Holz's Heroes

[eaglesman]

Rance Laird Adams mcgrath scharenberg Keefe(vickers willis, ryan)
Danger Pendles Fyfe Rocky Bontempeli D.Swallow Mcglugg Myers  (freeman, bolton, hibberd)
Goldy Gawn ( Stranicada)
Dahl macrae roughy taranto ainsworth bowes (eddy jarman)


Agree it looked too weak on other lines. Reckon this is the most balanced with a pretty strong fwd line. Strongest rucks still a good mid and a ok backline. Spending over 1 mil on 5 rookies though.

Our teams are pretty similar so can't argue too much.
Only differences is I have extra def prem. I have beams you have swallow. You have goldy I have sandi and I have Ryder at f3.

I'm interested to hear your stance on the beams vs swallow debate?

That seems to be the issue I'm struggling with the most at the moment for m6.
Beams and sandi vs swallow and stef Martin. Seems a much a of muchness to me

Im more worried about beams injury then swallow and also swallow not costing much more then a rookie where as if beams gets injured at 450k with no cash what do you do?

Also sandi the same thing.

Swallow Martin certainly the better option.

Yeah I have gone Martin omeara(allocating cash but if starting round 1 will be the better pick anyways)

[Holz]

ok so i said no mid pricers after crouch seeds last year and crouch was a failure but have gone swallow omeara given they are returning almost premos.

Shaw Laird Adams mcgrath scharenberg Newman (vickers willis, ryan)
Danger Pendles Fyfe Rocky Bontempeli D.Swallow J.Omeara Setterfield  (freeman,myers, powel-pepper)
Goldy Gawn ( Preuss)
Dahl roughy mccluggage taranto ainsworth bowes (eddy schoenamkers)

tempted to go preuss in the ruck as then i should have R1 locked away all year, just need no injury to Gawn.

[eaglesman]

I like the new additions. I added swallow into my team also after the weekend he is a must.

[shaker]

ok so i said no mid pricers after crouch seeds last year and crouch was a failure but have gone swallow omeara given they are returning almost premos.

Shaw Laird Adams mcgrath scharenberg Newman (vickers willis, ryan)
Danger Pendles Fyfe Rocky Bontempeli D.Swallow J.Omeara Setterfield  (freeman,myers, powel-pepper)
Goldy Gawn ( Preuss)
Dahl roughy mccluggage taranto ainsworth bowes (eddy schoenamkers)

tempted to go preuss in the ruck as then i should have R1 locked away all year, just need no injury to Gawn.

If you run with Preuss what will you do if Goldy or Gawn miss a week or two and Preuss is not playing ?

[Holz]

ok so i said no mid pricers after crouch seeds last year and crouch was a failure but have gone swallow omeara given they are returning almost premos.

Shaw Laird Adams mcgrath scharenberg Newman (vickers willis, ryan)
Danger Pendles Fyfe Rocky Bontempeli D.Swallow J.Omeara Setterfield  (freeman,myers, powel-pepper)
Goldy Gawn ( Preuss)
Dahl roughy mccluggage taranto ainsworth bowes (eddy schoenamkers)

tempted to go preuss in the ruck as then i should have R1 locked away all year, just need no injury to Gawn.

If you run with Preuss what will you do if Goldy or Gawn miss a week or two and Preuss is not playing ?

well if Goldy misses a week then im pretty much certain Preuss will play. I love him and picked him up in draft leagues for that reason. Daw is getting groomed as just a forward and I dont rate Durdin or Nielson.

Preuss is the ruck for the VFL side and will step in.

If Gawn is gone then yeah im in trouble. not having F/R is a huge negative but in saying that i would need to trade a forward for a F/R and i dont love any of them.

Would punt on both playing 22 games but goldy perhaps the riskier of the 2 injury wise as of late but really goldy plays through injury.

definitely want people opinion on this but i find that every year i go hard on trades which is fine but then run out and end up copping donuts late anyway. If gawn misses one week then im thinking just take it and instead of having a F/R who wont play and then forced to compromise and trade in a ryder etc... just take the hit. That trade i saved (and the compromise on ryder) can be used to make a extra 150k to make my team stronger etc...

The though process with Preuss is if goldy misses one week then im fine so essentially im halving my chances of getting a donut from a 1 week ruck injury. For the cost of 17k at the start of the season.

absolute worse case scenario is i burn 1 extra trade turning him into a F/R in the season.

