RD's 2017 Team Thread

Started by RaisyDaisy, December 06, 2016, 11:39:10 PM

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RaisyDaisy

Not sure why I am bothering so far out lol but I couldn't help myself  :P

If anything, it's always good to look back at this come Round 1 to see how different my Rd1 side actually looks to this  ;D

DEF: Heath Shaw, Tom McDonald, Hamish Hartlett, Andy McGrath, Lachlan Keeffe, Jarrod Berry (Luke Ryan, Tom Stewart)

MID: Patrick Dangerfield, Scott Pendlebury, Josh Kennedy, Marcus Bontempelli, Nat Fyfe, Dayne Beams, David Swallow, David Myers (Sam Powell-Pepper, Jarrod Pickett, Jack Graham)

RUC: Max Gawn, Aaron Sandilands (Darcy Cameron)

FWD: Luke Dahlhaus, Jack Macrae, Paddy Ryder, Jarryd Roughead, Aaron Black, Willem Drew (Shai Bolton, Brett Eddy)

$35,100

Taylor Adams, Todd Goldstein and GAJ under consideration too, but I like the look of this for now. McGrath the only expensive rookie, but his JS and ability allows me to start light down back

LordSneeze

Super stong mids, but really risky on all other lines.

RaisyDaisy

Is it really risky though?

I think the likes of Paddy and Rough appear risky because they have missed footy and are cheap, but they didn't miss through injury and are proven. Besides Dahl and Macrae, I don't like any of the other forwards as starters so happy to go with the value of Ryder and Rough

Sandi came back after missing a year to average 108, and Ryder is cover

Shaw and TMac are rock solid, so yes I would agree the backline is light, but the other lines are fine IMO

I can see how it "looks" risky, but when you think about it I don't think it actually is


GoLions

Quote from: LordSneeze on December 06, 2016, 11:59:34 PM
Super stong mids, but really risky on all other lines.
If anything, I'd say the mids are the riskiest. Doesn't even have the goat. Smh.

LordSneeze

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 07, 2016, 12:06:20 AM
Is it really risky though?

I think the likes of Paddy and Rough appear risky because they have missed footy and are cheap, but they didn't miss through injury and are proven. Besides Dahl and Macrae, I don't like any of the other forwards as starters so happy to go with the value of Ryder and Rough

Sandi came back after missing a year to average 108, and Ryder is cover

Shaw and TMac are rock solid, so yes I would agree the backline is light, but the other lines are fine IMO

I can see how it "looks" risky, but when you think about it I don't think it actually is

I just see a lot of risks in the team.
Macca I see as a risk (He burnt me really badly last year), Hartlett I don't rate as a premium defender + 3 rookies.
Mids I can't fault on the players you picked, however by running so deep it limits the ability to bring in the premiums who perform above expectations.
Sandi is a risk, I understand you picked Ryder as a BU, but I really dislike this option. Ive looked into Ryder and do not see him as a good pick by himself in either position so I don't see the value in picking himt o cover both. If he was going to be a top 10-15 forward then id say go for it, but im thinking 30ish is more like it.
Roughhead obviously is coming back and well under-priced, if he starts R1 he should be a lock in every team.

frenzy

pretty much nailed it back at the start of December RD, welldone.

Only change I see is Black out. He couldn't get a kick in the VFL last year.

RaisyDaisy



The structure is what I am more or less set on - just a few players I am still 50/50 on

DEF
Going with 2 guns then rookies. At this stage the two guns will be 2 of Doch/Simmo/Shaw/Laird (I have the 2 most expensive as place holders) and then 2 x 160k options then 4 cheap options. Again, the 160k options give me wiggle room if need be

MID
Had Treloar at M7 but dropped him down to JOM so I could bolster my forward line because I don't think 3 prem forwards is enough with the lack of fwd rookies seemingly not available. Also, I figure JOM + Heeney is better than Treloar + 123k fwd. Also gives me time to see who the best 2 mids will be that I don't have, as opposed to committing 7/8 spots preseason

FWD
Dahl and Rough are locked. Heeney close to a lock but Ryder I am 50/50 about. I figure this year we only need our fwds to be capable of 90+ as I can't see more than 3 averaging over 100, so for that reason I think Dahl and Rough are good to go 90+ and Heeney I can see quite easily increasing his average from 80 to 90+

That being said I also don't think it's worth starting anymore 500k options other than Dahl because IMO they are all priced at their max, where as your Heeney/Miller/Wingard/Higgins etc should be able to match them at a cheaper price

Ryder vs Nank + 50k is something I am still mulling over

Would love to hear peoples thoughts and suggestions

Thanks :)

pendles93

Love the structure. Im batting deep in the guts as well. As a pie man I do find shaz quite a risky d3 though but could work. Defenders seem the most trustworthy rookies.

Absolutely love every POD premo picked.

Strong mail Begley will start the season in the VFL.

Bully


eaglesman

Interesting team.
I just looked at mine and was uber excited about having 4 600k mids so you having 5 is gold haha.

I am not sure about having only 2 prem defenders myself. Obviously scharenberg is a place holder but I would be looking elsewhere as I don't see how he will play.

I currently rolling with sandi and no cover. If I was to have cover it would be nank. If sandi goes down early I'm going to trade my way out of it at this point unless Ryder and nank command a spot over the coming weeks. If you go nank maybe you could use that money to get a more expensive defender rookie.


RaisyDaisy

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Quote from: pendles93 on February 27, 2017, 10:39:37 PM
Love the structure. Im batting deep in the guts as well. As a pie man I do find shaz quite a risky d3 though but could work. Defenders seem the most trustworthy rookies.

Absolutely love every POD premo picked.

Strong mail Begley will start the season in the VFL.

