Which Rucks?

[GoLions]

Only first game but peoples thoughts on Ryder's performance 70% TOG have not seen his SC score but it looks like it will be low ?

Hard to get a proper gauge seeing as Lobbe was playing as well last night and he won't be during the regular season.

Has that been confirmed and by who that Lobbe will not be playing ?

cause he's trash

He might be trash but he comfortably outscored Ryder with much less TOG

And if I'm not mistaken, this is basically the only thing that coaches look at when selecting the best 22 each week, particularly in JLT games.

[Rusty00]

Only first game but peoples thoughts on Ryder's performance 70% TOG have not seen his SC score but it looks like it will be low ?

Hard to get a proper gauge seeing as Lobbe was playing as well last night and he won't be during the regular season.

Has that been confirmed and by who that Lobbe will not be playing ?

cause he's trash

He might be trash but he comfortably outscored Ryder with much less TOG

And if I'm not mistaken, this is basically the only thing that coaches look at when selecting the best 22 each week, particularly in JLT games.

You're in fine form today ;)

[Dons]

Only first game but peoples thoughts on Ryder's performance 70% TOG have not seen his SC score but it looks like it will be low ?

Hard to get a proper gauge seeing as Lobbe was playing as well last night and he won't be during the regular season.

Ryder had the tracksuit on at half time and didn't play in the second half. Maybe the 70% TOG statistic means 70% of the first half? Or maybe it's just been cocked up... He also spent basically all of the second quarter fwd too, so I wouldn't read too much into this game.

Has that been confirmed and by who that Lobbe will not be playing ?

cause he's trash

He might be trash but he comfortably outscored Ryder with much less TOG

And if I'm not mistaken, this is basically the only thing that coaches look at when selecting the best 22 each week, particularly in JLT games.

You're in fine form today ;)

[Bully]

Will there be enough cheap forward rookies to justify Goldy + rookie? There's also the question of having back-up for a ruck missing a week. Odds are it will happen.

no necessarily cheap but

M.Kennedy, Knight, Turner, McCluggage, Taranto, McCarthy, Bowes, Ainsworth, Schoenmakers, JKH, Black, Eddy

to counter the cover issue im starting preuss at R3. The issue is now only if gawn misses a game.

Sandi & Ryder costs 726k, you would need a rookie under 140k to match that. As for the cash generation, I reckon both Sandi & Ryder will make $$. At a minimum, the combo should bring in 200k (and that's in the event they need to be traded).

[benny_fraz]

TOBY NANKERVIS ANYONE?

If he's the sole ruckman, I can see him averaging 100. He tackles, marks and can sneak a goal.

Played well tonight

[TomK]

TOBY NANKERVIS ANYONE?

If he's the sole ruckman, I can see him averaging 100. He tackles, marks and can sneak a goal.

Played well tonight

settle down

[GoLions]

Will there be enough cheap forward rookies to justify Goldy + rookie? There's also the question of having back-up for a ruck missing a week. Odds are it will happen.

no necessarily cheap but

M.Kennedy, Knight, Turner, McCluggage, Taranto, McCarthy, Bowes, Ainsworth, Schoenmakers, JKH, Black, Eddy

to counter the cover issue im starting preuss at R3. The issue is now only if gawn misses a game.

Sandi & Ryder costs 726k, you would need a rookie under 140k to match that. As for the cash generation, I reckon both Sandi & Ryder will make $$. At a minimum, the combo should bring in 200k (and that's in the event they need to be traded).

It really depends on Ryder. If you think he can go 90+ then you'd start him. Personally, I reckon he goes around 85, which means he makes, what, 50k? Definitely not worth it. 90+ though, and he makes 100k (or thereabouts), and can probably be kept at F6, which would make him worth starting. Going to have to wait until at least R9 though to see what ends up being the right choice though :P

And everyone knows Sandi is capable of pushing a 105-110 average, which would see him makea lot of cash. Just need him to stay on the park.

I have Gawn and Goldy, no cover up forward, and tbh the only other option I have considered is Goldy or Gawn to Stef if I need a bit more cash, but never made the change myself.

[GoLions]

TOBY NANKERVIS ANYONE?