[shaker]

ok so i said no mid pricers after crouch seeds last year and crouch was a failure but have gone swallow omeara given they are returning almost premos.

Shaw Laird Adams mcgrath scharenberg Newman (vickers willis, ryan)
Danger Pendles Fyfe Rocky Bontempeli D.Swallow J.Omeara Setterfield  (freeman,myers, powel-pepper)
Goldy Gawn ( Preuss)
Dahl roughy mccluggage taranto ainsworth bowes (eddy schoenamkers)

tempted to go preuss in the ruck as then i should have R1 locked away all year, just need no injury to Gawn.

If you run with Preuss what will you do if Goldy or Gawn miss a week or two and Preuss is not playing ?

well if Goldy misses a week then im pretty much certain Preuss will play. I love him and picked him up in draft leagues for that reason. Daw is getting groomed as just a forward and I dont rate Durdin or Nielson.

Preuss is the ruck for the VFL side and will step in.

If Gawn is gone then yeah im in trouble. not having F/R is a huge negative but in saying that i would need to trade a forward for a F/R and i dont love any of them.

Would punt on both playing 22 games but goldy perhaps the riskier of the 2 injury wise as of late but really goldy plays through injury.

if a gawn misses 1 week ill likely take the donut. I normally end up running out of trades and taking donuts anyway.

Ok I learnt my lesson last year having a ruck only in R3 I'm hoping R1 and 2 play all games as well but will have a R/F in that position this year

[Colley Dogs]

Like your team.

Except for Roughy.

Personally, for the same cash spend at F2/3 I'm setting up with Heeney + Miller.

I think Heeney has the potential to match McCrae in points, but Miller has a significantly higher ceiling than Roughy.

If you don't like Miller, consider Wingard or Ryder. 

[Holz]

Like your team.

Except for Roughy.

Personally, for the same cash spend at F2/3 I'm setting up with Heeney + Miller.

I think Heeney has the potential to match McCrae in points, but Miller has a significantly higher ceiling than Roughy.

If you don't like Miller, consider Wingard or Ryder.

Roughy is just so cheap at 367k

I like Wingard but 70k more is sizeable.

as is Henney for 65k

I was very hesitant on roughy at the start and he has been declining every year but 5 straight 90+ years. He looks in much better shape then i originally though. All i need from him is 85 and ill be very happy.

I dont really like the Wingard Ryder Henney options as they arent elite and they cost more. Thing is at 360k he can make 90k jumping up to 450k fairly easy then i pump him up to premo if i need be.

Wingard etc will find it tough to make 90k jumping up to 530k puts him in ultra premo territory anyway.

Ill never have the best team in the comp at round 18-22 my goal is to generate the most points round 1-18 then hang on from there. Roughy will hopefully bank me points which is the reason i have swallow JOM. they should beat rookies quite easily i of course could go Rookie Rookie Bont but im hoping these 3 outscore that.

eg.

110 65 65 v 80 (Roughy) 90 (JOM) 85 (Swallow)

240  v  265

[frenzy]

Any more Holz and you'd sink a battleship, only joking, nice team. Love reading your methodology behind your choice's and just being nit picky or having a different opinion to yourself, but I don't like the Bont in your team. I think he'll struggle to finish in the top 15 MIDS. Don't get me wrong, he's gunna be a star, but not this year at the super premo level. Your thoughts please. Put me back in me box.  ;D

[Holz]

Any more Holz and you'd sink a battleship, only joking, nice team. Love reading your methodology behind your choice's and just being nit picky or having a different opinion to yourself, but I don't like the Bont in your team. I think he'll struggle to finish in the top 15 MIDS. Don't get me wrong, he's gunna be a star, but not this year at the super premo level. Your thoughts please. Put me back in me box.  ;D

he had the big end of the year and showed enough 130+ games to show me he is capable of being the next 115+ guy but im not convinced myself I would love Sloane but im worried about his face. I may just go cheaper in the mids. Your question marks on him are totally valid he is certainly capable of going bang and averaging 120+ this year though.

