The Playing Rookies Thread 2017 Edition

[Judd Magic]

Apart from the fact Steele is a forward so you could move him into the forward line.

Steele is worth more than Butler and Houston though so easier to upgrade to a mid premo.

[essendon2]

The backline is the last line I would spending trades on now - Doch, Laird, Adams etc all doing well and Otten, Marchbank, Hampton etc all still mooing - it's solid down there and the last place I'm using trades on. Will still be plenty of better options later on well under 500k

Getting good rookies in/generating cash/getting rid of bad rookies, is all much more important than Hibberd for 400k lol

In good news:

Lyon: Harley Balic will be available, Danyle Pearce, Nick Suban, those sort of guys are in line to replace Stephen Hill

One alternative option is to trade out Parfitt, use Adams DPP into MID and upgrade to a DEF premo like Hibberd for e.g. ???

[crowls]

The backline is the last line I would spending trades on now - Doch, Laird, Adams etc all doing well and Otten, Marchbank, Hampton etc all still mooing - it's solid down there and the last place I'm using trades on. Will still be plenty of better options later on well under 500k

Getting good rookies in/generating cash/getting rid of bad rookies, is all much more important than Hibberd for 400k lol

In good news:

Lyon: Harley Balic will be available, Danyle Pearce, Nick Suban, those sort of guys are in line to replace Stephen Hill

One alternative option is to trade out Parfitt, use Adams DPP into MID and upgrade to a DEF premo like Hibberd for e.g. ???

I have McGrath and did this for LLoyd this week.     Toss up between LLoyd and Howe.     Is it too early for simmon or shaw yet?

[GoLions]

Apart from the fact Steele is a forward so you could move him into the forward line.

Steele is worth more than Butler and Houston though so easier to upgrade to a mid premo.

Probably worth more because he is scoring more, and with only the 1 score under 80, could easily be held for F6 potentially, or at worst an F7/M9 swingman for cover.

[Judd Magic]

Apart from the fact Steele is a forward so you could move him into the forward line.

Steele is worth more than Butler and Houston though so easier to upgrade to a mid premo.

Probably worth more because he is scoring more, and with only the 1 score under 80, could easily be held for F6 potentially, or at worst an F7/M9 swingman for cover.

May end up keeping Steele.

Mainly need 3 back premos, one mid and 2 forwards.

Not worried about Witts and Sandi unless they fall to pieces.

[whynot102]

Hardwick or Balic

[HoleMeal]

Hardwick or and Balic?

[LordSneeze]

Balic

Leave Hardwick as another POD rookie for me. Williamson last week, Hardwick this.

[RaisyDaisy]

Balic

Leave Hardwick as another POD rookie for me. Williamson last week, Hardwick this.

Have spoken to several Hawks people and they all think his JS is too dicey

Not often Clarko brings in a junior and plays them all year around

Pass for me

[GoLions]

Balic

Leave Hardwick as another POD rookie for me. Williamson last week, Hardwick this.

Have spoken to several Hawks people and they all think his JS is too dicey

Not often Clarko brings in a junior and plays them all year around

Pass for me

I dunno. He only needs to play like 4 more games to make 100k (assuming he keeps up a 60+ avg). Chuck in an 80 or so and he'll be pushing 150k. I'll be looking at Balic and Fisher over him, but if Balic doesn't get named...might go with Hardwick.

[RaisyDaisy]

Balic

Leave Hardwick as another POD rookie for me. Williamson last week, Hardwick this.

Have spoken to several Hawks people and they all think his JS is too dicey

Not often Clarko brings in a junior and plays them all year around

Pass for me

I dunno. He only needs to play like 4 more games to make 100k (assuming he keeps up a 60+ avg). Chuck in an 80 or so and he'll be pushing 150k. I'll be looking at Balic and Fisher over him, but if Balic doesn't get named...might go with Hardwick.

I reckon if you're trading a Eddy/Pickett type to him than I'm all for that, but if you're doing a downgrade and he becomes your F6/7 then that could be risky

I don't hate the pick and it could work, but the JS has to be the biggest worry and you'd think Fisher and even Balic have better JS

[GoLions]

Balic

Leave Hardwick as another POD rookie for me. Williamson last week, Hardwick this.

Have spoken to several Hawks people and they all think his JS is too dicey

Not often Clarko brings in a junior and plays them all year around

Pass for me

I dunno. He only needs to play like 4 more games to make 100k (assuming he keeps up a 60+ avg). Chuck in an 80 or so and he'll be pushing 150k. I'll be looking at Balic and Fisher over him, but if Balic doesn't get named...might go with Hardwick.

