Which Rucks?

[bowyanger]

I cant believe what I just read...

211 = Massive risk - why bother? Freo clearly managing him....he is cooked...has been for the last 3 years

Ryder = I hope he proves me wrong because Ive tried faith in him in the past and I genially like the fellah. IMO because Ive had him he is seriously inconsistent and goes missing. In a team I expect to have a new coach some time through the year there is no way I'm going near him

Goldy = Limited preseason for a bloke playing a position that is massively reliant on fitness and getting to a contest..

Ruck is a very tough positon and it takes a toll (See Mumford, 211, Goldy etc) the time at the top is short lived - I'm looking at blokes coming into their prime like Grundy, ZSmith, THickey etc

Due to the new rule changes it also could blind side me, I wouldn't be surprised if relatively durable quality tap ruckmen like Sauce Jacobs kill the pig

Ruck is something I will monitor closely early on due to rule changes

I'm starting ZSmith & Gawn

[RaisyDaisy]

I cant believe what I just read...

Me too, but in reference to your post lol

Sandi has been cooked for 3 years? Goldy has had a limited preseason? Ryder goes missing but Zac Smith you like?  :o

Sandi copped broken ribs last year and prior to that had two seasons of 21 games played averaging 108 and 107.8

Goldy has only missed a couple of weeks with an ankle injury which is no big deal at all

I'm starting to move away from Ryder because I just can't see enough upside. Like you guys have mentioned if he goes 85 it's a fail, and if he goes 90 it's barely a pass. The cover is great, and 90 at F6 is fine but for 418k it's not a great result

The Nank has been floating around for a while, but last night showed he is clearly the Number 1 ruck, and he won't have a second ruck in the side like Ryder will. Nank scored 89 from 73% TOG and at 366k he can provide cover like Ryder, but actually make more cash and also turn into a F6 keeper possibly

I know it's a small percentage, but again his HOTA last night was 50%. Really starting to warm to The Nank

[Holz]

Ask this question to yourself if ryder was a F only would everyone be picking him?

He averaged 85 in his last season at port. Lets say he starts a little slow due to port and him wirking it out and gies 80-85 thats shocking from a 400+ forward.

[GCSkiwi]

Ask this question to yourself if ryder was a F only would everyone be picking him?

He averaged 85 in his last season at port. Lets say he starts a little slow due to port and him wirking it out and gies 80-85 thats shocking from a 400+ forward.

That's not really an argument though... If Jelwood was a defender, would everyone be picking him? Of course. But that's irrelevant, because he's not. Part opf Ryder's appeal is that he can be ruck cover, if he was fwd only of course you'd be less tempted to take the punt. But if he was fwd only, you'd also have to rethink your ruck situation to ensure you have cover. I'd rather go with Ryder and Sandi for 726k than with Gawn and a 123k rookie for 768k... The risk I'm hedging is trades, and I'm ok with that.

[meow meow]

Gawn, Goldy - Cameron
Nankervis + Boyd forward

Can't go wrong. No donut, cash galore, points galore.

[RaisyDaisy]

Can never be too safe meow!  ;D

[Bully]

Ask this question to yourself if ryder was a F only would everyone be picking him?

He averaged 85 in his last season at port. Lets say he starts a little slow due to port and him wirking it out and gies 80-85 thats shocking from a 400+ forward.

Why do Port have to go through another teething phase? That happened in 2015. For the record, Ryder's last 8 games for the Power yielded 4 tons and only one score under 80, I think it's fair to say they know how to use him.

[Bully]

I cant believe what I just read...

Me too, but in reference to your post lol

Sandi has been cooked for 3 years? Goldy has had a limited preseason? Ryder goes missing but Zac Smith you like?  :o

Sandi copped broken ribs last year and prior to that had two seasons of 21 games played averaging 108 and 107.8

Goldy has only missed a couple of weeks with an ankle injury which is no big deal at all

I'm starting to move away from Ryder because I just can't see enough upside. Like you guys have mentioned if he goes 85 it's a fail, and if he goes 90 it's barely a pass. The cover is great, and 90 at F6 is fine but for 418k it's not a great result

The Nank has been floating around for a while, but last night showed he is clearly the Number 1 ruck, and he won't have a second ruck in the side like Ryder will. Nank scored 89 from 73% TOG and at 366k he can provide cover like Ryder, but actually make more cash and also turn into a F6 keeper possibly

I know it's a small percentage, but again his HOTA last night was 50%. Really starting to warm to The Nank

I like what Nank brings to the table but don't forget he had very little opposition once Sauce left the field. Hampson will also be staking his claim (although I personally prefer Nank). If Nankervis absolutely tears it up in the first 3 weeks then I'll just use a corrective trade. The risks associated with Ryder are being completely overblown in my opinion. Particularly given this year is a crap shoot in the forward line.

[Ringo]

Know it is only a half and with Melbourne dominating this is a little concerning especially with H/O to advantage gold in SC, "Just 1 hitout-to-advantage for Gawn from 26 ruck contests attended in the 1st half. Has 25 #SuperCoach points."

Hopefully just a slow start and not following through on the usual fail to follow up strong seasons. $645k looking very pricey atm.

[crowls]

Know it is only a half and with Melbourne dominating this is a little concerning especially with H/O to advantage gold in SC, "Just 1 hitout-to-advantage for Gawn from 26 ruck contests attended in the 1st half. Has 25 #SuperCoach points."

Hopefully just a slow start and not following through on the usual fail to follow up strong seasons. $645k looking very pricey atm.

No worries Ringo,  at your age better to avoid high stress situations.  so drop Gawn and start Goldy in R1.   I will still start Gawn.  supported by Sandi.

[Mat0369]

Ryder can average 100+ as the number 1 ruck. The thing is he is so inconsistent that you're better off looking at him as an upgrade just after his bye, especially if he puts up a stinker or two and drops in price.

Speaking of a walking injury but at a pretty good price, Matthew Kreuzer. He looked fit and ready to go at the game today. Gorringe also has an achilles injury so he will do the majority of the ruck work.

[RaisyDaisy]

Preuss looked good today scoring 95 while Goldy scored 94

I assume the decision for nearly everyone will now be down to Goldy R2 Preuss R3 vs Sandi R2 Strdanica R3 with Ryder/Lycett/Nank up front?

[GCSkiwi]

Preuss looked good today scoring 95 while Goldy scored 94

I assume the decision for nearly everyone will now be down to Goldy R2 Preuss R3 vs Sandi R2 Strdanica R3 with Ryder/Lycett/Nank up front?

Preuss as an R/F would be real handy... I think this call will come down to rookies for me, at the moment got the Sandi/Strnadica/Ryder combo going, If there's a decent crop of fwd rookies up for grabs round 1 then I might go light up front (Dahl/Macrae/Roughy/rooks) and take Gawn/Goldy/Preuss, but for now I'm happy as is.

[shaker]

If Preuss lines up R1 then no Goldy

[RaisyDaisy]

If Preuss lines up R1 then no Goldy

I would have thought having the cover was good. Daw, Brown and Petrie etc haven't impacted Goldy's scoring so will Preuss really impact that much?

I've never had Goldy so not really impacting me but those that do have him I guess I'm curious to see how it plays at