Lord Sneeze - Team Diary

Started by LordSneeze, December 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM

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LordSneeze

Oh the wonders of the start of the season.
Currently i have only put placeholder rookies in, so i will not put the names here so not to confuse

Lets get this started
$67,500 left in the bank

Defence
Shaw - Rance - Laird - Rookie - Rookie - Rookie (Rookie - Rookie)

Mids
Dangerfield - Hannebery - Pendlebury - Fyfe - Beams - Swallow - Rookie - Rookie (Rookie - Rookie - Rookie)

Rucks
Gawn - Goldy (Rookie)

Forwards
Dahlhaus - Franklin - Macrae - Rookie - Rookie - Rookie (Rookie - Rookie)

Comments
The plan is to go guns and rookies this year. I tried to use some breakout players last year and it was thrown back in my face.
If i need cash to fit all the required rookies or another premium in Fwd or Defence then one Pendles, Hanners, Fyfe or Beams is likely downgraded to allow that to happen.

Defence - 3 expected top 10 premiums. Outside the top 10 it is really a throw a dart at the dartboard blindfolded and hope for a bullseye.  Shaw is a lock at his price, Rance is consistent and top 10 and Laird has the potential to do a Docherty this year IMO, yet worst case he is still a 90+ average and a top 10 defender.

Mids - Danger, Fyfe and Beams pick themselves for me. The other 2 could be any of about 10 players, went pendlebury due to his durability and overall consistency in scoring and Hannebery as i expect him to be the one that has the room for improvement in the Sydney Midfield. Swallow is my only mid price pick.

Rucks - 2 Guns, lock and Load. Going a mid price or breakout contender here always seems to cause me more trouble than its good for. Sandi would be the only option id consider, but he is at that really awkward 300k price that need a 100 average to provide any meaningful cash generation.

Forwards - Again taking 3 top 10 players allowing me time to see who i should be trading in.

crowls

Well thought out structure LS.   Agree on GNR approach.    As usual selecting reliable backs outside of top of couple players is a lottery.


Did a team today made up of returning injured prems and it is an exciting team.   Tempted to go this route though reality will set in by NAB cup time.


Have a great season

Ringo

Nice Structure as usual LS.

Agree to disagree with you on Sandi as he can easily average 100+ Even last year in 2 out of 4 games went over 100 and in 2014 and 2015 where he played 21 games each season averaged 108 and 107.8 respectively.

crowls

Quote from: Ringo on December 07, 2016, 02:16:36 PM
Nice Structure as usual LS.

Agree to disagree with you on Sandi as he can easily average 100+ Even last year in 2 out of 4 games went over 100 and in 2014 and 2015 where he played 21 games each season averaged 108 and 107.8 respectively.
With you on this Ringo.     Going to get Goldy or Martin at best type scoring for a saving of 300k.  Issue is where to go if he breaks down.    Unless you keep the 300k in the bank to get in a gawn/goldy replacement which defeats the purpose.    Best case scenario would be avg 100k for first 8 rounds,  Gawn/Gold have a couple of shockers and drop 50-80k and you swap them out around Round 9/10

LordSneeze

Quote from: crowls on December 07, 2016, 02:28:30 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 07, 2016, 02:16:36 PM
Nice Structure as usual LS.

Agree to disagree with you on Sandi as he can easily average 100+ Even last year in 2 out of 4 games went over 100 and in 2014 and 2015 where he played 21 games each season averaged 108 and 107.8 respectively.
With you on this Ringo.     Going to get Goldy or Martin at best type scoring for a saving of 300k.  Issue is where to go if he breaks down.    Unless you keep the 300k in the bank to get in a gawn/goldy replacement which defeats the purpose.    Best case scenario would be avg 100k for first 8 rounds,  Gawn/Gold have a couple of shockers and drop 50-80k and you swap them out around Round 9/10
That's the biggest concern for me. What do I do if he breaks down as I don't see the Fwd cover as an option and no other options around that price for a sideways that I feel have any real potential.
His best case is you gain some cash without losing too many points and you can then sideways to the uber prem, worst case is  he gets injured, you get stuck losing points, trades and cash having to work a way getting him in.
I just don't see the upside in picking him over a premium, but rather taking the risk on a different line where there are options to sideways or downgrade if needed.

GoLions

Quote from: LordSneeze on December 07, 2016, 03:00:43 PM
Quote from: crowls on December 07, 2016, 02:28:30 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 07, 2016, 02:16:36 PM
Nice Structure as usual LS.

