DC 2017 Team Thread

Started by DMCC10, December 05, 2016, 07:40:58 PM

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crowls

Nice looking team,  super strong in Fwds and light in backs.  Likely to be able to bring in prem backs at cheap prices during season so a good strategy.   Just do not see where the money for Danger is going to come from.

DMCC10

DEF: Adams, Laird, Hartlett, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman (Ryan, Stewart)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, JPK, Rockliff, Fyfe, Beams, Murphy, Swallow (Myers, SPP, Graham)
RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Heeney, Ryder, Bennell, Roughead, Pickett, Black (Brown, Eddy)

crowls

wow lot of depth in this team DC.       great mix in the forward line.    personally I am not sold on heeney being a 100 plus forward and this is what you need from F1.    I was all over Bennell last year and if he is ready to play this year will be a starter in my team as well.   roughy may be a wait and see for me, though getting the Hawks captaincy has me looking at him more now, as he strikes me as sort of bloke that would lead from the front.   Also his recovery must be a lot better than I was expecting.




DMCC10

DEF: Adams, HH, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman, Ryan (Hibberd, Stewart)

Really like the 2-0-6 defensive structure this year as I think the best scoring rookies will be from the backline. Obviously this is my line of sacrifice as I am finding it hard to fork out premium money in defence with uncertainties about a lot of the higher priced premiums with regards to age (30+), role changes, and lack of value. Adams is just 23 years old and has huge scoring potential (averaged 115.8 from last 7 full games of 2015 and had a low score of 88 from full games up until R20 in 2016). The issue with Adams is his durability, however if he can stay fit, he is an absolute lock as a defender as I can see him averaging 105 and being top 3. Hartlett is 26 years old and entering SC prime age, he has always had the talent, but just needs to add better consistency to his game. Il be watching his pre season closely regarding his position, but if he plays in the midfield in NAB challenge he is huge value for his price. Prior to his poor 2016 season, without including subbed games he has averaged 92, 91, 91, 102, 101 in the previous 5 seasons, therefore if he can get back to his best, he is 20ppg underpriced. Averaged 114 from his last 8 games of 2015 so has the proven ability to score very highly and as a defender that is very valuable scoring. Scharenberg was a former #6 draft pick who has been extremely unlucky with injuries, however if he can get on the park he is a steal at his $164k starting price. Collingwood need his elite foot skills coming out of the defensive half and his back into full training which is a positive. If he gets named R1 he is locked in. Hampton was out for the majority of 2016 with a foot injury, he played the last couple of months in the SANFL which makes him cheap as chips for 2017. Has potential and has been training with the midfield group at Adelaide. In 2014 at GWS he averaged 79.1 from his 10 full games, including a decent average of 88.9 in his first 7 games (78, 110, 89, 109, 66, 92, 78). At $160k his a lock if named R1. Newman is 23 years old, has a mature body and has now had 2 seasons to develop in the NEAFL. With McVeigh getting older, Sydney fan forums have Newman starting as the HBF in their best 22 for 2017. Averaged 28 disposals per game in the NEAFL but most importantly 21 of them were kicks so his 3:1 kick-to-handball ratio will promote better SC scoring. Received a two-year contract extension so they consider him as an important player and his finish to the NEAFL season was huge winning BOG honours in the grand final. In the final 14 games of the NEAFL season his lowest disposal tally was 23, indicating his consistency is quite good. Ryan is a mature aged half back flanker from the VFL who was the winner of the VFL Rising Star award in 2016. Fremantle have snapped him up which is good for SC as he will most likely get games as they look towards youth. He won the most intercept possessions of any player in the VFL which is huge for SC, and is evident by his average of 105pts. Looks the likely type to get early games and at his price is a lock. Hibberd is a big possession winner and elite runner and back when he was in the U18 championships he averaged 121pts. Lots of departures from NM opens opportunities for younger guys and he is now training with the midfield group which is a good sign. Stewart is another mature aged player who played 18 games with Geelong's VFL team in 2016 averaging 17 disposals and 81SC points per game, looks solid for some games and bench cover.

MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, GAJ, Rockliff, JPK, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow (Myers, SPP, Graham)

The money saved by going cheaper in defence has allowed me to completely load up on super premiums in the midfield, and although some are high injury risks, I have only picked M1-M7 players that have a previous history of 120+ SC season averages. Dangerfield is locked despite his price tag as he is a massive scorer, a great captain option, and is extremely durable. Scored above 120+ on 17 occasions in 2016 (8 games above 140), took him out once but just didn't feel right. With Collingwood likely to improve in 2017, Pendlebury will be the main driving force. Although he has been earmarked for more forward time, I see him playing majority of his time in the midfield with stints in the forward line which may actually assist his scores. His durable, extremely consistent, and with previous season averages of 129, 125, 127, 124, 116, 119 he is very hard to overlook. GAJ is a massive risk at his age and injuries, but its not every day you get to call him a bit of a POD. After giving up the captaincy he is focused on returning to full fitness and on his footy. He will get more FWD time, but they still need him in the midfield, looks very fit in match simulations and happy to give the little champ one final season in my side. Despite his injury affected past 3 seasons, without his injury games, in this time he has averaged 130.75 from 32 full games. Rockliff is one of the best SC scorers in the game and has a huge ceiling. