Trust The Process

Started by Mat0369, December 08, 2016, 01:58:39 AM

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Mat0369

I have just thrown together a quick side. Only one speculative pick and that is in the forward line. I'ts likely to change up anyway but here is what I have for now

Doc, Simmo, Taylor Adams, Michael Hibberd, McGrath, Berry, Mitch Hibberd, Macreadie
Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, Beams, Murphy, Swallow, Brodie, Myers, Freeman, Fisher, Graham
Gawn, Sandi, Witts
Macrae, Miller, Bennell, Roughy, Thomas, Matt White, James Stewart, Pickett

I have picked some pricey rookies as place holders. The speculative pick is Touk Miller who should see more midfield time and push for a 90 average. With the current crop of forwards that should make him top 10. If Bennell doesn't look flash I will probably downgrade Bennell and upgrade Touk.

I currently have Simmo and Doc but will probably only start one due to byes. Taylor Adams looks like he could be a ripping pick, I never thought he would have DPP as a defender. He can butcher the pill but he makes up for it with tackles and contested possessions.

Fyfe is cheaper then I thought even with no discount, I have to start him at that price, same goes with Beams, Murphy and Swallow.

Witts looks like decent cover at a reasonable price as well.

GoLions

Yeah at this stage I'll be starting Touk as well. Think he should easily score at an 85-90avg, possibly even push for 100 if he gets decent minutes through the mids!

Ringo

Just a suggestion though = Would move one of McGrath or Berry to a mid rookie and bring in another derf rookie gives you that DPP to assist through out the season.

Fwds a bit of risk but you are aware of that,

Mat0369

I'm not too fussed with rookies, we just need to see who plays round 1 and load up. There is a likely chance neither are in my team round 1 so I just grabbed  a couple of pricey placeholders. We probably also don't need the DPP link until a bit later in the season for MF and MB because of the early culling that tends to take place anyway.

uncleswagy

witts is too expensive to be leaving on the bench for mine as i dont see him being a good cash cow, if your looking for cover for injury in the ruck id suggest putting a cheap fwd dpp rookie on the ruck bench and bringing patty ryder into your team down forward. can use said rookie as a loophole option too

fasttrack13

Question mark having the two most expensive defenders... They have the first "big" bye round and will certainly be significantly discounted by then. I also doubt they'll maintain their averages with docherty probably being more likely to drop.

Witts is actually a smart pick considering your ruck structure w/o a fwd/ruc to back him up.

Roughead and Bennell are probably a little risky for mine, but as it happens i really do want to sneak bennell into my team

john23132

Why do you think Miller will see more midfield minutes mate?

Mat0369

I didn't actually expect to see this thread bumped since my last post was early December

I'll post my updated team after the responses to you guys and the reasons for my changes.

Quote from: uncleswagy on January 29, 2017, 06:25:42 PM
witts is too expensive to be leaving on the bench for mine as i dont see him being a good cash cow, if your looking for cover for injury in the ruck id suggest putting a cheap fwd dpp rookie on the ruck bench and bringing patty ryder into your team down forward. can use said rookie as a loophole option too

The thing is I might be forking out the extra 100k for Witts, but I'm paying for the security of having a bench ruck that should earn some coin. So the extra I am paying I should make back through price rises. I know people like to use their ruck for loophole purposes but I see the value in getting as much cash out of someone like Witts as possible. We also don't know how Ryder will perform after the layoff and Witts is 200k cheaper. If Witts isn't named round 1 that's a different story. Then I will re-evaluate and likely play Russian roulette with my rucks unless someone else is named.

Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 29, 2017, 06:41:45 PM
Question mark having the two most expensive defenders... They have the first "big" bye round and will certainly be significantly discounted by then. I also doubt they'll maintain their averages with docherty probably being more likely to drop.

Witts is actually a smart pick considering your ruck structure w/o a fwd/ruc to back him up.

Roughead and Bennell are probably a little risky for mine, but as it happens i really do want to sneak bennell into my team

The way Carlton set up down back both should get a crap ton of pill and rebound. Simmo is super consistent every year and Doc is an All-Australian caliber player. My issue is both having the same bye being in the same team, I figured I'm better off having both as place holders since it's easier to downgrade then find the cash for them. In my next team I took out Simmo but I also ended up with a guy on the same bye not realising   :P

Sort of the same deal with Roughy and Bennell, if both are good to go round 1 it seems a no brainer, I'm not sure if Bennell will be ready so I've already removed him.

Quote from: john23132 on January 29, 2017, 09:59:59 PM
Why do you think Miller will see more midfield minutes mate?

Touk started getting more midfield minutes in his first season and if my memory is correct he had a niggle last pre-season meaning he had to be eased back in. Towards the end of the year he started getting those minutes again. With another pre-season it should see him be able to run out games without a worry. The Gold Coast midfield isn't exactly the healthiest going around so there is opportunity there. It also seems like natural progression that he would spend more time around the middle of the ground in his 3rd season considering he was drafted as a midfielder.

My new team

Doc, Joey, Adams, Hibberd, McGrath, Berry, Keefe, Hibberd
Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, Beams, Murphy, Swallow, Brodie, Myers, Freeman, Fisher, Graham
Gawn, Sandi, Witts
Dahl, Macrae, Roughy, McCluggage, White, Thomas, Stewart, Pickett

Basically decided to downgrade Simmo, then realised Joey has the same bye so that needs to be adjusted. I also downgraded Bennell and upgraded Touk. It seems stupid to not have Macrae and Dahl in my team since they could be full time midfielders.

tommy10

Berry has a knee injury and out for 6 weeks, so will be touch and go for round 1. Watch closely. Your mids are a little weak, so would downgrade Hibbo and upgrade Murphy to JPK, Rocky etc

uncleswagy

fair points about witts but the point raised to me about him the other night was is he even in the best 22? surely tom nicholls still holds down the number 1 ruck spot and does witts fit into that forward line? guess we'll just have to wait till round 1 to find out

GoLions

Quote from: uncleswagy on February 03, 2017, 04:21:17 PM
fair points about witts but the point raised to me about him the other night was is he even in the best 22? surely tom nicholls still holds down the number 1 ruck spot and does witts fit into that forward line? guess we'll just have to wait till round 1 to find out
Personally, I don't think he does.

Mat0369

Quote from: tommy10 on February 03, 2017, 10:28:01 AM
Berry has a knee injury and out for 6 weeks, so will be touch and go for round 1. Watch closely. Your mids are a little weak, so would downgrade Hibbo and upgrade Murphy to JPK, Rocky etc

Rookies are all place holders. If I do an upgrade in the mids it would likely be swapping Joey out and bringing in Hanners. I'm not touching JPK or Rockliff. Beams would be leaving my team before Murphy as well Murphy is pretty much locked in unless he gets injured before round 1.

Quote from: uncleswagy on February 03, 2017, 04:21:17 PM
fair points about witts but the point raised to me about him the other night was is he even in the best 22? surely tom nicholls still holds down the number 1 ruck spot and does witts fit into that forward line? guess we'll just have to wait till round 1 to find out

Tom Nicholls is guaranteed to get injured at some point. They wouldn't have brought in Witts if they didn't intend to use him. I did say the same thing about Currie last year, however when Currie finally broke in it took a broken finger for him to drop out of the 22.

GoLions

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 03, 2017, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: uncleswagy on February 03, 2017, 04:21:17 PM
fair points about witts but the point raised to me about him the other night was is he even in the best 22? surely tom nicholls still holds down the number 1 ruck spot and does witts fit into that forward line? guess we'll just have to wait till round 1 to find out

Tom Nicholls is guaranteed to get injured at some point. They wouldn't have brought in Witts if they didn't intend to use him. I did say the same thing about Currie last year, however when Currie finally broke in it took a broken finger for him to drop out of the 22.
But also this :P

However I reckon if Nicholls gets injured, they may play both of Currie/Witts (providing Currie isn't also injured as well aha).

uncleswagy

Quote from: GoLions on February 03, 2017, 06:39:04 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 03, 2017, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: uncleswagy on February 03, 2017, 04:21:17 PM
fair points about witts but the point raised to me about him the other night was is he even in the best 22? surely tom nicholls still holds down the number 1 ruck spot and does witts fit into that forward line? guess we'll just have to wait till round 1 to find out

Tom Nicholls is guaranteed to get injured at some point. They wouldn't have brought in Witts if they didn't intend to use him. I did say the same thing about Currie last year, however when Currie finally broke in it took a broken finger for him to drop out of the 22.
But also this :P

However I reckon if Nicholls gets injured, they may play both of Currie/Witts (providing Currie isn't also injured as well aha).

yeah i agree that he probably will get injured at some point, but do you want to leave 200k on your bench for 10 weeks potentially not playing as cover for another injury prone player? back to the original point, better off having ryder as a forward swing or not going sandi at all for me

or tim english(130k) on the bench if hes playing round 1..

Gandalf123

What are you expecting out of Murph?