Thanks man. Yeah Scharenberg is just a placeholder at this point, like most of the rookies are. He is there more so because of the funds it allocates

As for Begley, again just a place holder. I'm confident Black at F5 should be fine, so really just need 3 rookies to fill out F6-8. I can quite easily downgrade a Simmo-Laird or Scharenberg to 117k to get the funds to bring in a Turner/Bowes if needed

Quote from: Bully on February 27, 2017, 10:43:51 PM
Nice looking team.

Cheers Bully :)

Quote from: eaglesman on February 27, 2017, 11:03:58 PM
Interesting team.
I just looked at mine and was uber excited about having 4 600k mids so you having 5 is gold haha.

I am not sure about having only 2 prem defenders myself. Obviously scharenberg is a place holder but I would be looking elsewhere as I don't see how he will play.

I currently rolling with sandi and no cover. If I was to have cover it would be nank. If sandi goes down early I'm going to trade my way out of it at this point unless Ryder and nank command a spot over the coming weeks. If you go nank maybe you could use that money to get a more expensive defender rookie.

Yeah as mentioned if Schaz doesn't get up then McGrath, Keeffe, Otten, Hibberd, Smith etc are options. I'm confident I can get away with 2 defenders this year

Sandi without cover is ballsy and something I've considered too because I just don't feel great about Ryder at all. Nank I quite like, but he would need to be upgraded eventually unless he can go 90+ which I guess isn't completely out of he question

Dunno, I'm very comfortable with my def, mids and ruc. Just my fwd line I am not settled or comfortable with completely just yet

As for the 600k+ mids, up until yesterday I had Treloar in too so had 6 600k players haha. Can still do it, but just decided to do Treloar down to JOM to bring in Heeney to bolster fwds as 3 fwds is too light I think due to lack of rookies

eaglesman

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2017, 11:19:38 PM
Quote from: pendles93 on February 27, 2017, 10:39:37 PM
Love the structure. Im batting deep in the guts as well. As a pie man I do find shaz quite a risky d3 though but could work. Defenders seem the most trustworthy rookies.

Absolutely love every POD premo picked.

Strong mail Begley will start the season in the VFL.

Thanks man. Yeah Scharenberg is just a placeholder at this point, like most of the rookies are. He is there more so because of the funds it allocates

As for Begley, again just a place holder. I'm confident Black at F5 should be fine, so really just need 3 rookies to fill out F6-8. I can quite easily downgrade a Simmo-Laird or Scharenberg to 117k to get the funds to bring in a Turner/Bowes if needed

Quote from: Bully on February 27, 2017, 10:43:51 PM
Nice looking team.

Cheers Bully :)

Quote from: eaglesman on February 27, 2017, 11:03:58 PM
Interesting team.
I just looked at mine and was uber excited about having 4 600k mids so you having 5 is gold haha.

I am not sure about having only 2 prem defenders myself. Obviously scharenberg is a place holder but I would be looking elsewhere as I don't see how he will play.

I currently rolling with sandi and no cover. If I was to have cover it would be nank. If sandi goes down early I'm going to trade my way out of it at this point unless Ryder and nank command a spot over the coming weeks. If you go nank maybe you could use that money to get a more expensive defender rookie.

Yeah as mentioned if Schaz doesn't get up then McGrath, Keeffe, Otten, Hibberd, Smith etc are options. I'm confident I can get away with 2 defenders this year

Sandi without cover is ballsy and something I've considered too because I just don't feel great about Ryder at all. Nank I quite like, but he would need to be upgraded eventually unless he can go 90+ which I guess isn't completely out of he question

Dunno, I'm very comfortable with my def, mids and ruc. Just my fwd line I am not settled or comfortable with completely just yet

As for the 600k+ mids, up until yesterday I had Treloar in too so had 6 600k players haha. Can still do it, but just decided to do Treloar down to JOM to bring in Heeney to bolster fwds as 3 fwds is too light I think due to lack of rookies

If Otten is named he is definitely in. if I was Adelaide coach I would definitely be picking him. Don't understand why there is a doubt on him(minus injury)

Mat0369

My first team had Simmo/Doc/Adams as my 3 defenders so I'm a fan of the two you currently have in. I've also gone 2 premium defenders and loaded up on rookies. Traditionally you can get away with less in terms of premiums down back because it is the most inconsistent line. It also tends to give you the most in terms of rookies. I like the set up.

Midfield is similar to mine. Only difference in structure is I have Hanners, Sloane and Murphy to your JPK, Rocky and Swallow.

I have gone Goldy and Sandi to your Gawn and Sandi so a similar set up there. I'm looking at playing rookies in the ruck spot though. One of Preuss, Cameron and Witts if they are named round 1 will slide in.

I think there are a ton of forward rookies, you might just have to fork out cash. This is one line I can see a ton of guys getting named for round 1. I'm not a fan of the Ryder pick, I'd rather go with no coverage then take Ryder/Nank. Heeney is a good breakout contender.

Ringo

As an eagles man RD have you considered Lycett as a fwd and ruck cover. His end of year apart from 1 game very encouraging and with Nat out surely he will maintain those averages and give you the 90+

Structure similar to mine only issue I am grappling with is whether to have a mid pricer Roughie at F4 or Murphy at D3.

My 2 prem defenders Laird and Rance Rance is on watch with his injury.

Only difference in mids atm is I have Zorko over Rocky. with different bench have Bowes as one going with my strategy of having an expensive rookie or 2 on each line.

RaisyDaisy

Cheers Mat and Ringo - gutsy to start a rookie ruck Mat, and Lycett I just don't think would be good enough for F6 - should push 90, and the cover is obviously very good but I want to aim higher

Now with Beams getting the captaincy gig that has restored my faith in his health - might need to look at getting him back in