If he's the sole ruckman, I can see him averaging 100. He tackles, marks and can sneak a goal.

Played well tonight

settle down

Yeah, no way he averages 100 haha.





Sole ruck he'll average 105.





110 if he gets to play the Crows every week.

[TomK]

TOBY NANKERVIS ANYONE?

If he's the sole ruckman, I can see him averaging 100. He tackles, marks and can sneak a goal.

Played well tonight

settle down

Yeah, no way he averages 100 haha.





Sole ruck he'll average 105.





110 if he gets to play the Crows every week.

Imagine what he'll do to the Lions then :o

[Bully]

Will there be enough cheap forward rookies to justify Goldy + rookie? There's also the question of having back-up for a ruck missing a week. Odds are it will happen.

no necessarily cheap but

M.Kennedy, Knight, Turner, McCluggage, Taranto, McCarthy, Bowes, Ainsworth, Schoenmakers, JKH, Black, Eddy

to counter the cover issue im starting preuss at R3. The issue is now only if gawn misses a game.

Sandi & Ryder costs 726k, you would need a rookie under 140k to match that. As for the cash generation, I reckon both Sandi & Ryder will make $$. At a minimum, the combo should bring in 200k (and that's in the event they need to be traded).

It really depends on Ryder. If you think he can go 90+ then you'd start him. Personally, I reckon he goes around 85, which means he makes, what, 50k? Definitely not worth it. 90+ though, and he makes 100k (or thereabouts), and can probably be kept at F6, which would make him worth starting. Going to have to wait until at least R9 though to see what ends up being the right choice though :P

And everyone knows Sandi is capable of pushing a 105-110 average, which would see him makea lot of cash. Just need him to stay on the park.

I have Gawn and Goldy, no cover up forward, and tbh the only other option I have considered is Goldy or Gawn to Stef if I need a bit more cash, but never made the change myself.

Ryder should get 70% of the ruck work, he tends to do very well when given the top job. 85 would be the bare minimum, prior to 2015 he averaged 90, 105, 90, 101. He's also insurance, that's a trade saved or a donut avoided if disaster strikes.

[crowls]

Will there be enough cheap forward rookies to justify Goldy + rookie? There's also the question of having back-up for a ruck missing a week. Odds are it will happen.

no necessarily cheap but

M.Kennedy, Knight, Turner, McCluggage, Taranto, McCarthy, Bowes, Ainsworth, Schoenmakers, JKH, Black, Eddy

to counter the cover issue im starting preuss at R3. The issue is now only if gawn misses a game.

Sandi & Ryder costs 726k, you would need a rookie under 140k to match that. As for the cash generation, I reckon both Sandi & Ryder will make $$. At a minimum, the combo should bring in 200k (and that's in the event they need to be traded).

It really depends on Ryder. If you think he can go 90+ then you'd start him. Personally, I reckon he goes around 85, which means he makes, what, 50k? Definitely not worth it. 90+ though, and he makes 100k (or thereabouts), and can probably be kept at F6, which would make him worth starting. Going to have to wait until at least R9 though to see what ends up being the right choice though :P

And everyone knows Sandi is capable of pushing a 105-110 average, which would see him makea lot of cash. Just need him to stay on the park.

I have Gawn and Goldy, no cover up forward, and tbh the only other option I have considered is Goldy or Gawn to Stef if I need a bit more cash, but never made the change myself.

Ryder should get 70% of the ruck work, he tends to do very well when given the top job. 85 would be the bare minimum, prior to 2015 he averaged 90, 105, 90, 101. He's also insurance, that's a trade saved or a donut avoided if disaster strikes.

That is a pretty fair assessment of Ryder Bully.   Effectively you get free cover for Rucks for a F6 worst case scenario. 

[GoLions]

Will there be enough cheap forward rookies to justify Goldy + rookie? There's also the question of having back-up for a ruck missing a week. Odds are it will happen.

no necessarily cheap but

M.Kennedy, Knight, Turner, McCluggage, Taranto, McCarthy, Bowes, Ainsworth, Schoenmakers, JKH, Black, Eddy

to counter the cover issue im starting preuss at R3. The issue is now only if gawn misses a game.

