Which Fallen Prems?

[RaisyDaisy]

Pretty much same as this

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108264.0.html

[eaglesman]

Pretty much same as this

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108264.0.html

Ok I didn't think so as I was talking mid pricers as well

[RaisyDaisy]

Fair enough man, although it seems kinda similar considering a lot of the players you listed were either fallen prems or just below elite

In terms of your list, I wouldn't bother with any of the defenders you listed. So many good options down back this year that I can't see any of them getting close to Top 10, and at their prices they would need to be so I would pass

Beams, Murphy and Swallow are the clear stand out value options in the mids. I guess you could roll the dice on the other mids you listed to try and breakout, but again I think picking Beams/Swallow with proven elite mids is the right choice and won't be looking to pick break out contenders

Sandi in the ruck will be very popular, and the man himself recently said he is 100% and is in full training

Forwards are going to be the hard line I think this year. Heaps of defenders and mids to chose to lock in, but picking the right forwards could be the difference between starting really well or middle of the pack

Seeing as you're asking about mid price break out options Heeney would be the one I'd go with. If Roughy and Bennell line up Rd 1 they more or less have to be picked IMO, although I don't expect Bennell to be ready (which I would prefer to avoid the decision lol) but Roughy I'd love to see and lock in

As someone who tried mid pricers for the first time this year, I got burnt hard and I'm sticking with the proven GnR approach, with only proven fallen prems included like Fyfe, Beams, Sandi, Rough etc

[quinny88]

Fair enough man, although it seems kinda similar considering a lot of the players you listed were either fallen prems or just below elite

In terms of your list, I wouldn't bother with any of the defenders you listed. So many good options down back this year that I can't see any of them getting close to Top 10, and at their prices they would need to be so I would pass

Beams, Murphy and Swallow are the clear stand out value options in the mids. I guess you could roll the dice on the other mids you listed to try and breakout, but again I think picking Beams/Swallow with proven elite mids is the right choice and won't be looking to pick break out contenders

Sandi in the ruck will be very popular, and the man himself recently said he is 100% and is in full training

Forwards are going to be the hard line I think this year. Heaps of defenders and mids to chose to lock in, but picking the right forwards could be the difference between starting really well or middle of the pack

Seeing as you're asking about mid price break out options Heeney would be the one I'd go with. If Roughy and Bennell line up Rd 1 they more or less have to be picked IMO, although I don't expect Bennell to be ready (which I would prefer to avoid the decision lol) but Roughy I'd love to see and lock in

As someone who tried mid pricers for the first time this year, I got burnt hard and I'm sticking with the proven GnR approach, with only proven fallen prems included like Fyfe, Beams, Sandi, Rough etc

What's your opinion on Bob Murphy in the backs RD? Surely some good value there at 380k for a guy capable of being top 10. Returning from the knee obviously the main concern

[RaisyDaisy]

What's your opinion on Bob Murphy in the backs RD? Surely some good value there at 380k for a guy capable of being top 10. Returning from the knee obviously the main concern

He's a pass for me - seems like a trap

Started this year well obviously, averaging 103 but 3 games isn't enough to really bank on so if we look at the two years prior he averaged 91.8 and 88.5

Now if we look at the list of defenders for 2017 I can't see how he comes close to Top 10. I think Bob can average 90-95ish which would be good in previous years, but with all the additions this year I can't see him being in the cream of the crop, and his injury and age has to be factored too I think

Docherty, Simpson, Shaw, Boyd, Montagna, Rance, Adams, Laird, JJ, Vince, TMac, Houli, McVeigh, Hodge, Harltlett and so on

For 390k he wouldn't be the worst D6, but if you want the best of the best he's a pass for me

[Ringo]

What's your opinion on Bob Murphy in the backs RD? Surely some good value there at 380k for a guy capable of being top 10. Returning from the knee obviously the main concern

He's a pass for me - seems like a trap

Started this year well obviously, averaging 103 but 3 games isn't enough to really bank on so if we look at the two years prior he averaged 91.8 and 88.5

Now if we look at the list of defenders for 2017 I can't see how he comes close to Top 10. I think Bob can average 90-95ish which would be good in previous years, but with all the additions this year I can't see him being in the cream of the crop, and his injury and age has to be factored too I think

Docherty, Simpson, Shaw, Boyd, Montagna, Rance, Adams, Laird, JJ, Vince, TMac, Houli, McVeigh, Hodge, Harltlett and so on

