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Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
Sandi + Ryder vs Goldy + FWD rookie

Sandi 105
Ryder 90 (conservative)

195, 200 not out of the question

Goldy 110
Rookie 65

175

Not to mention Ryder could be good enough for F6 all year and provide year round ruck cover

or sanid averages 95 and get injured, ryder put ups 80-85 and is that annoying guy underpeforming on your team. Goldy gets healthy bounce back to 115-120 and your kicking yourself. Meanwhile my rookie makes 200k and i double trade him up to a real fwd premo over Ryder.


Ricochet

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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2017, 11:49:55 AM
And while were talking rucks, I keep hearing more and more good things coming out of Richmond about Nank

Another article today about how great he is going, and even though he only played a handful of games last year he was actually Ranked #1 for HOTA
Yes but he also had elite mids at his feet to tap to. JPK Hanners Parker TMitch are a step above Richmond's

He also only averaged 14 HO's a game. Which ranks him at #37 in the comp...

Obviously time in the middle affects this and he should improve at Richmond, but that HOTA stat that is floating around is a little misleading

jfitty

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2017, 11:49:55 AM
And while were talking rucks, I keep hearing more and more good things coming out of Richmond about Nank

Another article today about how great he is going, and even though he only played a handful of games last year he was actually Ranked #1 for HOTA

Ryder vs Nank + 50k?

Reckon the next 2 weeks JLT will be the decider, but going with Ryder for now as he has the runs on the board

I've had a bit of a think about Nankervis, but might depend how Richmond structure their rucks. Without Vickery they may run with both Nank and Hampson, but if Nank rucks on his own he could be worth considering.

An Ivan Maric 2012 style season would be nice ;D

RaisyDaisy

To be honest, I couldn't see myself every actually starting someone like Nank

Holz - there's if and maybe's to both sides, so we just have to make our own decision and go with it, and then see how we go

crowls

Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2017, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
Sandi + Ryder vs Goldy + FWD rookie

Sandi 105
Ryder 90 (conservative)

195, 200 not out of the question

Goldy 110
Rookie 65

175

Not to mention Ryder could be good enough for F6 all year and provide year round ruck cover

or sanid averages 95 and get injured, ryder put ups 80-85 and is that annoying guy underpeforming on your team. Goldy gets healthy bounce back to 115-120 and your kicking yourself. Meanwhile my rookie makes 200k and i double trade him up to a real fwd premo over Ryder.
Who is this "real fwd premo" you refer to Holz?    One of my problems this year has been finding fwds who I class as premium.    At the moment that is Dahlhous and ........      all the other fwds have question marks over their ability to get to 95+ which is what I would want from fwd premo.     My goal at year end would be 105, 100,100, 95, 95, 90.       How many people will be in that position come end of season?   On that basis Ryder is high probability to be no worse than F6 and probably f4/5 with a 20/1 chance of 100+

Holz

Quote from: crowls on February 23, 2017, 01:56:15 PM
Who is this "real fwd premo" you refer to Holz?    One of my problems this year has been finding fwds who I class as premium.    At the moment that is Dahlhous and ........      all the other fwds have question marks over their ability to get to 95+ which is what I would want from fwd premo.     My goal at year end would be 105, 100,100, 95, 95, 90.       How many people will be in that position come end of season?   On that basis Ryder is high probability to be no worse than F6 and probably f4/5 with a 20/1 chance of 100+

I don't know that why im not picking one, I will know by round 8 who it is though.

Nroo
Lids
JJK
Buddy
Macrae
Tom Lynch
Gunston
Greene
Caddy
Westhoff
Wingard

looking at all those guys. The top 7 in particular i really like.

Lynch is improving every year and GC should get better you would think he is a shot at going 95-100. i reckon thats worth the 80k over ryder.

Remember Ryder did only average 85 in his first year at port. 420k for 85 and 500k for 95 ill take the 95.

Macrae has gone 100 twice if he looks like he can do that again then worth the 90k over ryder easy.

Lids who knows if fit could average 85-110.

Nroo coming off a 100 back it up a must have.

Buddy we all know what he can do has a great engine room might start a little slow as not 100% but easily able to average 100 from round 4 onwards for example.

Gunston average 97 the year before, 92 last year depends how hawks and roughy go he averaged 97 with roughy in the squad, if tom mitchell and JOM intergrate into the side hawks could be very very deadly.

So there is 8 guys i can easily see scoring 90+ and probably 95+.

If you think Ryder goes 90+ pick him.

but a 80-85 will not cut it.

The good thing is guys like Lynch Nroo Buddy JJK often have a few quiet games and drop in price to 450kish so 420k isnt a steal.

Gavdroid

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2017, 11:49:55 AM
And while were talking rucks, I keep hearing more and more good things coming out of Richmond about Nank

Another article today about how great he is going, and even though he only played a handful of games last year he was actually Ranked #1 for HTA

So was Hampson when we got him though, so not sure it makes a great deal of difference. He'll be better fwd than Hampson though

meow meow

Sandi will last approximately 3 rounds before he misses.

Clearly Tom Boyd is the best value for money option now that his premiership winning partner has gone down. He'll assume the role of #1 ruck not only at WB but in the entire AFL. And win the Coleman medal while he's at it.

