Holz's Heroes

[shaker]

I dare you to start with a FWD line like that

with that Midfield and Ruckline i sure might.

its a bold move that could pull me away from the pack if the big mids all stay big mids.

I may drop Dmart to spread some cash.

Haha it's a long way out but I'm betting it won't look like that come round 1

[eaglesman]

I dare you to start with a FWD line like that

with that Midfield and Ruckline i sure might.

its a bold move that could pull me away from the pack if the big mids all stay big mids.

I may drop Dmart to spread some cash.

Haha it's a long way out but I'm betting it won't look like that come round 1

[GCSkiwi]

Still working off fan planner but came up with a pretty crazy squad.

H.Shaw, A.Rance, R.Laird, A.Mcgrath, M.Scharenberg, J.Scrimshaw (J.Berry, L.Ryan)
P.Dangerfield, S.Pendlebury, T.Rockliff, A.Treloar, D.Martin, M.Bontempelli, D.Beams, B.Scheer (K.Mutch, D.Clarke, D.Myers)
T.Goldstein, B.Grundy (L.Strmadica)
L.Dahlous, H.Mcgluggage, B.Ainswroth, J.Bowes, W.Drew, T.Tiranto (B.Eddy, W.Rioli)

clearly weak forward line but look at that mid.

Interesting squad sir.

My overall though is yes it's a nice mid line, but I'mnot sold on a few picks there. Dustbin and Bont could be big achilles heels if they can't lift to 115ish. Dusty's been pegged for a breakout year the past umpteen seasons, I think theres better value out there. Bont could do it, but I've gone with Titchell myself - space in the midfield at hawks with the loss of Lewis and Smitchell. Has always gotten plenty of ball, might be able to lift his game another step now. Will be interesting see how he, JOM and Hodge work. Also Rocky definitely dependent on pre season for me, not including him at this stage.

[Holz]

Still working off fan planner but came up with a pretty crazy squad.

H.Shaw, A.Rance, R.Laird, A.Mcgrath, M.Scharenberg, J.Scrimshaw (J.Berry, L.Ryan)
P.Dangerfield, S.Pendlebury, T.Rockliff, A.Treloar, D.Martin, M.Bontempelli, D.Beams, B.Scheer (K.Mutch, D.Clarke, D.Myers)
T.Goldstein, B.Grundy (L.Strmadica)
L.Dahlous, H.Mcgluggage, B.Ainswroth, J.Bowes, W.Drew, T.Tiranto (B.Eddy, W.Rioli)

clearly weak forward line but look at that mid.

Interesting squad sir.

My overall though is yes it's a nice mid line, but I'mnot sold on a few picks there. Dustbin and Bont could be big achilles heels if they can't lift to 115ish. Dusty's been pegged for a breakout year the past umpteen seasons, I think theres better value out there. Bont could do it, but I've gone with Titchell myself - space in the midfield at hawks with the loss of Lewis and Smitchell. Has always gotten plenty of ball, might be able to lift his game another step now. Will be interesting see how he, JOM and Hodge work. Also Rocky definitely dependent on pre season for me, not including him at this stage.

truth be told not 100% sold on Dusty.From round 6 onwards he played in the mids and averaged 112.7 though, he will likely be the guy ill drop to get a premo fwd.

Bont on the other hand might be a must have, no matter what champion data says they are bias towards stars and winning a flag getting the recognition will help bont. He averaged 115 from round 7 onwards is playing in a gun team and as i said is just getting the recognition.

not only that but went 70 145 140 in the finals.

in all likelihood ill probably go Martin to Tiranto, Tiranto to Gunston and then Grundy to Gawn.

i reckon Gunston Gawn might come close to Martin Grundy.

[GoLions]

With all the mid rookies that got forward status, tbh I think this strategy could be viable. Clugg, Bowes, Drew all gun mids, and Taranto gun mid/fwd, Ainsworth gun forward. There's a very good chance I'll end up going with 2 premo forwards myself, but if not enough pure mids get named and look like having good JS at round 1, this could be the way to go.

Wouldn't start Dusty though, this ain't Worlds Holz :P

[quinny88]

Dusty has pretty much increased his scoring every year he's been in the comp. clangers probably the only thing holding him back from being a 115+ mid as he does go for some risky long pin point passes that don't always come off.
A big bonus is that he's only missed 4 games in 7 years (2 of them from suspension) so he's as durable as they get.
Personally I'll wait and see on him as his role may slightly change with Prestia and Caddy taking some of the load off in the midfield. Think we could see him spend a bit more time across half forward so will see if that helps or hinders his scoring.

