Trust The Process

Started by Mat0369, December 08, 2016, 01:58:39 AM

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Mat0369

New structure I am playing around with

Doc, Adams, Hampton, Keefe, Vickers-Willis, Newman, Sheehan, Stewart
Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Sloane, Fyfe, Murphy, O'Meara, Swallow, McCluggage, Bowes, Powell-Pepper
Goldy, Sandi, Witts
Dahl, Macrae, Roughy, Ainsworth, Turner, Black, Pickett, Eddy

140k in the bank.

I will likely have to trade out O'Meara/Swallow and maybe Sandi down the track, but they are ideal stepping stones in lines where it can be difficult to generate cash this season. This will also allow me to generate as much cash as possible by loading up on rookies  looking at the lines where there appear to be a decent chunk available.

mattttwillll

Good looking team. However, downgrade Witts to a rookie ruck then upgrade Murphy to an extra premium mid. Also McCluggage is a hefty price tag sitting on the bench.

Bully

Not sure Ainsworth can be justified & you seem to have a lot of extra cash on the mid bench. I'd try and get another premo defender in there. 

How about Ainsworth to Schoenmakers & McCluggage to Hibberd. That brings the bank balance to 260k and puts you in the market for Bob Murphy or Hamish Hartlett. If you can find another 100k look at Laird.

Mat0369

Quote from: mattttwillll on February 26, 2017, 10:06:23 PM
Good looking team. However, downgrade Witts to a rookie ruck then upgrade Murphy to an extra premium mid. Also McCluggage is a hefty price tag sitting on the bench.

The idea behind McClugg on the bench is the lack of mid rookies and he is one to play. You could actually swing him into the forward line for Pickett so I have him starting on the field with Pickett on my mid bench.

I'm keeping Witts until after the 3rd pre-season game. If there looks to be a cheaper ruck that will play I will slot them in, if not, then I will roll with Witts if he is getting a game. It's easier to downgrade then find cash for someone.

Marc Murphy is staying in my side, he is way under priced for what he is capable of and he is heading into the season injury free for the first time in years.

Quote from: Bully on February 27, 2017, 12:39:22 AM
Not sure Ainsworth can be justified & you seem to have a lot of extra cash on the mid bench. I'd try and get another premo defender in there. 

How about Ainsworth to Schoenmakers & McCluggage to Hibberd. That brings the bank balance to 260k and puts you in the market for Bob Murphy or Hamish Hartlett. If you can find another 100k look at Laird.

The idea of the structure is to go with two premiums down back and a ton of rookies. I had Bob in my last team draft so I want to see what this one looks like loading up on rookies down back. I can probably fork out the cash to turn Swallow into another premium mid but I have no idea who.

I'm happy to back Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Sloane and Fyfe to be top 15. After that I'm either in bye hell (JPK/Parker), they have question marks (Rockliff) or they aren't good enough to be in the elite category this season (Sam Mitchell/Priddis)

I'm also keeping Ainsworth as a place holder, he looked good against Essendon and I prefer him a hell of a lot more to Schoenmakers. If anything I would swing McCluggage forward and turn Ainsworth into Hibberd.

I tried another lineup where I brought in Preuss and turned Goldy into Gawn. I'll play around with the structures a bit more in the week and see what I start to like.

Mat0369

Quick redraft

Doc, Adams, Hampton, Keefe, Vickers-Willis, Newman, Sheehan, Stewart
Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Joel Selwood, Sloane, Fyfe, Murphy, O'Meara, Hibberd, Bowes, Powell-Pepper
Goldy, Sandi, Preuss
Dahl, Macrae, Roughy, Turner, Black, Begley, Pickett, Eddy

$67,800 spare change.

eaglesman

I just posted on bullys thread that I don't like Marc Murphy.

Why do you like him so much?

Imo he is easily nullified by opposition taggers. Can't tag Cripps. And he is easy to shut out that Gibbs. Capable of plenty I agree but chuck a player on him and he just gives ya donuts.

Would love to be convinced otherwise because like you said his full fitness gives him some appeal?

As for your team it's solid and on trend with all the other teams on here. Kayne Turner will score poorly though and isn't worth a pick imo but I guess he is just a placeholder

Mat0369

Quote from: eaglesman on February 27, 2017, 11:13:57 PM
I just posted on bullys thread that I don't like Marc Murphy.