For 390k he wouldn't be the worst D6, but if you want the best of the best he's a pass for me

Shaun Burgoyne was the 10th Averaging defender last year with 94.7.  So If Bob can get close to that than I will be happy with a price tag of $392k -

[eaglesman]

Fair enough man, although it seems kinda similar considering a lot of the players you listed were either fallen prems or just below elite

In terms of your list, I wouldn't bother with any of the defenders you listed. So many good options down back this year that I can't see any of them getting close to Top 10, and at their prices they would need to be so I would pass

Beams, Murphy and Swallow are the clear stand out value options in the mids. I guess you could roll the dice on the other mids you listed to try and breakout, but again I think picking Beams/Swallow with proven elite mids is the right choice and won't be looking to pick break out contenders

Sandi in the ruck will be very popular, and the man himself recently said he is 100% and is in full training

Forwards are going to be the hard line I think this year. Heaps of defenders and mids to chose to lock in, but picking the right forwards could be the difference between starting really well or middle of the pack

Seeing as you're asking about mid price break out options Heeney would be the one I'd go with. If Roughy and Bennell line up Rd 1 they more or less have to be picked IMO, although I don't expect Bennell to be ready (which I would prefer to avoid the decision lol) but Roughy I'd love to see and lock in

As someone who tried mid pricers for the first time this year, I got burnt hard and I'm sticking with the proven GnR approach, with only proven fallen prems included like Fyfe, Beams, Sandi, Rough etc

I made a team in 5 minutes and haven't looked into bye situation, but for me the forward line was the easiest position to pick!

Dahl macrae buddy heeney nankervis and then I moved on to other lines. Seems straightforward those selections. Prob have to pick roughy before buddy if he all good to go. But gee just seemed so easy.

[RaisyDaisy]

Dahl, Macrae, Rough are easy, and I really like Heeney as an option but I don't see any other stand out easy choices, but that's just me

I was more so referring to which forwards will be the best as being the hardest line to pick because Dahl and Macrae should easily be Top 5-10, but there aren't many other prems that I'm loving atm

Anyway, plenty of time to go and see

[Money Shot]

I know he was never really a 'premium' but what happened to Trent McKenzie? didn't he average above 80 for a few seasons in a row and then all of a sudden drop off?

I'm assuming a role change? or was it injury?

[Jukes]

I know he was never really a 'premium' but what happened to Trent McKenzie? didn't he average above 80 for a few seasons in a row and then all of a sudden drop off?

I'm assuming a role change? or was it injury?

Both injuries (nose, ankle, quad, and groin last season, hammy the two before that) and being a spud

[Money Shot]

I know that one season isn't enough to be classified as a premium but do we know why KK from Gold Coast dropped off so significantly in points? Was it a role change that had him playing more of a key defender role?

If so do we think he can get up to a 85-90 avg again?

[fasttrack13]

I know that one season isn't enough to be classified as a premium but do we know why KK from Gold Coast dropped off so significantly in points? Was it a role change that had him playing more of a key defender role?

If so do we think he can get up to a 85-90 avg again?

Not a player you should be thinking about picking... I don't like R.murphy as a pick at all this year but i'd be selecting him before McKenzie in a heartbeat

[Big Mac]

I know that one season isn't enough to be classified as a premium but do we know why KK from Gold Coast dropped off so significantly in points? Was it a role change that had him playing more of a key defender role?

If so do we think he can get up to a 85-90 avg again?

Not a player you should be thinking about picking... I don't like R.murphy as a pick at all this year but i'd be selecting him before McKenzie in a heartbeat

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[GoLions]

I know that one season isn't enough to be classified as a premium but do we know why KK from Gold Coast dropped off so significantly in points? Was it a role change that had him playing more of a key defender role?

If so do we think he can get up to a 85-90 avg again?

Not a player you should be thinking about picking... I don't like R.murphy as a pick at all this year but i'd be selecting him before McKenzie in a heartbeat

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Could not agree with you more there BM

[fasttrack13]

I know that one season isn't enough to be classified as a premium but do we know why KK from Gold Coast dropped off so significantly in points? Was it a role change that had him playing more of a key defender role?

If so do we think he can get up to a 85-90 avg again?

Not a player you should be thinking about picking... I don't like R.murphy as a pick at all this year but i'd be selecting him before McKenzie in a heartbeat

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Could not agree with you more there BM

Ooops, read mckenzie earlier...