Bont

[bowyanger]

A totally different player to Murph & Beams IMO - Bont has the stature of Pendles & Fyfe - add JWatson into the big midfielder stereotype and it has been proven these blokes are hard to contain or match up on

Murph & Beams are also playing in teams that are going to get smashed every second week - much worse its fair to say than when they were scoring well a few years ago in a slightly more successful team and before injuries hit them both
I believe this will affect their scoring at some point...we cannot compare how Ablett scored at the suns - he is a one in a lifetime player
I don't think you can compare them to Rocky either as Rocky is a tackling and contested possession player - Murph & Beams are not at Rockies level in these areas IMO

I guess how much people value trades if they want to keep a sideways / slight upgrade option open to get Bont in is another factor
Flipside to this is if your not happy with Bonts output - its going to much easier to trade that player (theres 1 or 2 every year) in that has gone 120+ than try and trade that 120+ breakout in with a Murphy or Beams

I only want to be doing sideways trades on my failed cash cows - you know, the ones that sit on your bench (like Rioli from Richmond last year until Rd 18) doing absolutely stuff all whilst people are reaping the rewards on the ones you missed

Murphy and Beams are not bad alternatives by any means but I think Bont has more potential averaging more and being a keeper. Confidence is a major factor in player performance...Beams has a new coach as well so getting to know the gamestyle maybe an issue - Beams has an excuse or 2 to spud it up

It will be interesting to see if opposition let Beams and Murphy just do as they please, or they put a hard tag on them
It might be a case Beams and Murphy go real good at the start - then teams lock them down
Who knows......there is soo much risk in SC, there is also soo much luck, and if both work out then that's how you win I think

That's why I keep playing the stupid game and failing all the time - because I wont pick Beams or Murphy

[LordSneeze]

A totally different player to Murph & Beams IMO - Bont has the stature of Pendles & Fyfe - add JWatson into the big midfielder stereotype and it has been proven these blokes are hard to contain or match up on

Murph & Beams are also playing in teams that are going to get smashed every second week - much worse its fair to say than when they were scoring well a few years ago in a slightly more successful team and before injuries hit them both
I believe this will affect their scoring at some point...we cannot compare how Ablett scored at the suns - he is a one in a lifetime player
I don't think you can compare them to Rocky either as Rocky is a tackling and contested possession player - Murph & Beams are not at Rockies level in these areas IMO

I guess how much people value trades if they want to keep a sideways / slight upgrade option open to get Bont in is another factor
Flipside to this is if your not happy with Bonts output - its going to much easier to trade that player (theres 1 or 2 every year) in that has gone 120+ than try and trade that 120+ breakout in with a Murphy or Beams

I only want to be doing sideways trades on my failed cash cows - you know, the ones that sit on your bench (like Rioli from Richmond last year until Rd 18) doing absolutely stuff all whilst people are reaping the rewards on the ones you missed

Murphy and Beams are not bad alternatives by any means but I think Bont has more potential averaging more and being a keeper. Confidence is a major factor in player performance...Beams has a new coach as well so getting to know the gamestyle maybe an issue - Beams has an excuse or 2 to spud it up

It will be interesting to see if opposition let Beams and Murphy just do as they please, or they put a hard tag on them
It might be a case Beams and Murphy go real good at the start - then teams lock them down
Who knows......there is soo much risk in SC, there is also soo much luck, and if both work out then that's how you win I think

That's why I keep playing the stupid game and failing all the time - because I wont pick Beams or Murphy

I wouldn't be picking a Murphy or Beams over the Bont. At this stage i have Beams as i see value in his pick in isolation.
The question is do you pick the Bont over a person like Priddis, Sloane, Treloar etc. Rather than just pick the one you know and upgrade to the one thats unknown if he does breakout. to the 110+

There is a fan and media love affair with the Bont (somewhat understadibly) so knew he was always going to be hyped to the max and in alot of teams. I see it as a POD not starting him over a proven premium.

[fasttrack13]

Is he going to outscore: Danger, Pendles, Rockliff, Fyfe, Kennedy, Hannebery and even ablett? Probably not.

He's on that second tier: T.Mitch, Priddis, Gray, Cripps, Neale, Selwood, Coniglio, Ward, Treloar  (Guys who could go anywhere between 105-115)

Considering Rockliff, Fyfe and to an extent Pendlebury are underpriced... It allows you to afford danger and another of those "top" guys. As well as beams and murphy being available at m4/5 really don't see much point to selecting bont because you'd be sacrificing a sure thing for a maybe/maybe not

[Bully]

I'm focusing on Bont's performance from round 7 onwards.