He is a risky pick

[Holz]

Laird Adams Marchbank Scharenberg Hampton Stewart (Vickers willis, ryan)
Danger Pendles Fyfe Rocky Ablett Treloar D.Swallow J.Omeara  (Brodie, Wigg, Powel-pepper)
Goldy Gawn ( Preuss)
Dahl Roughy Mccluggage Taranto M.Kenney Schoenmakers (Eddy Black)

66k in the bank.

seen enough from Swallow JOM and Roughy to have them as underpriced premos. With the cost of 1st round rookies high im picking a few 2nd 3rd year players at similar prices.

[ben_020285]

Laird Adams Marchbank Scharenberg Hampton Stewart (Vickers willis, ryan)
Danger Pendles Fyfe Rocky Ablett Treloar D.Swallow J.Omeara  (Brodie, Wigg, Powel-pepper)
Goldy Gawn ( Preuss)
Dahl Roughy Mccluggage Taranto M.Kenney Schoenmakers (Eddy Black)

66k in the bank.

seen enough from Swallow JOM and Roughy to have them as underpriced premos. With the cost of 1st round rookies high im picking a few 2nd 3rd year players at similar prices.

Scharenberg looked very rusty and is more unlikely to play round 1 than likely. Ryan didnt even make it into the squad for Freo's first JLT game. So I think having only 2 DEF premiums isn't going to work.

Ablett hasn't played JLT1 or JLT2, has a dodgy shoulder and doesn't want to be at Gold Coast so I don't think he's a good pick. He once was everybody's first picked but those days are well and truly gone.

What's the plan if one or two of your mid rookies are averaging 80 and the rest of your rookies are averaging 60? I think not fielding any mid rookies is not going to work.

JOM and Swallow are not underpriced premos. They are great value picks that will need to be upgraded down the track.

I reckon you need one more premium up forward. Relying on four fwd rookies on field doesn't fill me with any confidence.

The rest looks good.

[Holz]

Laird Adams Marchbank Scharenberg Hampton Stewart (Vickers willis, ryan)
Danger Pendles Fyfe Rocky Ablett Treloar D.Swallow J.Omeara  (Brodie, Wigg, Powel-pepper)
Goldy Gawn ( Preuss)
Dahl Roughy Mccluggage Taranto M.Kenney Schoenmakers (Eddy Black)

66k in the bank.

seen enough from Swallow JOM and Roughy to have them as underpriced premos. With the cost of 1st round rookies high im picking a few 2nd 3rd year players at similar prices.

Scharenberg looked very rusty and is more unlikely to play round 1 than likely. Ryan didnt even make it into the squad for Freo's first JLT game. So I think having only 2 DEF premiums isn't going to work.

Ablett hasn't played JLT1 or JLT2, has a dodgy shoulder and doesn't want to be at Gold Coast so I don't think he's a good pick. He once was everybody's first picked but those days are well and truly gone.

What's the plan if one or two of your mid rookies are averaging 80 and the rest of your rookies are averaging 60? I think not fielding any mid rookies is not going to work.

JOM and Swallow are not underpriced premos. They are great value picks that will need to be upgraded down the track.

I reckon you need one more premium up forward. Relying on four fwd rookies on field doesn't fill me with any confidence.

The rest looks good.

1. Still have McGrath Newman Hibberd as options we will see round 1.

2. Ablett is a very risky POD but no doubt he has fantastic upside.

3. Dont like the mid rookies at all, maybe brodie if he plays round 1 ill probably drop somebody.



I have looked at this squad too

Laird Adams Marchbank Hibberd Hampton Stewart (Vickers willis, Newman)
Danger Pendles Fyfe Rocky Ablett D.Swallow J.Omeara Taranto (Brodie Wigg, Powel-pepper)
Goldy Gawn ( Preuss)
Dahl Gunston Higgins Roughy Mccluggage Schoenmakers (Eddy Black)

[Bully]

Nice looking team. Don't mind going light in the back line this year as I reckon the rookies will surprise.

[Holz]

this is my roll the dice team.

punting on Lynch being a big POD, 83 89 93 the last 3 years with a GC squad who should be better next year.

Laird Adams Marchbank Hibberd Hampton Stewart (Vickers willis, Newman)
Danger Pendles Fyfe Rocky Selwood Beams D.Swallow J.Omeara  (Pickett, Wigg, Powel-pepper)
Goldy Sandi ( Stranidica)
Dahl Lynch Gunston Roughy Mccluggage Schoenmakers (Eddy Black)

amazingly only 6 guys under 250kk on the field with only 1 first year rookie.