Sandi & Ryder costs 726k, you would need a rookie under 140k to match that. As for the cash generation, I reckon both Sandi & Ryder will make $$. At a minimum, the combo should bring in 200k (and that's in the event they need to be traded).

It really depends on Ryder. If you think he can go 90+ then you'd start him. Personally, I reckon he goes around 85, which means he makes, what, 50k? Definitely not worth it. 90+ though, and he makes 100k (or thereabouts), and can probably be kept at F6, which would make him worth starting. Going to have to wait until at least R9 though to see what ends up being the right choice though :P

And everyone knows Sandi is capable of pushing a 105-110 average, which would see him makea lot of cash. Just need him to stay on the park.

I have Gawn and Goldy, no cover up forward, and tbh the only other option I have considered is Goldy or Gawn to Stef if I need a bit more cash, but never made the change myself.

Ryder should get 70% of the ruck work, he tends to do very well when given the top job. 85 would be the bare minimum, prior to 2015 he averaged 90, 105, 90, 101. He's also insurance, that's a trade saved or a donut avoided if disaster strikes.

He hasn't played in a long time though. I would be surprised if he went straight back to his previous scoring, think he will take a while to work into things. So that would mean that from a money making perspective, particularly for early on in the season, he wouldn't be all that good.

I could be completely wrong though and he could go 90+ from round 1 ;D

[GoLions]

Will there be enough cheap forward rookies to justify Goldy + rookie? There's also the question of having back-up for a ruck missing a week. Odds are it will happen.

no necessarily cheap but

M.Kennedy, Knight, Turner, McCluggage, Taranto, McCarthy, Bowes, Ainsworth, Schoenmakers, JKH, Black, Eddy

to counter the cover issue im starting preuss at R3. The issue is now only if gawn misses a game.

Sandi & Ryder costs 726k, you would need a rookie under 140k to match that. As for the cash generation, I reckon both Sandi & Ryder will make $$. At a minimum, the combo should bring in 200k (and that's in the event they need to be traded).

It really depends on Ryder. If you think he can go 90+ then you'd start him. Personally, I reckon he goes around 85, which means he makes, what, 50k? Definitely not worth it. 90+ though, and he makes 100k (or thereabouts), and can probably be kept at F6, which would make him worth starting. Going to have to wait until at least R9 though to see what ends up being the right choice though :P

And everyone knows Sandi is capable of pushing a 105-110 average, which would see him makea lot of cash. Just need him to stay on the park.

I have Gawn and Goldy, no cover up forward, and tbh the only other option I have considered is Goldy or Gawn to Stef if I need a bit more cash, but never made the change myself.

Ryder should get 70% of the ruck work, he tends to do very well when given the top job. 85 would be the bare minimum, prior to 2015 he averaged 90, 105, 90, 101. He's also insurance, that's a trade saved or a donut avoided if disaster strikes.

That is a pretty fair assessment of Ryder Bully.   Effectively you get free cover for Rucks for a F6 worst case scenario.

No, worst case you lose 10-15ppg, don't make any cash from the pick, and either waste a trade to upgrade him or continue to bleed points ;)

[Bully]

Will there be enough cheap forward rookies to justify Goldy + rookie? There's also the question of having back-up for a ruck missing a week. Odds are it will happen.

no necessarily cheap but

M.Kennedy, Knight, Turner, McCluggage, Taranto, McCarthy, Bowes, Ainsworth, Schoenmakers, JKH, Black, Eddy

to counter the cover issue im starting preuss at R3. The issue is now only if gawn misses a game.

Sandi & Ryder costs 726k, you would need a rookie under 140k to match that. As for the cash generation, I reckon both Sandi & Ryder will make $$. At a minimum, the combo should bring in 200k (and that's in the event they need to be traded).

It really depends on Ryder. If you think he can go 90+ then you'd start him. Personally, I reckon he goes around 85, which means he makes, what, 50k? Definitely not worth it. 90+ though, and he makes 100k (or thereabouts), and can probably be kept at F6, which would make him worth starting. Going to have to wait until at least R9 though to see what ends up being the right choice though :P

And everyone knows Sandi is capable of pushing a 105-110 average, which would see him makea lot of cash. Just need him to stay on the park.