[GoLions]

Dusty has pretty much increased his scoring every year he's been in the comp. clangers probably the only thing holding him back from being a 115+ mid as he does go for some risky long pin point passes that don't always come off.
A big bonus is that he's only missed 4 games in 7 years (2 of them from suspension) so he's as durable as they get.
Personally I'll wait and see on him as his role may slightly change with Prestia and Caddy taking some of the load off in the midfield. Think we could see him spend a bit more time across half forward so will see if that helps or hinders his scoring.

That's pretty much what I was thinking. He's a lot more damaging around half forward than those two are. Whether it impacts his scoring or not...I'm not sure. Hopefully he gets fwd status back in 2018 though :p

[Holz]

Dusty has pretty much increased his scoring every year he's been in the comp. clangers probably the only thing holding him back from being a 115+ mid as he does go for some risky long pin point passes that don't always come off.
A big bonus is that he's only missed 4 games in 7 years (2 of them from suspension) so he's as durable as they get.
Personally I'll wait and see on him as his role may slightly change with Prestia and Caddy taking some of the load off in the midfield. Think we could see him spend a bit more time across half forward so will see if that helps or hinders his scoring.

That's pretty much what I was thinking. He's a lot more damaging around half forward than those two are. Whether it impacts his scoring or not...I'm not sure. Hopefully he gets fwd status back in 2018 though :p

Yeah I would like dpp Martin

OK I'll drop him for Sloane to stay in the Dublin family.

[RaisyDaisy]

I'm expecting another solid year from you Holz, but the one choice I just can't get behind is Grundy

I know he looks good and is good, but does he have what it takes to go 110+? I don't think he does

Gawn, Goldy, Stef and Sandi would be the 4 I'd only consider

[Peter]

Agree re rucks

[Holz]

I'm expecting another solid year from you Holz, but the one choice I just can't get behind is Grundy

I know he looks good and is good, but does he have what it takes to go 110+? I don't think he does

Gawn, Goldy, Stef and Sandi would be the 4 I'd only consider

I dont know I would consider the fact he averaged 106 in the last 10 rounds a pretty good sign. Especially when he is just turning 23 and it being the time that most rucks start to turn into good players.

Ill probably get Gawn in if i have the cash but Grundy certainly has a spot on the consideration list. At worst you would think 100 with the likes of Pendles and Treloar getting the ball from him.

[Holz]

ok so finally got acess and can put a proper team in

Rance, Laird, Adams, Scharenberg, Mcgrath, Vickers Willis - Scrimsahw Ryan
Danger Pendles Treloar Rocky Bont Fyfe Myers Brodie - Scheer Clarke Mutch
Gawn Goldy - Strnadica
Dahl Macrae Mcglugg Ainsworth Bowes Drew - Eddy Schoenmakers

if forwards dont come up will spend more cash there but i like guys like Turner Schoey T.Menzel etc...

[Peter]

As an acknowledged expert over many years Holz, where do you look to get your points - backs or forwards (ignoring mids as I have the same draft mids line up). You have 3/2 in backs/forwards keepers and wondered whether the split was how you prefer or just happens to be that way at this early stage?

[GoLions]

As an acknowledged expert over many years Holz, where do you look to get your points - backs or forwards (ignoring mids as I have the same draft mids line up). You have 3/2 in backs/forwards keepers and wondered whether the split was how you prefer or just happens to be that way at this early stage?

There's a lot of gun fwd rookies. Obviously depends on who actually gets named round 1 though.

[Holz]

As an acknowledged expert over many years Holz, where do you look to get your points - backs or forwards (ignoring mids as I have the same draft mids line up). You have 3/2 in backs/forwards keepers and wondered whether the split was how you prefer or just happens to be that way at this early stage?

There's a lot of gun fwd rookies. Obviously depends on who actually gets named round 1 though.

what dave said, my advice is at this stage dont worry about the squad too much. What you should do is pick the premiums you must have so for me that Goldy Danger Dahl and maybe fyfe then pick the squad from the rookies up. Im currentyl light on forward premiums not because i dont like the premiums but because i like the forward rookies.

I do try to get my mid premos scoring but if there are loads of mid rookies i wont do that. given champion data has given most of the mid rookies forward status thats why im going strong in the mids. There is no way i would pick up say a Lance Franklin (despite rating him) + Ainsworth in the mids + 65k over a Bont + Ainsworth in the forward line.