Why do you like him so much?

Imo he is easily nullified by opposition taggers. Can't tag Cripps. And he is easy to shut out that Gibbs. Capable of plenty I agree but chuck a player on him and he just gives ya donuts.

Would love to be convinced otherwise because like you said his full fitness gives him some appeal?

As for your team it's solid and on trend with all the other teams on here. Kayne Turner will score poorly though and isn't worth a pick imo but I guess he is just a placeholder

First thing, the fact he gets tagged out is a myth. I have posted this in a number of threads, the games he was tagged he was getting a bunch of the pill. Ben Jacobs is probably looked at as the best tagger going around right now, the last time Murphy was tagged by him he had 26 touches, 1 goal and 117 SC points. He was tagged twice last year. Once against the Pies (24 touches and a goal for 90 SC) and once against the Dons by Crowley (26 touches and a goal for 100 SC). His two really poor scores he was injured in both games. The Dogs he had gastro and then had a head knock which opened him up, in the game against the Cats he had 2 touches and a goal before injuring his ankle (and that was early in the game while being tagged by Guthrie). Plus teams are rarely tagging now anyway so this has no relevance.

I have a list of pros and cons a page back, the main worry I have with him is will he play an outside role this year or will he go back to playing on the inside. The outside role saw his scores drop in some games last year because his contested possession count was down. I read this quote which has pretty much made him a lock for me.

QuoteLingering shoulder concerns meant Murphy played more of an outside midfielder role early last season, but having overcome those issues, Murphy flagged not only more time as an inside midfielder, but also rests closer to goal.

"Certainly this year I've done a lot of training inside so I'll play a lot inside mid, filter on a wing, and then also go deep forward as well," Murphy told RSN on Tuesday.

It means he should see a spike in contested possessions and a spike in his scoring. You're paying 430k for a guy that will go 105ish and I'll take that.

Bully

Agree with the sentiments re. Murphy. Even last year he was serviceable once you discount his injury affected games.

eaglesman

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2017, 12:11:35 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on February 27, 2017, 11:13:57 PM
I just posted on bullys thread that I don't like Marc Murphy.

Why do you like him so much?

Imo he is easily nullified by opposition taggers. Can't tag Cripps. And he is easy to shut out that Gibbs. Capable of plenty I agree but chuck a player on him and he just gives ya donuts.

Would love to be convinced otherwise because like you said his full fitness gives him some appeal?

As for your team it's solid and on trend with all the other teams on here. Kayne Turner will score poorly though and isn't worth a pick imo but I guess he is just a placeholder

First thing, the fact he gets tagged out is a myth. I have posted this in a number of threads, the games he was tagged he was getting a bunch of the pill. Ben Jacobs is probably looked at as the best tagger going around right now, the last time Murphy was tagged by him he had 26 touches, 1 goal and 117 SC points. He was tagged twice last year. Once against the Pies (24 touches and a goal for 90 SC) and once against the Dons by Crowley (26 touches and a goal for 100 SC). His two really poor scores he was injured in both games. The Dogs he had gastro and then had a head knock which opened him up, in the game against the Cats he had 2 touches and a goal before injuring his ankle (and that was early in the game while being tagged by Guthrie). Plus teams are rarely tagging now anyway so this has no relevance.

I have a list of pros and cons a page back, the main worry I have with him is will he play an outside role this year or will he go back to playing on the inside. The outside role saw his scores drop in some games last year because his contested possession count was down. I read this quote which has pretty much made him a lock for me.

QuoteLingering shoulder concerns meant Murphy played more of an outside midfielder role early last season, but having overcome those issues, Murphy flagged not only more time as an inside midfielder, but also rests closer to goal.

"Certainly this year I've done a lot of training inside so I'll play a lot inside mid, filter on a wing, and then also go deep forward as well," Murphy told RSN on Tuesday.

It means he should see a spike in contested possessions and a spike in his scoring. You're paying 430k for a guy that will go 105ish and I'll take that.

Gee hard to argue with that argument. Although I don't necessarily agree about the myth for the tag as have seen it with my own eyes.

I'll have to watch him closely again. I would prefer beams but if he ain't right Murphy is easy replacement.

Mat0369

I did a bit of tinkering. I'm pretty screwed for cash and wanted Marchbank. That's put me in a bigger hole. This is the resulting team which I'm not upset with.

Doc, Adams, Marchbank, Hampton, Hibberd, Vickers-Willis, Otten, Stewart
Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Selwood, Sloane, Fyfe, Murphy, O'Meara, Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Pickett
Goldy, Sandi, Preuss
Dahl, Macrae, Roughy, Boes, Schoey, Black, Cameron, Eddy

3k in the bank

Ideally I'd like to get Taranto into my forward line but I'm short on cash. I would have to downgrade either Sloane to Beams or Murphy to Swallow.

Ringo

Can you get Taranto in if you go O'Meara to Swallow. In my opinion of the Beams, O'Meara, Swallow trio O'Meara carries the most risk of injury.  (Biased on Beams of course).  Go with gut of course Matt

Mat0369

Quote from: Ringo on March 07, 2017, 09:55:45 PM
Can you get Taranto in if you go O'Meara to Swallow. In my opinion of the Beams, O'Meara, Swallow trio O'Meara carries the most risk of injury.  (Biased on Beams of course).  Go with gut of course Matt

I would need enough cash to turn Black to Taranto so I can check it out.

I rather O'Meara after Swallow. I actually had Murphy, O'Meara, Swallow before I found a nice chunk of change and was able to turn Swallow into Selwood.

The way I see it Swallow carries as much a risk as O'Meara and looking at bye situations and averages I think I'd rather The Bomb. Here is my basic reasoning

*Swallow has that weird bye week which means I would have to upgrade him then and go to a go that I'm going to be missing down the track. O'Meara has the last bye so if he can last until then he is the perfect stepping stone allowing me to turn him into the best available mid without losing out on bye weeks.

*Scoring patterns. While Swallow averaged more in his breakout season, it's not that much better then O'Meara's second year. I'm not expecting them both to come out and average 100, in fact I see them both going maybe 95, but I think O'Meara is less likely to put up a clunker.



Mat0369

Just had a look and I'm still about 60k short with O'Meara to Swallow. It's looking like if I want to grab Taranto it would have to be Sloane to Beams or Murphy to Swallow So basically it's these combos

Beams, Murphy, O'Meara, Taranto + 90k in cash

Sloane, Swallow, O'Meara, Taranto + 85k in cash

Sloane, Murphy, O'Meara, Black +3k in cash

Mat0369

I've made some changes and reverted to some players I had in my older sides.

Doc, Shaw, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten, Stewart, Hibberd, Vickers-Willis
Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Swallow, Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Pickett
Godly, Sandi, Witts
Dahl, Macrae, Roughy, Hoskin-Elliot, Taranto, Turner, Parfitt, Eddy

I have brought Witts back into R3. I'm not certain if Cameron will get a game so it will be between Witts and Preuss for R3. I'm going with the more expensive as a place holder at the moment.

I've brought in Shaw for Adams. While I think Adams has greater scope for improvement in his scores I don't trust him to stay healthy. He has already had two niggles in the pre-season so that's a red flag and he is out for the time being. Shaw seems pretty safe to be in the top handful of defenders so I've locked him in. The other guy I am considering is Simmo.

I've also spent a bit more cash on the forward rookies. Hoskin-Elliot and Taranto are in, Turner has good JS so he is also in and then I have gone Parfitt and Eddy on the bench. To get the cash I needed to turn Sloane into Swallow. I initially wanted to turn him into Beams but I needed more cash so Swallow it is.

I also had to make a decision between Beams and Murphy. I realllllyyyyy want Murphy in my team. He is going to have a really good year, the thing is Beams manged to get through 2 JLT games and he could go 120 on the season where Murphy could go 110. The other option is to downgrade Swallow to a rookie and start Murphy instead of O'Meara.

Gigantor

I like this setup, I'm rolling with something similar, 10 premos, 5 discounted midpricers and some expensive rookies

It's funny to think if we presented a team like this in previous year we would have been ridiculed :) "10 premo's! you are kidding mate, gonna need at least 12!"