothing to alleviate.
Beg to differ slightly I my case it was is his scoring potential 105+.  He is priced at just over 72 so with playing 6 of first 9 games in Perth and he can average that 105 should see his price rise nicely enabling a trade to best performing Ruck after Gawn or keep till he goes down. Think quite a few people are adopting that policy.

eaglesman

Quote from: dicko_ on March 04, 2017, 10:52:37 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 04, 2017, 06:04:18 PM
211 ownership to double ?

Not sure that will be the case. Most of the issues I see people having with him relate to durability rather than scoring, which this score does nothing to alleviate.

Hope you are right. The more people that don't start him the better.

eaglesman

Quote from: Ringo on March 04, 2017, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: dicko_ on March 04, 2017, 10:52:37 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 04, 2017, 06:04:18 PM
211 ownership to double ?

Not sure that will be the case. Most of the issues I see people having with him relate to durability rather than scoring, which this score does nothing to alleviate.
Beg to differ slightly I my case it was is his scoring potential 105+.  He is priced at just over 72 so with playing 6 of first 9 games in Perth and he can average that 105 should see his price rise nicely enabling a trade to best performing Ruck after Gawn or keep till he goes down. Think quite a few people are adopting that policy.

I never remotely had a worry about his scoring potential.
If the bloke played a full game today and scored 30 I would of picked him.
All I wanted was to see him play decent minutes.

Probably the biggest(literally) must have of the season now.

GCSkiwi

Quote from: Ringo on March 04, 2017, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: dicko_ on March 04, 2017, 10:52:37 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 04, 2017, 06:04:18 PM
211 ownership to double ?

Not sure that will be the case. Most of the issues I see people having with him relate to durability rather than scoring, which this score does nothing to alleviate.
Beg to differ slightly I my case it was is his scoring potential 105+.  He is priced at just over 72 so with playing 6 of first 9 games in Perth and he can average that 105 should see his price rise nicely enabling a trade to best performing Ruck after Gawn or keep till he goes down. Think quite a few people are adopting that policy.

Exactly what I'm doing. All I wanna say is look at 2014/2015. Everyone questioned Sandi's durability after the great turf toe of 2011-13. Those were two seasons of 21 games, averaging 108 both years, on the back of a long running injury which hasn't recurred since they figured out how to manage/treat it properly. Durability? Check. Scoring? Check.

Last season NicNat broke his ribs and punctured a lung... That's not like it's a result of poor conditioning and has a high probability of recurring. Then when he came back late in the year, Fyfe is gone, there's no-one doing much because Freo's cooked by then. Write off the entire of last season. Then he missed the start of JLT because of a calf injury

I don't understand most of the chatter about lack of durability on here. Someone who repeatedly gets the same injury, sure. Turf toe Sandi lacked durability. Shaun -"has anyone seen my hammies"- Higgins lacked durability. Anthony -"can we put in a coupla spare ACLs?"- Morabito lacked durability. 300k Sandi is a steal for what he can do on the scoreboard, and if he plays every game and averages 117 up to his bye (which he did in 2014) then you're laughing.

Ingram

I feel for me personally risking Sandi is OK for me because I have decent ruck backups with Preuss and Cameron.

crowls


shower,   what will be the impact of this on Gawns SC output.    Giving me thought about a Goldy start and pickup Gawn mid season.





QuoteMAX Gawn has revealed he may play as much time forward as he does in the ruck this season.[/font][/size]Gawn, 25, enjoyed his breakout season last year, winning All-Australian honours and finishing third in Melbourne’s best and fairest award, but says there is a chance he might work in tandem this season with teammate Jake Spencer.[/font][/size]
He said Demons coach Simon Goodwin was leaning towards a dual ruck system that the team had trialled during the JLT Community Series matches.[/font][/size]
“The role has changed a bit,” Gawn said.[/font][/size]
“Goody has a bit of a different role for me than Roosy (Paul Roos) did.”[/font][/size]
“They have different philosophies in the way they play and the role they have for ruckmen, and it all might change a bit more with the third-man up change.[/font][/size]“If Jake doesn’t play, I will be 95 per cent in the ruck. But if Jake does play, I will obviously be going forward a lot more.[/font][/size]

Southstorm

Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2017, 11:49:56 AM

shower,   what will be the impact of this on Gawns SC output.    Giving me thought about a Goldy start and pickup Gawn mid season.





QuoteMAX Gawn has revealed he may play as much time forward as he does in the ruck this season.[/font][/size]Gawn, 25, enjoyed his breakout season last year, winning All-Australian honours and finishing third in Melbourne’s best and fairest award, but says there is a chance he might work in tandem this season with teammate Jake Spencer.[/font][/size]
He said Demons coach Simon Goodwin was leaning towards a dual ruck system that the team had trialled during the JLT Community Series matches.[/font][/size]
“The role has changed a bit,” Gawn said.[/font][/size]
“Goody has a bit of a different role for me than Roosy (Paul Roos) did.”[/font][/size]
“They have different philosophies in the way they play and the role they have for ruckmen, and it all might change a bit more with the third-man up change.[/font][/size]“If Jake doesn’t play, I will be 95 per cent in the ruck. But if Jake does play, I will obviously be going forward a lot more.[/font][/size]
I wouldn't read too much into it. It's that time of the year where players and coaches come out and say a few odd things here and there

Gigantor

Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2017, 11:49:56 AM

shower,   what will be the impact of this on Gawns SC output.    Giving me thought about a Goldy start and pickup Gawn mid season.





