The Playing Rookies Thread 2017 Edition

Started by RaisyDaisy, December 06, 2016, 11:49:51 AM

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quinny88

Why has SPS all of a sudden become so popular?
Is it just because people are over excited and anxious so they are putting in any of the rookies that have been confirmed to play?
189k for a kid that hasn't even played a JLT game seems like a lot or is he that good?
When you consider the other expensive rookies like McGrath, Bowes, Ainsworth etc have been written off by most even though theyve played games I find it a little odd that people would go with a guy that hasn't even been seen yet

eaglesman

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 23, 2017, 01:21:54 AM
Quote from: _wato on March 23, 2017, 12:53:14 AM
Hampton (Otten, Stewart)
SPS (SPP, Pickett, Parfitt)
Cameron
Taranto (Butler, Eddy)

Thoughts??? Depends on my call between Nank + Roughy v Macrae + Taranto.

My latest team is not that different.

Marchbank, Hampton, Stewart (Otten, EVW)
SPS (SPP, Pickett, Barrett)
(Cameron)
Taranto, Hoskin-Elliott, Turner (Houston, Eddy)

Why are you guys so big on SPS? Dominated the colts but struggled against the men

_wato

Why am I so big on him? Because he's silky smooth, beautiful user and distributor of the ball, is a tackling machine and he's gonna get more opportunity in the Blues midfield than Taranto will at Giants. He'll line up on a wing I reckon. Taranto will play deep forward.
Bowes and Ainsworth have both been underwhelming and McGrath won't play every week.

I nearly rate SPS as one of the best of last years draft.

quinny88

Quote from: _wato on March 23, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
Why am I so big on him? Because he's silky smooth, beautiful user and distributor of the ball, is a tackling machine and he's gonna get more opportunity in the Blues midfield than Taranto will at Giants. He'll line up on a wing I reckon. Taranto will play deep forward.
Bowes and Ainsworth have both been underwhelming and McGrath won't play every week.

I nearly rate SPS as one of the best of last years draft.

Surely they ease him in? He hasn't played anything at this level yet.
I gotta say though he must have something special to walk into a round 1 side ahead of guys like Kerridge and Palmer without a game under his belt

Bully

Quote from: _wato on March 23, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
Why am I so big on him? Because he's silky smooth, beautiful user and distributor of the ball, is a tackling machine and he's gonna get more opportunity in the Blues midfield than Taranto will at Giants. He'll line up on a wing I reckon. Taranto will play deep forward.
Bowes and Ainsworth have both been underwhelming and McGrath won't play every week.

I nearly rate SPS as one of the best of last years draft.

He's also a contested ball winner, good player with huge upside.

Mat0369

The fact he has been named without even playing a JLT game says enough to me about his JS to lock him in. These guys are our future, we need to get games into them ASAP. I basically need one of SSP or SPS to cover mid 8. If he is half as good as advertised he should be good enough and earn enough cash to be a decent pick.

_wato

Quote from: quinny88 on March 23, 2017, 02:09:38 AM
Quote from: _wato on March 23, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
Why am I so big on him? Because he's silky smooth, beautiful user and distributor of the ball, is a tackling machine and he's gonna get more opportunity in the Blues midfield than Taranto will at Giants. He'll line up on a wing I reckon. Taranto will play deep forward.
Bowes and Ainsworth have both been underwhelming and McGrath won't play every week.

I nearly rate SPS as one of the best of last years draft.

Surely they ease him in? He hasn't played anything at this level yet.
I gotta say though he must have something special to walk into a round 1 side ahead of guys like Kerridge and Palmer without a game under his belt

Doubt it. He's done everything asked of him. Apparently killed the intra club the other week.
He's a special kind of player. Will make the highlight reel type. But not in the sense that he snags a few goals, because he plays more up the ground. Also fills a desperate list need of Carlton and that is leg speed with good skills. I reckon him playing outside mid is gonna do beauties for him, won't require him to be eased in.
And that also Bully. Somebody is gonna have to play the 4th/5th mid, Murph Gibbs Cripps Curnow can't play there all game. Don't really see much else on that team sheet that excites me. 

Mat0369

#892
No surprise Palmer wasn't named. I said it ealier, we can only afford to carry one of him and Dennis. Dennis played better and deserves the spot.

Kerridge is probably not in because of his ball use. He butchered the pill a bit and we need guys that will use it well. That must be a vote of confidence in Smedts since he will play on the wing.

HMac is another to watch . Was named emergency but could be in soon. We kept a settled rotation of 7 guys in defense. The Tuohy spot is still open. I'm expecting Thomas/Curnow to rotate through there based on pre-season.

MontyJnr

Quote from: _wato on March 23, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
Why am I so big on him? Because he's silky smooth, beautiful user and distributor of the ball, is a tackling machine and he's gonna get more opportunity in the Blues midfield than Taranto will at Giants. He'll line up on a wing I reckon. Taranto will play deep forward.
Bowes and Ainsworth have both been underwhelming and McGrath won't play every week.