Agree to disagree with you on Sandi as he can easily average 100+ Even last year in 2 out of 4 games went over 100 and in 2014 and 2015 where he played 21 games each season averaged 108 and 107.8 respectively.
With you on this Ringo.     Going to get Goldy or Martin at best type scoring for a saving of 300k.  Issue is where to go if he breaks down.    Unless you keep the 300k in the bank to get in a gawn/goldy replacement which defeats the purpose.    Best case scenario would be avg 100k for first 8 rounds,  Gawn/Gold have a couple of shockers and drop 50-80k and you swap them out around Round 9/10
That's the biggest concern for me. What do I do if he breaks down as I don't see the Fwd cover as an option and no other options around that price for a sideways that I feel have any real potential.
His best case is you gain some cash without losing too many points and you can then sideways to the uber prem, worst case is  he gets injured, you get stuck losing points, trades and cash having to work a way getting him in.
I just don't see the upside in picking him over a premium, but rather taking the risk on a different line where there are options to sideways or downgrade if needed.
Yeah this is the only thing with Sandi, not really anyone else to sideways him to if he breaks down. I'm also not a fan of the Ryder pick, so wouldn't have any cover up forward to swing into the rucks. Gawn and Goldy locked for me atm :)

LordSneeze



So first full run at a team and surprisingly i have gone with a team that is very similar to my first attempt. $45k in bank

Ive gone expensive rookies so i know i have the cash to downgrade them as options become more known, i can then upgrade as required. Sandi im looking at you.

Def - Shaw is a lock for me, as is Laird given his upside over Rance. Vince is my POD as with Hibberd coming into the Melbourne team we could see him move back into the midfield rotation, he pulled some small numbers at the end of las year, but he was playing injured.

Mids - The exact same setup. Danger Lock, Pendles Lock, Hanners/JPK/Sloane lock, Fyfe Lock, Beams Lock, Swallow Lock.

Rucks - Gawn Lock, wanted Goldy as R2 but salary cap made it difficult to do that and run both Beams and Swallow, If the rookies are there and i can downgrade some come R1 Sandi is the likely upgrade option.

Fwds - Dahl lock, Macrae Lock. Franklin could have been any of 5-6 players but feel he has the history behind him, plus the scope for improvement. Decided against Roughy at this stage something that could be changed in that F4 spot given rookie movement, but really i don't think he will go 90+ and become a premium, so might gain enough cash to cover the difference and gain the points in having the stronger rookies.

Ringo

Nice Team and Structure LS.

Just one question any reason why you have not gone Strnadica over Buzza as R3. Saves you 20k and perfect VC Loophole with Freo playing 14 Saturday Night/Sunday games.

The one concern I would have is the Canon as he has not shown enough to indicate a return to 2013 form.

LordSneeze

Quote from: Ringo on January 26, 2017, 11:00:19 PM
Nice Team and Structure LS.

Just one question any reason why you have not gone Strnadica over Buzza as R3. Saves you 20k and perfect VC Loophole with Freo playing 14 Saturday Night/Sunday games.

The one concern I would have is the Canon as he has not shown enough to indicate a return to 2013 form.

I just grabbed a random rookie for the bench, didn't bother looking into who i wanted in that spot.

Canon ive put more as a placeholder that ill keep my eye on than anything else. With Malceski retiring with whom it coincided with his drop in scoring the belief is he move back into the plus 1 and linkup player. Saad and KK providing the run and Canon providing the penetration. I would only need a 70-75 average up until R9 for that pick to be successful.

Ringo

Quote from: LordSneeze on January 26, 2017, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 26, 2017, 11:00:19 PM
Nice Team and Structure LS.

Just one question any reason why you have not gone Strnadica over Buzza as R3. Saves you 20k and perfect VC Loophole with Freo playing 14 Saturday Night/Sunday games.

The one concern I would have is the Canon as he has not shown enough to indicate a return to 2013 form.

I just grabbed a random rookie for the bench, didn't bother looking into who i wanted in that spot.

Canon ive put more as a placeholder that ill keep my eye on than anything else. With Malceski retiring with whom it coincided with his drop in scoring the belief is he move back into the plus 1 and linkup player. Saad and KK providing the run and Canon providing the penetration. I would only need a 70-75 average up until R9 for that pick to be successful.
Not concerned they may run Hanley of HB which may be possible. Probably need to watch how the Suns line up for final JLT game as that is  an indication of where they will play.