I have Gawn and Goldy, no cover up forward, and tbh the only other option I have considered is Goldy or Gawn to Stef if I need a bit more cash, but never made the change myself.

Ryder should get 70% of the ruck work, he tends to do very well when given the top job. 85 would be the bare minimum, prior to 2015 he averaged 90, 105, 90, 101. He's also insurance, that's a trade saved or a donut avoided if disaster strikes.

That is a pretty fair assessment of Ryder Bully.   Effectively you get free cover for Rucks for a F6 worst case scenario.

No, worst case you lose 10-15ppg, don't make any cash from the pick, and either waste a trade to upgrade him or continue to bleed points ;)

But even in the worst case scenario ie. 85 average, Sandi should make up the points difference over a Goldy + rookie situation. The latter will 100% cost a trade, I'd be content to keep Ryder for the season knowing he will be there if a ruck goes down. If Sandi only plays the first half of the year at least he makes money and can be upgraded to Goldy. The upside to all this is Sandi plays most of the year, Ryder averages 90+ and I get an extra trade over the Goldy + rookie combo.

[GoLions]

Will there be enough cheap forward rookies to justify Goldy + rookie? There's also the question of having back-up for a ruck missing a week. Odds are it will happen.

no necessarily cheap but

M.Kennedy, Knight, Turner, McCluggage, Taranto, McCarthy, Bowes, Ainsworth, Schoenmakers, JKH, Black, Eddy

to counter the cover issue im starting preuss at R3. The issue is now only if gawn misses a game.

Sandi & Ryder costs 726k, you would need a rookie under 140k to match that. As for the cash generation, I reckon both Sandi & Ryder will make $$. At a minimum, the combo should bring in 200k (and that's in the event they need to be traded).

It really depends on Ryder. If you think he can go 90+ then you'd start him. Personally, I reckon he goes around 85, which means he makes, what, 50k? Definitely not worth it. 90+ though, and he makes 100k (or thereabouts), and can probably be kept at F6, which would make him worth starting. Going to have to wait until at least R9 though to see what ends up being the right choice though :P

And everyone knows Sandi is capable of pushing a 105-110 average, which would see him makea lot of cash. Just need him to stay on the park.

I have Gawn and Goldy, no cover up forward, and tbh the only other option I have considered is Goldy or Gawn to Stef if I need a bit more cash, but never made the change myself.

Ryder should get 70% of the ruck work, he tends to do very well when given the top job. 85 would be the bare minimum, prior to 2015 he averaged 90, 105, 90, 101. He's also insurance, that's a trade saved or a donut avoided if disaster strikes.

That is a pretty fair assessment of Ryder Bully.   Effectively you get free cover for Rucks for a F6 worst case scenario.

No, worst case you lose 10-15ppg, don't make any cash from the pick, and either waste a trade to upgrade him or continue to bleed points ;)

But even in the worst case scenario ie. 85 average, Sandi should make up the points difference over a Goldy + rookie situation. The latter will 100% cost a trade, I'd be content to keep Ryder for the season knowing he will be there if a ruck goes down. If Sandi only plays the first half of the year at least he makes money and can be upgraded to Goldy. The upside to all this is Sandi plays most of the year, Ryder averages 90+ and I get an extra trade over the Goldy + rookie combo.

Yeah I agree you'd most likely get more ppg. I don't trust Sandi to stay on the park though :P

If Sandi stays fit for the first half of the season, and Ryder can average 90+, then that combo is a huge winner (unless Goldy gets back to 120+, and/or the rookie you choose in the Goldy combo kills it and makes a tonne of cash). Also a winner if Goldy or Gawn or whoever your R1 is gets injured and you have Ryder covering.

If guys like Gawn and Goldy can stay fit and play all year though, or if Ryder doesn't get that 90+ average, and/or Sandi misses games in the first half of the season before making enough cash to justify the pick to upgrade him, then it's a decent loss.

Could go either way. Not by any means saying that my opinion is fact or anything, and happy for Sandi and Ryder to prove me wrong :) (although would be even happier to see Goldy go 120+ tbqh ;))