Ringo

I am actually warming to Boyd following the injury- Will have to discard one of macrae or Dahlhaus to fit though.

RaisyDaisy

Enjoy the 70 average and 40k price rise :P

crowls

Quote from: Ringo on February 23, 2017, 03:29:00 PM
I am actually warming to Boyd following the injury- Will have to discard one of macrae or Dahlhaus to fit though.
Can we have a breath test in Qld please.    Lot of prayer required to se Boyd get above 80.

Ringo

Quote from: crowls on February 23, 2017, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: Ringo on February 23, 2017, 03:29:00 PM
I am actually warming to Boyd following the injury- Will have to discard one of macrae or Dahlhaus to fit though.
Can we have a breath test in Qld please.    Lot of prayer required to se Boyd get above 80.
Only said warming - based on price and what I need structure rise. Still prefer Ryder if I can fit in.
Hard to remember he was a number 1 draft pick 3 years ago.

Hippo

Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2017, 02:07:09 PM
Quote from: crowls on February 23, 2017, 01:56:15 PM
Who is this "real fwd premo" you refer to Holz?    One of my problems this year has been finding fwds who I class as premium.    At the moment that is Dahlhous and ........      all the other fwds have question marks over their ability to get to 95+ which is what I would want from fwd premo.     My goal at year end would be 105, 100,100, 95, 95, 90.       How many people will be in that position come end of season?   On that basis Ryder is high probability to be no worse than F6 and probably f4/5 with a 20/1 chance of 100+

I don't know that why im not picking one, I will know by round 8 who it is though.

Nroo
Lids
JJK
Buddy
Macrae
Tom Lynch
Gunston
Greene
Caddy
Westhoff
Wingard

looking at all those guys. The top 7 in particular i really like.

Lynch is improving every year and GC should get better you would think he is a shot at going 95-100. i reckon thats worth the 80k over ryder.

Remember Ryder did only average 85 in his first year at port. 420k for 85 and 500k for 95 ill take the 95.

Macrae has gone 100 twice if he looks like he can do that again then worth the 90k over ryder easy.

Lids who knows if fit could average 85-110.

Nroo coming off a 100 back it up a must have.

Buddy we all know what he can do has a great engine room might start a little slow as not 100% but easily able to average 100 from round 4 onwards for example.

Gunston average 97 the year before, 92 last year depends how hawks and roughy go he averaged 97 with roughy in the squad, if tom mitchell and JOM intergrate into the side hawks could be very very deadly.

So there is 8 guys i can easily see scoring 90+ and probably 95+.

If you think Ryder goes 90+ pick him.

but a 80-85 will not cut it.

The good thing is guys like Lynch Nroo Buddy JJK often have a few quiet games and drop in price to 450kish so 420k isnt a steal.
Gee gone out on a limb here Hoz  ::) Needs more Miller in your list

tommy10

Quote from: Hippo on February 23, 2017, 04:59:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2017, 02:07:09 PM
Quote from: crowls on February 23, 2017, 01:56:15 PM
Who is this "real fwd premo" you refer to Holz?    One of my problems this year has been finding fwds who I class as premium.    At the moment that is Dahlhous and ........      all the other fwds have question marks over their ability to get to 95+ which is what I would want from fwd premo.     My goal at year end would be 105, 100,100, 95, 95, 90.       How many people will be in that position come end of season?   On that basis Ryder is high probability to be no worse than F6 and probably f4/5 with a 20/1 chance of 100+

I don't know that why im not picking one, I will know by round 8 who it is though.

Nroo
Lids
JJK
Buddy
Macrae
Tom Lynch
Gunston
Greene
Caddy
Westhoff
Wingard

looking at all those guys. The top 7 in particular i really like.

Lynch is improving every year and GC should get better you would think he is a shot at going 95-100. i reckon thats worth the 80k over ryder.

Remember Ryder did only average 85 in his first year at port. 420k for 85 and 500k for 95 ill take the 95.

Macrae has gone 100 twice if he looks like he can do that again then worth the 90k over ryder easy.

Lids who knows if fit could average 85-110.

Nroo coming off a 100 back it up a must have.

Buddy we all know what he can do has a great engine room might start a little slow as not 100% but easily able to average 100 from round 4 onwards for example.

Gunston average 97 the year before, 92 last year depends how hawks and roughy go he averaged 97 with roughy in the squad, if tom mitchell and JOM intergrate into the side hawks could be very very deadly.

So there is 8 guys i can easily see scoring 90+ and probably 95+.

If you think Ryder goes 90+ pick him.

but a 80-85 will not cut it.

The good thing is guys like Lynch Nroo Buddy JJK often have a few quiet games and drop in price to 450kish so 420k isnt a steal.
Gee gone out on a limb here Hoz  ::) Needs more Miller in your list
And Heeney

tor01doc

Must admit I got a bit excited reading the dog fight between two of my favourites in this thread.

Holz vs RD - get a room boys and I will video it

Just watched Trainspotting as a warm up for the sequel - pass me the syringe

PS Love that soundtrack

Good luck 2017 Supercoachers