QuoteMAX Gawn has revealed he may play as much time forward as he does in the ruck this season.[/font][/size]Gawn, 25, enjoyed his breakout season last year, winning All-Australian honours and finishing third in Melbourne’s best and fairest award, but says there is a chance he might work in tandem this season with teammate Jake Spencer.[/font][/size]
He said Demons coach Simon Goodwin was leaning towards a dual ruck system that the team had trialled during the JLT Community Series matches.[/font][/size]
“The role has changed a bit,” Gawn said.[/font][/size]
“Goody has a bit of a different role for me than Roosy (Paul Roos) did.”[/font][/size]
“They have different philosophies in the way they play and the role they have for ruckmen, and it all might change a bit more with the third-man up change.[/font][/size]“If Jake doesn’t play, I will be 95 per cent in the ruck. But if Jake does play, I will obviously be going forward a lot more.[/font][/size]

What the flower do we do if both Spencer and Preuss are named round one haha

RaisyDaisy

Spencer's a flowering potato and Gawn can still crush when he goes forward

eaglesman

Quote from: Gigantor on March 05, 2017, 11:57:47 AM
Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2017, 11:49:56 AM

shower,   what will be the impact of this on Gawns SC output.    Giving me thought about a Goldy start and pickup Gawn mid season.





QuoteMAX Gawn has revealed he may play as much time forward as he does in the ruck this season.[/font][/size]Gawn, 25, enjoyed his breakout season last year, winning All-Australian honours and finishing third in Melbourne’s best and fairest award, but says there is a chance he might work in tandem this season with teammate Jake Spencer.[/font][/size]
He said Demons coach Simon Goodwin was leaning towards a dual ruck system that the team had trialled during the JLT Community Series matches.[/font][/size]
“The role has changed a bit,” Gawn said.[/font][/size]
“Goody has a bit of a different role for me than Roosy (Paul Roos) did.”[/font][/size]
“They have different philosophies in the way they play and the role they have for ruckmen, and it all might change a bit more with the third-man up change.[/font][/size]“If Jake doesn’t play, I will be 95 per cent in the ruck. But if Jake does play, I will obviously be going forward a lot more.[/font][/size]

What the flower do we do if both Spencer and Preuss are named round one haha

Sandi r1 witts r2 yolo!

GoLions

Quote from: eaglesman on March 05, 2017, 12:12:08 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on March 05, 2017, 11:57:47 AM
Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2017, 11:49:56 AM

shower,   what will be the impact of this on Gawns SC output.    Giving me thought about a Goldy start and pickup Gawn mid season.





QuoteMAX Gawn has revealed he may play as much time forward as he does in the ruck this season.[/font][/size]Gawn, 25, enjoyed his breakout season last year, winning All-Australian honours and finishing third in Melbourne’s best and fairest award, but says there is a chance he might work in tandem this season with teammate Jake Spencer.[/font][/size]
He said Demons coach Simon Goodwin was leaning towards a dual ruck system that the team had trialled during the JLT Community Series matches.[/font][/size]
“The role has changed a bit,” Gawn said.[/font][/size]
“Goody has a bit of a different role for me than Roosy (Paul Roos) did.”[/font][/size]
“They have different philosophies in the way they play and the role they have for ruckmen, and it all might change a bit more with the third-man up change.[/font][/size]“If Jake doesn’t play, I will be 95 per cent in the ruck. But if Jake does play, I will obviously be going forward a lot more.[/font][/size]

What the flower do we do if both Spencer and Preuss are named round one haha

Sandi r1 witts r2 yolo!
Witts for loopholing purposes, could save a bit of cash with the bargain basement rucks imho

Bully

Quote from: Southstorm on March 05, 2017, 11:56:56 AM
Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2017, 11:49:56 AM

shower,   what will be the impact of this on Gawns SC output.    Giving me thought about a Goldy start and pickup Gawn mid season.





QuoteMAX Gawn has revealed he may play as much time forward as he does in the ruck this season.[/font][/size]Gawn, 25, enjoyed his breakout season last year, winning All-Australian honours and finishing third in Melbourne’s best and fairest award, but says there is a chance he might work in tandem this season with teammate Jake Spencer.[/font][/size]
He said Demons coach Simon Goodwin was leaning towards a dual ruck system that the team had trialled during the JLT Community Series matches.[/font][/size]
“The role has changed a bit,” Gawn said.[/font][/size]
“Goody has a bit of a different role for me than Roosy (Paul Roos) did.”[/font][/size]
“They have different philosophies in the way they play and the role they have for ruckmen, and it all might change a bit more with the third-man up change.[/font][/size]“If Jake doesn’t play, I will be 95 per cent in the ruck. But if Jake does play, I will obviously be going forward a lot more.[/font][/size]
I wouldn't read too much into it. It's that time of the year where players and coaches come out and say a few odd things here and there

Spencer cannot play forward, so I cannot see how this arrangement would work. In any case, if Gawn isn't sole ruck I'll just do a round 3 downgrade to Goldy or whoever is tearing it up.

dmac07


What the flower do we do if both Spencer and Preuss are named round one haha
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Grundy and Sandi combo anyone? Though Id be happy to take the risk on Grundy being more unique for me!

Nige

Quote from: dmac07 on March 05, 2017, 01:07:25 PM
Grundy and Sandi combo anyone? Though Id be happy to take the risk on Grundy being more unique for me!
All over it already.  8)

shaker

Well I've been adamant that I would not get Sandi but also not blind to the advantage he gives enabling another gun on one of the other lines think he will be the most picked ruck after yesterday , he played most of the game and scored big and unless his body fails in the last game I now have to consider because if his body fails early in the season a lot of people will be in the same boat .
If he does go down early then dealing with it is where I would differ to most I am not at all interested in players like Ryder or Nank in my FWD's and if you look at Sandi's history when he is injured it is usually for a good stint so think I would just bite the bullet and double trade if it happened before he made any money but really have to consider him it is to much of an advantage to those who pick him if  he does string a lot of games early.