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Started by RaisyDaisy, December 12, 2016, 12:27:07 AM

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enzedder

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2016, 06:06:02 PM
Anyone rolling with Stef and Sandi?
The article of Stef was interesting and got me thinking but the short answer to your question is no. I rate Stef as one of the elite with Goldy, Gawn and NicNat in SC and if his knee is okay then he could be a viable option in SC. The article about him today said something like he's largely pain free. Largely meaning something is still not right. You'd have to see him as a risk as such and as long as Goldy and Gawn are up and running I'll set and forget.

Ringo

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2016, 06:06:02 PM
Anyone rolling with Stef and Sandi?
Considering it obviously but will be watching Stef's output at training and intraclub.

Couple of relative paragraphs from the AFL report

"I just wasn't happy with my season. I would put it down to the knee but either way I felt a little bit embarrassed to be in third spot [in the B&F] just because my output wasn't what I wanted it to be," Martin said.

However that experience has made the 199cm mobile ruckman desperate to make amends next season.

Although still in the rehab group he is enjoying a week down at Launceston with his teammates and in particular being able to once again do leg weights and speed work at training.

"It is like I am a first year [player] in that way so it is really exciting. [I'm] largely pain free [and] able to do everything, which is the important thing whereas I was really limited last year," Martin said.

Martin is also relishing his role with mentoring youngsters being the only player over 30 on our list.

eaglesman

I think I'll go mid pricers in other positions rather than just the rucks.

Locking in Gawn goldy.

Money Shot

Quote from: Ringo on December 16, 2016, 07:42:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 16, 2016, 06:06:02 PM
Anyone rolling with Stef and Sandi?
Considering it obviously but will be watching Stef's output at training and intraclub.

Couple of relative paragraphs from the AFL report

"I just wasn't happy with my season. I would put it down to the knee but either way I felt a little bit embarrassed to be in third spot [in the B&F] just because my output wasn't what I wanted it to be," Martin said.

However that experience has made the 199cm mobile ruckman desperate to make amends next season.

Although still in the rehab group he is enjoying a week down at Launceston with his teammates and in particular being able to once again do leg weights and speed work at training.

"It is like I am a first year [player] in that way so it is really exciting. [I'm] largely pain free [and] able to do everything, which is the important thing whereas I was really limited last year," Martin said.

Martin is also relishing his role with mentoring youngsters being the only player over 30 on our list.
If I remember correctly there was a similar article this time last year about Gawn saying he wanted to become the best ruck and the game and from a supercoach point of view that happened so I will be watching Stef very closely ???

Gigantor

Any chance of Archie Smith playing and flowering up Martins scoring?

Ringo

Quote from: Gigantor on December 16, 2016, 10:07:45 PM
Any chance of Archie Smith playing and flowering up Martins scoring?
I would say not Gigantor but have been wrong before. Reason I say that is that playing Hipwood, Schache, McStay/Close/Freeman as the 3 tall forwards no room for Smith.  Archie has a fair bit of work to do on his kicking as well. Andrews or Close will chop out in rucks if needed.

RaisyDaisy

Matty Eagles is the big threat to Stef  ;D

_wato

Stef has me thinking but I dunno where I'd spend the $100k?

Money Shot

What happened to big Sauce Jacobs last year? and why is there no love for him this year?

fasttrack13

Quote from: Money Shot on December 18, 2016, 09:38:49 PM
What happened to big Sauce Jacobs last year? and why is there no love for him this year?

Danger couldn't rove his taps this year... and spent 7% less time on ground (probably because of Jenkins) - or injury???

Money Shot

Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 19, 2016, 01:30:08 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 18, 2016, 09:38:49 PM
What happened to big Sauce Jacobs last year? and why is there no love for him this year?

Danger couldn't rove his taps this year... and spent 7% less time on ground (probably because of Jenkins) - or injury???
Surely danger doesn't make to much of a difference? 7% less time on ground if concerning how ever.

TomK

Quote from: Money Shot on December 19, 2016, 09:14:16 AM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 19, 2016, 01:30:08 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 18, 2016, 09:38:49 PM
What happened to big Sauce Jacobs last year? and why is there no love for him this year?

Danger couldn't rove his taps this year... and spent 7% less time on ground (probably because of Jenkins) - or injury???
Surely danger doesn't make to much of a difference? 7% less time on ground if concerning how ever.
I don't believe he does. We were #1 in the comp for Centre Clearances towards the end of the year so he managed to do well there but just his work around the ground dropped, hence his decline in Dreamteam as well. Was carrying an elbow injury I'm pretty sure all year so that could've played a part. Wouldn't surprise md to see him as a top 5 ruck again but too risky imo.

fanTCfool

I've currently got Gawn and Grundy, they're 24 and 22 respectively, and with pretty much every other position we assume that players around that age will improve their average with a few years under their belt, there's no reason why we can't assume rucks are the same.

Stef, Goldy, even Sauce, they're all on the wrong side of 26, even if under-priced I think I'll avoid this year as I look to build a team of mainly younger premos with room to add about 5ppg.


Ringo

Quote from: Ringo on December 16, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on December 16, 2016, 10:07:45 PM
Any chance of Archie Smith playing and flowering up Martins scoring?
I would say not Gigantor but have been wrong before. Reason I say that is that playing Hipwood, Schache, McStay/Close/Freeman as the 3 tall forwards no room for Smith.  Archie has a fair bit of work to do on his kicking as well. Andrews or Close will chop out in rucks if needed.
After attending training today I am still not 100% certain.  Archie was doing a fair amount of work with the forwards so maybe there is a possibility.  Will have to wait till next year when Stef starts training with main group as to whether this is a real possibility with Archie and stef interchanging in the forward pocket,

fasttrack13

Quote from: TomK on December 19, 2016, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 19, 2016, 09:14:16 AM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 19, 2016, 01:30:08 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 18, 2016, 09:38:49 PM
What happened to big Sauce Jacobs last year? and why is there no love for him this year?

Danger couldn't rove his taps this year... and spent 7% less time on ground (probably because of Jenkins) - or injury???
Surely danger doesn't make to much of a difference? 7% less time on ground if concerning how ever.
I don't believe he does. We were #1 in the comp for Centre Clearances towards the end of the year so he managed to do well there but just his work around the ground dropped, hence his decline in Dreamteam as well. Was carrying an elbow injury I'm pretty sure all year so that could've played a part. Wouldn't surprise md to see him as a top 5 ruck again but too risky imo.

It was just apart of my reasoning for not picking him last year, going to stick with it ;)

I think if i had the cash I'd pick him over Sandilands... He also dropped in hitouts from 37 to 34 from his all aus year and then 34-32 last year. Of course because of the decrease in TOG. All his other stats stayed the same pretty much. Worth it i reckon!