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Started by RaisyDaisy, December 12, 2016, 12:27:07 AM

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Bully

Quote from: Nige on March 14, 2017, 11:19:35 PM
That's why you gotta get on Grundy and Nank!

Grundy, Nank & Sandilands

crowls

Quote from: Nige on March 14, 2017, 11:19:35 PM
That's why you gotta get on Grundy and Nank!
Nank is more attractive whilst Hampson is out.    Grundy will have M Cox cutting his lunch most games.  If Archie Smith doesnt start then Stef is a valid option again as well.   


Nige

Quote from: Bully on March 14, 2017, 11:25:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 14, 2017, 11:19:35 PM
That's why you gotta get on Grundy and Nank!

Grundy, Nank & Sandilands
Yep, they're the three I have. Grundy R1, Sandi R2 and Nank F5. Beautiful combination.

batt

Oh god I just came to the dark side with Sandiwitts.

My 3 rucks combined cost less than Gawn.  Bugger me.


Judd Magic

I'm going Nank and Sandi as R1 and R2 with Witts at R3.

If Witts shows he is capable of holding down R2 I might switch Nank down forward with Strnadica, Taranto to M8 and Powell-Pepper to M9.

quinny88

Quote from: Judd Magic on March 15, 2017, 02:58:44 AM
I'm going Nank and Sandi as R1 and R2 with Witts at R3.

If Witts shows he is capable of holding down R2 I might switch Nank down forward with Strnadica, Taranto to M8 and Powell-Pepper to M9.

Considering this ruck set up myself. Makes all other lines look very nice too. Gonna be very hard to fix if it goes sour though

jvalles69

With all these ruck options in Ryder, Nank, Witts, Sandi etc.  Is anyone actually following through if Gawn and Goldy are named sole ruckmen?  Think it's still an option, but surely you couldn't doing knowing Gawn and Goldy are capable of monster scores.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: jvalles69 on March 15, 2017, 04:12:07 PM
With all these ruck options in Ryder, Nank, Witts, Sandi etc.  Is anyone actually following through if Gawn and Goldy are named sole ruckmen?  Think it's still an option, but surely you couldn't doing knowing Gawn and Goldy are capable of monster scores.
Even if there was a possibility that they are named sole ruckmen, i don't think they will. Spencer is almost a lock to play, and Preuss really impressed in JLT and I would think Daw is a chance also.

Holz

Quote from: jvalles69 on March 15, 2017, 04:12:07 PM
With all these ruck options in Ryder, Nank, Witts, Sandi etc.  Is anyone actually following through if Gawn and Goldy are named sole ruckmen?  Think it's still an option, but surely you couldn't doing knowing Gawn and Goldy are capable of monster scores.

people are really overestimating the Preuss/Daw factor.

2015: Daw played and Goldy Scored 148

2014: the start goldy had that injured arm and Daw helped out alot but the last 3 games with Daw 166 131 133

I currently have the Vice Captain on Todd v Giles/Vardy at Etihad.

For Gawn if there was no sandi i would have him too.


jvalles69

Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2017, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 15, 2017, 04:12:07 PM
With all these ruck options in Ryder, Nank, Witts, Sandi etc.  Is anyone actually following through if Gawn and Goldy are named sole ruckmen?  Think it's still an option, but surely you couldn't doing knowing Gawn and Goldy are capable of monster scores.

people are really overestimating the Preuss/Daw factor.

2015: Daw played and Goldy Scored 148

2014: the start goldy had that injured arm and Daw helped out alot but the last 3 games with Daw 166 131 133

I currently have the Vice Captain on Todd v Giles/Vardy at Etihad.

For Gawn if there was no sandi i would have him too.

I completely agree and its only due to bye structure I have Gawn over Goldy, was just interested to know from the guys who do think it will be detrimental to their scores.  If anything if Spencer is named I prob will switch him to Goldy in case Gawn drops in price early.

shaker

Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2017, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 15, 2017, 04:12:07 PM
With all these ruck options in Ryder, Nank, Witts, Sandi etc.  Is anyone actually following through if Gawn and Goldy are named sole ruckmen?  Think it's still an option, but surely you couldn't doing knowing Gawn and Goldy are capable of monster scores.

people are really overestimating the Preuss/Daw factor.