140+ scores = 5

120-139 = 5

100-119 = 5

>99 = 5

If this form is replicated (and there's nothing to suggest he'll go backwards), he'll be comfortably averaging 110+. There's even a chance he lifts it up a notch. Bont is a big game player who seems to do better with the top teams. Just looking at his form against the finalists one can only be impressed.

vs Sydney (140)
vs Hawthorn (145)
vs North Melbourne (133)
vs West Coast (147)
vs Adelaide (149)
vs GWS (112)
vs Geelong (86)

*These are his highest scores.

So the draw poses few threats, it may even be an advantage. I'm all in this year.

[DaveElNacho]

At his price id much rather take the safe option for an extra 40k.
Undoubtably he has the potential to be one of the best SC players out there, but he still had 9 games under 100 last year and for me this is too many to be worth considering starting when you have so many other options that are more consistent.

Interesting to note that 5 of those games were in the first 6 rounds. Is there any information about an interrupted preseason last year?

[AaronKirk]

I brought him in as an upgrade early last year as a massive gamble and it paid off handsomely.

His better performances were against the better sides so the tougher draw has IMO is no issue for him.

He can go forward and kick goals when rested instead of going to the bench and all indicators are he should be improving.

Will try hard to squeeze him into my starting side.

The third man up rule changes do make him overpriced based on what his average would have been but he should easily overcome that.

[LordSneeze]

At his price id much rather take the safe option for an extra 40k.
Undoubtably he has the potential to be one of the best SC players out there, but he still had 9 games under 100 last year and for me this is too many to be worth considering starting when you have so many other options that are more consistent.

Interesting to note that 5 of those games were in the first 6 rounds. Is there any information about an interrupted preseason last year?

I do not remember of any issues in the preseason last year that would have resulted in a poor start.

Im still happy to let others take the risk starting him while I can grab him as an upgrade if he shows he can take that next step. IMO he is good and a good chance to become a top 10 mid, but he's being hyped way too much.

[fasttrack13]

At his price id much rather take the safe option for an extra 40k.
Undoubtably he has the potential to be one of the best SC players out there, but he still had 9 games under 100 last year and for me this is too many to be worth considering starting when you have so many other options that are more consistent.

Interesting to note that 5 of those games were in the first 6 rounds. Is there any information about an interrupted preseason last year?

Injuries through the midfied i'd say... bumped his points up. Was playing a lot up forward

[Gigantor]

At his price id much rather take the safe option for an extra 40k.
Undoubtably he has the potential to be one of the best SC players out there, but he still had 9 games under 100 last year and for me this is too many to be worth considering starting when you have so many other options that are more consistent.

Interesting to note that 5 of those games were in the first 6 rounds. Is there any information about an interrupted preseason last year?

Injuries through the midfied i'd say... bumped his points up. Was playing a lot up forward

This is my biggest issues with Bont, if Dahl, Macrae, Libba and Wallis are all fit will he be capable of getting to that 110 ave we all want

[crowls]

Don't see him going above 105.

mmm..... what is your reasoning wato.  Given age, size and likely natural progression in what areas is Bont going to score worse?

[GoLions]

Don't see him going above 105.

mmm..... what is your reasoning wato.  Given age, size and likely natural progression in what areas is Bont going to score worse?

3rd man up :P

[Holz]

Certainly want him but treloar and sloane are much safer picks. Bont has the heighest ceilinh with the ability to go 120+ which the others dont have but ill take the likely 110-115 from treloar sloane then the lilely 105-115 from bont with possible 120

[BomberSam]

I'm focusing on Bont's performance from round 7 onwards.

140+ scores = 5

120-139 = 5

100-119 = 5

>99 = 5

If this form is replicated (and there's nothing to suggest he'll go backwards), he'll be comfortably averaging 110+. There's even a chance he lifts it up a notch. Bont is a big game player who seems to do better with the top teams. Just looking at his form against the finalists one can only be impressed.

vs Sydney (140)
vs Hawthorn (145)
vs North Melbourne (133)
vs West Coast (147)
vs Adelaide (149)
vs GWS (112)
vs Geelong (86)

*These are his highest scores.

So the draw poses few threats, it may even be an advantage. I'm all in this year.

Very nice breakdown, thanks Bully.

[meow meow]

At his price id much rather take the safe option for an extra 40k.
Undoubtably he has the potential to be one of the best SC players out there, but he still had 9 games under 100 last year and for me this is too many to be worth considering starting when you have so many other options that are more consistent.

Interesting to note that 5 of those games were in the first 6 rounds. Is there any information about an interrupted preseason last year?

He had knee surgery post season and was on a modified program during preseason.

[juzztheball]

Anyone with the argument of him not racking up enough disposals is crazy, if someone has the ability to score 140 from 18 posessions are they not the men you want in your side? M Boyd, Swanny and Mitchell used to rack up 40 disposals for 90-110 points week in, week out due to their lack of metres gained, ineffective disposals, handball to kick ratio and lack of goals. Bontempelli ticks all of those boxes.

The kid is a flowering superstar, and i hope all of you start Sloane ahead of him 8)