LordSneeze

Quote from: Ringo on January 26, 2017, 11:38:03 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on January 26, 2017, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 26, 2017, 11:00:19 PM
Nice Team and Structure LS.

Just one question any reason why you have not gone Strnadica over Buzza as R3. Saves you 20k and perfect VC Loophole with Freo playing 14 Saturday Night/Sunday games.

The one concern I would have is the Canon as he has not shown enough to indicate a return to 2013 form.

I just grabbed a random rookie for the bench, didn't bother looking into who i wanted in that spot.

Canon ive put more as a placeholder that ill keep my eye on than anything else. With Malceski retiring with whom it coincided with his drop in scoring the belief is he move back into the plus 1 and linkup player. Saad and KK providing the run and Canon providing the penetration. I would only need a 70-75 average up until R9 for that pick to be successful.
Not concerned they may run Hanley of HB which may be possible. Probably need to watch how the Suns line up for final JLT game as that is  an indication of where they will play.
Yeah which is why its more of a placeholder than anything else at this stage. Definetly want to see what role they have him playing, i just hope he doesn't come out with multiple big scores as he is off the rader of alot of people.
At his price though i see him as a possible risk worth taking if he looks like possibly getting that role, if all else fails i can just move him to the bench.

LordSneeze

Only 1 more change has been made.

Franklin to Lids.

Yes Lids has had multiple injury concerns over the last 3 years, but he had only missed 9 games in 10 years up until that point. All signs are pointing towards a full preseason and with his history if he is fit you almost have to start him, I don't want to not have him, he starts with a 110 average and he becomes difficult to bring in. Talk is he will be starting in the mids aswell.

I see this as a better risk than any of the mid price options who could fail and leave a very difficult position, where if Lids does you just downgrade to the breakout player.

GoLions

I think the issue with Lids is that they never ruled him out for like, 3+ weeks. Always "a week or two" which would turn into flowering forever :P

LordSneeze

Quote from: GoLions on February 03, 2017, 06:04:02 PM
I think the issue with Lids is that they never ruled him out for like, 3+ weeks. Always "a week or two" which would turn into flowering forever :P

Different club, different city.

Lids came out publically and stated after moving he was losing the passion for the game at Richmond. I feel this could have been part of that longer return from injury.

With the lack of confidence in the forwards if he is named R1 it is very unlikely I don't start with him, which means I start 3 forward prems.
Really it comes down to rookies though, but if all fit I cannot split Dahl, Macrae and Lids. No-one else is even on my radar to start anymore.

LordSneeze

Just did some playing around. Not saved as I have no intention of doing this, but a team without 2 of the 3 big mids. To do it I dropped Lids to a rookie aswell, which I will likely end up doing anyway. This will allow me to go Rookie to O'Meara/Beams to Priddis & Sandi to Prem Ruck.

Points are expected averages, rookies are set figures of 65 def, 75 mids, 65 fwd
I also didn't adjust to the best rookies

Def - Shaw (100), Laird (95), Vince (90), Scharenberg (65), Hampton(65), Glass-Mckasker (65) (Newman, Stewart) Total = 480
Mids - Hanners (115), Priddis (110), Fyfe (110), Heppell (105), Beams (105), Murphy (105), Omeara (95), Swallow (90) (Thomas, Powell, Graham) Total = 835
Rucks - Gawn (110), Goldy (110) (Strandeca) Total = 220
Fwds - Dahl (100), Macrae (95), Mccarthy (65), Mccluggage (65), White (65), Shoey (65) (Black, Pickett) Total = 455

Total Expected average = 1990

Compared to my previous option

Def - Shaw (100), Laird (95), Vince (90), Scharenberg (65), Hampton (65), Mckenzie (65) (Glass-Mckasker , Stewart) Total = 480
Mids - Danger (125), Pendles (115), Hanners (115), Fyfe (110), Beams (105), Swallow (90), Mcgrath (75), Myers (75) (Thomas, Powell, Graham) Total = 810
Rucks - Gawn (110), Sandi (95) (Strandeca) Total = 205
Fwd - Dahl (100), Macrae (95), Lids (100), Mccarthy (65), Mccluggage (65), White (65) (Black, Pickett) Total = 490

Total Expected average = 1985

So starting a Midprice midfield to me doesn't appear to have that much benefit longer term. You have more players with a higher average starting, but your missing the big boys who are harder to get in and the larger cash generation of the rookies. Meaning your likely to gains small to start and get overrun come mid season.