2015: Daw played and Goldy Scored 148

2014: the start goldy had that injured arm and Daw helped out alot but the last 3 games with Daw 166 131 133

I currently have the Vice Captain on Todd v Giles/Vardy at Etihad.

For Gawn if there was no sandi i would have him too.



Firstly now with Petrie gone do you think the coach will go with all 3 I'm not sure myself ? I'm fine with Daw and Goldy but if Preuss plays as well it has to affect Goldy's scoring and I won't be going with him same With Gawn at his price he needs to be the sole ruck

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2017, 04:22:12 PM
people are really overestimating the Preuss/Daw factor.

2015: Daw played and Goldy Scored 148

2014: the start goldy had that injured arm and Daw helped out alot but the last 3 games with Daw 166 131 133

I currently have the Vice Captain on Todd v Giles/Vardy at Etihad.

For Gawn if there was no sandi i would have him too.

TODD GOLDSTEIN (NM) $588,400

2016 SC average: 108.14

2016 average as sole ruckman: 113

2016 average as shared ruck: 98.9 from eight matches

Holz

Quote from: shaker on March 15, 2017, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2017, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 15, 2017, 04:12:07 PM
With all these ruck options in Ryder, Nank, Witts, Sandi etc.  Is anyone actually following through if Gawn and Goldy are named sole ruckmen?  Think it's still an option, but surely you couldn't doing knowing Gawn and Goldy are capable of monster scores.

people are really overestimating the Preuss/Daw factor.

2015: Daw played and Goldy Scored 148

2014: the start goldy had that injured arm and Daw helped out alot but the last 3 games with Daw 166 131 133

I currently have the Vice Captain on Todd v Giles/Vardy at Etihad.

For Gawn if there was no sandi i would have him too.



Firstly now with Petrie gone do you think the coach will go with all 3 I'm not sure myself ? I'm fine with Daw and Goldy but if Preuss plays as well it has to affect Goldy's scoring and I won't be going with him same With Gawn at his price he needs to be the sole ruck

Petrie didnt really do any hithouts.

The pinch hitting guys are Daw and sometimes Brown.

Daw was going about 5 hitouts a game in the last 6 weeks.

just cant see Daw Wood and Preuss in the same squad. Daw is getting transitioned from a Ruck to a Forward as i think we can all see preuss is the back up ruck so Daw is no longer needed.

The other thing is Mason Wood will come back at some stage.

Preuss Wood Waite Daw Brown and even guys like Durdin and Mckay.

can see Preuss possibly taking Daw's role, but then Brown would basically do no pinch hitting and Waite and Wood wont. So realistically its pretty much the same as usual with Goldy doing all the work and resting up forward abit with preuss in the ruck.

north forwards will be in and out of the squad.

what we have seen from Preuss is a great NAB 1 with goldy not named.
a very good NAB 2 where Goldy played 2/3 of his normal time and Preuss was good up front with 3 goals
NAB 3 being the truest test, He was rubbish with 8 hitouts and not much else while Goldy looked in 1st gear being the clear best ruck.




Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2017, 04:52:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2017, 04:22:12 PM
people are really overestimating the Preuss/Daw factor.

2015: Daw played and Goldy Scored 148

2014: the start goldy had that injured arm and Daw helped out alot but the last 3 games with Daw 166 131 133

I currently have the Vice Captain on Todd v Giles/Vardy at Etihad.

For Gawn if there was no sandi i would have him too.

TODD GOLDSTEIN (NM) $588,400

2016 SC average: 108.14

2016 average as sole ruckman: 113

2016 average as shared ruck: 98.9 from eight matches

already answered this. He was injured in the second half when Daw was playing so of course the average will be like that.

Ben Brown in 2015 only had marginally less ruck time then Daw last year and Goldy averaged 128.


My Chumps

Has anyone else been considering the potential effect of the no third man up rule?

Without doing any research into the numbers, I would imagine teams would be going third man up very often against the best rucks of the comp. Especially against Goldy after his godlike season in 2015. Hit outs to advantage should come easier and more often this year, meaning there's definite scope for improvement amongst even the priciest rucks. I'm tempted to go Goldy + Gawn but Sandi should dominate for the same reason. 211 with no third man up is a beautiful prospect. Goldy + Gawn have a similar ceiling IMO so I'll take the cheaper option.

Goldy - Sandi - (Cameron/Strnadica)

I'm also now actually considering squeezing in Nank over Roughead.