I reckon if you're trading a Eddy/Pickett type to him than I'm all for that, but if you're doing a downgrade and he becomes your F6/7 then that could be risky

I don't hate the pick and it could work, but the JS has to be the biggest worry and you'd think Fisher and even Balic have better JS

He'd probs be my F7, but as I said, only if Balic isn't named ;)

[LordSneeze]

Balic

Leave Hardwick as another POD rookie for me. Williamson last week, Hardwick this.

Have spoken to several Hawks people and they all think his JS is too dicey

Not often Clarko brings in a junior and plays them all year around

Pass for me

I dunno. He only needs to play like 4 more games to make 100k (assuming he keeps up a 60+ avg). Chuck in an 80 or so and he'll be pushing 150k. I'll be looking at Balic and Fisher over him, but if Balic doesn't get named...might go with Hardwick.

I reckon if you're trading a Eddy/Pickett type to him than I'm all for that, but if you're doing a downgrade and he becomes your F6/7 then that could be risky

I don't hate the pick and it could work, but the JS has to be the biggest worry and you'd think Fisher and even Balic have better JS

He'd probs be my F7, but as I said, only if Balic isn't named ;)

Yeah he is coming in as my F7 and loophole for this week.
Ive spoken to a few Hawks fans aswell and quite a few of them think that he has shown enough to get a few more games and be around the mark even if dropped.

Balics JS is better, but I don't feel that Fishers is much better.

[batt]

I always refer to Knightmare's stuff because I think it's fantastic for summarising.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2015-draft-almanac.1091303/
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2016-draft-almanac.1131236/


19. Zac Fisher (WA)

Best position: Inside midfield/outside midfield
Height, weight: 175cm, 61kg
Recruited from: Perth
Plays like: Lachie Neale
Projected draft range: second to third round
Rated last month: 19
Rationale behind ranking/change of ranking: Numbers and quality of performances during the AFL Under-18 Championships and at WAFL League very advanced.

Strengths:
- Production
- Stoppage work
- Wins first possession at stoppages
- Contested-ball winning
- Tackling
- Clean hands
- Precise footskills
- Vision
- Decision-making
- Acceleration and burst away from stoppages
- Agility
- Evasiveness
-Performances vs. WAFL League competition

Weaknesses:
- Size by position
- Unclear versatility


17. Harley Balic (VIC â€" MID/FWD)

Height: 186cm, Weight: 80kg, DOB: 05/01/1997
Recruited from: Sandringham Dragons
Reminds me of: Poor man’s Jackson Macrae

Brief bio: Balic has some tricks and plays with that basketballer several other recent draftees have. Balic stands out most with his decision making ability and vision with ball in hand. He consistently chooses the right option and often finds some really damaging targets. In terms of execution while he has the vision and decision making ability by hand and foot it can be a mixed bag as sometimes he will hit his targets, and other times miss. Similarly finishing from set shots and field kicks at goal further improvement is required as he lacks consistency in front of goal. He is also more of a short-medium distance kicker as someone with only average penetration. A further strength of Balic’s is his strength of marking overhead with his leaping ability making him a threat in the air which gives him potential to play forward of centre. Athletically Balic is good overall. He is not a linebreaking threat but moves well, has strong endurance and excellent leaping ability. As a contested ball winner Balic at this stage is not a factor as someone who is a receiver at this point.

32. Blake Hardwick (VIC â€" FWD/MID)

Height: 181cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB: 05/02/1997
Recruited from: Eastern Ranges
Reminds me of: Sam Lloyd

Brief bio: Hardwick is a high volume goal kicking small forward who seems always to be in the right place at the right time and has had some big hauls this season including 12, 10 and 8 goals this season in the TAC Cup. He is very much someone with a goal first, goal second, pass third mentality, as someone who will when he senses any opportunity will go for goal himself. Hardwick is mostly a marking forward who has only average hands overhead but leads to the right spots, gets to the drop of the ball and finds the spaces left behind in the forward 50m. He isn’t a particularly gifted ground level player or a particularly outstanding pressure forward. Hardwick has only on a small few occasions pushed up the field and at the next level I imagine he will need to integrate this into his game to have an AFL career. The times he has pushed up into the midfield he has found the footy to a reasonable standard but has lacked impact with his influence moderate-low. Hardwick has a reasonable powerful build and strongish body, he has good acceleration but is not overly agile and lacks any freakishly quickness.

[Toga]

Grant Birchall back next week has to be a consideration...?