Which Fallen Prems?

Started by RaisyDaisy, December 05, 2016, 11:53:31 PM

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_wato

Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 06, 2016, 06:06:37 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 06, 2016, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 06, 2016, 10:09:54 AM
Dayne Beams and thats it.

not going near Sandi im not wasting trades in the rucks.

Goldy Grundy too good value both underpriced.

mids im going Premo

I don't see Grundy as having any better scoring potential than Sandi has apart from the injury issues. Surely you're still going to want Gawn in there at some stage?

Grundy gets more stats and tackles... I reckon if he cracks down on his clangers he could push above 105, but i reckon he will improve to 100 give or take a couple of points.

Yes but that doesn't make a good SC scoring ruckman. HOTA is where the points are at. Hence Gawn, Goldy, NN are the top 3 rucks.
If you honestly see Grundy hitting 100 give or take a few points (95-105) then you're gonna lose a lot of points on Goldy/Gawn at (110-120)
Also don't think Grundy as good as he is will ever be a really big scorer due to not being the greatest tap ruckman. Will be consistent 90-110 but will rarely punch out 130+ (Dunno if he ever has)

quinny88

Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 06, 2016, 06:06:37 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 06, 2016, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 06, 2016, 10:09:54 AM
Dayne Beams and thats it.

not going near Sandi im not wasting trades in the rucks.

Goldy Grundy too good value both underpriced.

mids im going Premo

I don't see Grundy as having any better scoring potential than Sandi has apart from the injury issues. Surely you're still going to want Gawn in there at some stage?

Grundy gets more stats and tackles... I reckon if he cracks down on his clangers he could push above 105, but i reckon he will improve to 100 give or take a couple of points.

Yeah very different player to Sandi but Sandi will always score big with his dominanation in the hitouts.
100-105 from Grundy is certainly gettable but you're missing 20 ppg having him over Gawn.
Sandi only 308k so can be a stepping stone to Gawn and will most likely score similar to Grundy

fasttrack13

With that though, you're banking on Sandilands playing week in week out and staying fit...
I don't have much luck with bettin so I'd probably lose my money sayin this but I'd put a fair bit of money on  Grundy bein more likely to average 105+ thank sandi playing enough early games to be that stepping stone to Gawn

Ricochet

Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 07, 2016, 03:04:35 PM
With that though, you're banking on Sandilands playing week in week out and staying fit...
I don't have much luck with bettin so I'd probably lose my money sayin this but I'd put a fair bit of money on  Grundy bein more likely to average 105+ thank sandi playing enough early games to be that stepping stone to Gawn
Atm i'm going with Ryder in the fwd line as cover in case Sandi misses one.

Gives us a good chance to see who the 2nd best ruckman is for the year

crowls

Quote from: Ricochet on December 07, 2016, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 07, 2016, 03:04:35 PM
With that though, you're banking on Sandilands playing week in week out and staying fit...
I don't have much luck with bettin so I'd probably lose my money sayin this but I'd put a fair bit of money on  Grundy bein more likely to average 105+ thank sandi playing enough early games to be that stepping stone to Gawn
Atm i'm going with Ryder in the fwd line as cover in case Sandi misses one.

Gives us a good chance to see who the 2nd best ruckman is for the year
certainly an option to consider over Gawn/Goldy to start.   

Ringo

Quote from: Ricochet on December 07, 2016, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 07, 2016, 03:04:35 PM
With that though, you're banking on Sandilands playing week in week out and staying fit...
I don't have much luck with bettin so I'd probably lose my money sayin this but I'd put a fair bit of money on  Grundy bein more likely to average 105+ thank sandi playing enough early games to be that stepping stone to Gawn
Atm i'm going with Ryder in the fwd line as cover in case Sandi misses one.

Gives us a good chance to see who the 2nd best ruckman is for the year
And if you look at 2014 and 2015 Sandi only missed 1 game each of those seasons so for me it is a risk worth taking and averaged over 105 both  seasons as well.

RaisyDaisy


Bully

Quote from: Ricochet on December 07, 2016, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 07, 2016, 03:04:35 PM
With that though, you're banking on Sandilands playing week in week out and staying fit...
I don't have much luck with bettin so I'd probably lose my money sayin this but I'd put a fair bit of money on  Grundy bein more likely to average 105+ thank sandi playing enough early games to be that stepping stone to Gawn
Atm i'm going with Ryder in the fwd line as cover in case Sandi misses one.

Gives us a good chance to see who the 2nd best ruckman is for the year

Always a good strategy.

Mat0369

Witts is 200k or so as well. I reckon GC have recruited him to be the number 1 ruck, then again the same thing was said about Currie last year.

GoLions

Quote from: Mat0369 on December 08, 2016, 01:46:43 AM
Witts is 200k or so as well. I reckon GC have recruited him to be the number 1 ruck, then again the same thing was said about Currie last year.
Not the #1 ruck, just to cover Nicholls (and possibly Currie) who are always injured :P

Mat0369

Quote from: GoLions on December 08, 2016, 01:50:09 AM
Not the #1 ruck, just to cover Nicholls (and possibly Currie) who are always injured :P

So basically three injury prone rucks and hope one is healthy at any given time of the year.

GoLions

Quote from: Mat0369 on December 08, 2016, 01:59:40 AM
Quote from: GoLions on December 08, 2016, 01:50:09 AM
Not the #1 ruck, just to cover Nicholls (and possibly Currie) who are always injured :P

So basically three injury prone rucks and hope one is healthy at any given time of the year.
Pretty much!

eaglesman

There is so much value this year and with what will be the most competitive season(imo) ever I think I'll look at a mid price strategy this season and multiple low end prem mids.

Watchlist.
Def.
Tuohy, mills, jmartin, hibberd, kkolo,

Mid.
Shiel wines viney(backed him for roughie Brownlow chance already) armitage, crouch, Hanley, beams, murphy, Steele, omeara swallow.

Ruck.
Jacobs, sandi.

Forward
Ismith, heeney, ryder, hopper nankervis, boyd, cam ellis yolmen

Thoughts on these?

Feel free to add others.

fasttrack13

Jmart, Wines, Viney, Beams, Murphy, Swallow, Sandi, Heeney, Ryder, Nank, CEY are probably the only ones i'd consider picking...

If youre going to go mid-price anywhere it would probably be the forwards given the lack of real premiums there, anywhere else personally doesn't hold any validity with the plethora of Quality defender and midfield premiums and then the minimum amount of rookies needed to fill the rest of the spaces.

I'd like to see what your team would look like given you went a mid-price strategy?

quinny88

Only low end prems/mid pricers im considering this year are the ones coming back from injury or suspension.
Learnt my lesson of going with guys in the hope they will go to the next level.

Current guys on the radar are:
D: Bob Murphy, Michael Hibberd
M: Dayne Beams, Dyson Heppell
R: Sandilands
F: Bennell, Ryder, Roughy