I nearly rate SPS as one of the best of last years draft.

I wonder if you would pick Ainsworth or Bowes this week if they missed the entire JLT series and Gold Coast named them in the 22 for the Q-Clash...

They were in everyones side before posting underwhelming JLT scores. Whose to say SPS would be different?

_wato

Quote from: MontyJnr on March 23, 2017, 02:25:46 AM
Quote from: _wato on March 23, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
Why am I so big on him? Because he's silky smooth, beautiful user and distributor of the ball, is a tackling machine and he's gonna get more opportunity in the Blues midfield than Taranto will at Giants. He'll line up on a wing I reckon. Taranto will play deep forward.
Bowes and Ainsworth have both been underwhelming and McGrath won't play every week.

I nearly rate SPS as one of the best of last years draft.

I wonder if you would pick Ainsworth or Bowes this week if they missed the entire JLT series and Gold Coast named them in the 22 for the Q-Clash...

They were in everyones side before posting underwhelming JLT scores. Whose to say SPS would be different?

It's not just about the JLT. I'd be thinking about where those two would be playing on field.

Ainsworth a forward pocket, and for $198k I'd say no. You'd assume Bowes would be part of a mid rotation but GC are upto their knees with mids so obviously he'd get a role elsewhere. It happens to be half back, and GC have never produced a good accumulator across half back apart from KK but that was eons ago. I assume he'll play lock down but have some freedom so he could be a good buy.

Where I see SPS playing is across the wing and midfield with time up forward. Also, if those other two named (Bowes & Ainsworth) didn't play any JLT they wouldn't be selected. SPS has beaten guys like Kerridge and Cuningham for spots who had pretty good JLT series.... He didn't play one game. So they obviously rate him highly to chuck him into a round one furnace against the Tigers.

Also, mids tend to score better than forwards and half backs as rookies.... That would also sway my decision. 

quinny88

Alright you've sold me boys! He's in my side at M8
Hopefully produces the goods.

Now I just need to chose an F6.

Bowes vs Turner ?

tkringle

Quote from: quinny88 on March 23, 2017, 03:00:29 AM
Alright you've sold me boys! He's in my side at M8
Hopefully produces the goods.

Now I just need to chose an F6.

Bowes vs Turner ?

What about Florent over those two?

petefisker

Thoughts on fielding Pickett at F6 vs Richmond? Or could put the E loophole.him.

LordSneeze

Quote from: _wato on March 23, 2017, 02:32:13 AM
Quote from: MontyJnr on March 23, 2017, 02:25:46 AM
Quote from: _wato on March 23, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
Why am I so big on him? Because he's silky smooth, beautiful user and distributor of the ball, is a tackling machine and he's gonna get more opportunity in the Blues midfield than Taranto will at Giants. He'll line up on a wing I reckon. Taranto will play deep forward.
Bowes and Ainsworth have both been underwhelming and McGrath won't play every week.

I nearly rate SPS as one of the best of last years draft.

I wonder if you would pick Ainsworth or Bowes this week if they missed the entire JLT series and Gold Coast named them in the 22 for the Q-Clash...

They were in everyones side before posting underwhelming JLT scores. Whose to say SPS would be different?

It's not just about the JLT. I'd be thinking about where those two would be playing on field.

Ainsworth a forward pocket, and for $198k I'd say no. You'd assume Bowes would be part of a mid rotation but GC are upto their knees with mids so obviously he'd get a role elsewhere. It happens to be half back, and GC have never produced a good accumulator across half back apart from KK but that was eons ago. I assume he'll play lock down but have some freedom so he could be a good buy.

Where I see SPS playing is across the wing and midfield with time up forward. Also, if those other two named (Bowes & Ainsworth) didn't play any JLT they wouldn't be selected. SPS has beaten guys like Kerridge and Cuningham for spots who had pretty good JLT series.... He didn't play one game. So they obviously rate him highly to chuck him into a round one furnace against the Tigers.

Also, mids tend to score better than forwards and half backs as rookies.... That would also sway my decision.

People are jumping on mainly because he was named. Didn't play JLT so its clear that Carlton have big wraps on him.

I think it is too risky to start him myself, especially as he would need to be on field at his price. So my plan will be to wait 2 weeks and bring him in as a correction if need be.
Gives me the option to see how all my other rookies are going, if one gets dropped i have the swing. Using Pickett in the Mids, Taranto FWD etc I have options to make the correction on any line.

The benefit of the plan is
If he performs well I only miss 2 scores which being a rookie may not be any points lost anyway, its only a single trade to bring him in as a correction
If he performs poorly, I avoid being stuck with an expensive spud.

Gigantor

If he performs poorly I can trade him out as a correction, which is a lot easier than trying to bring him in at his price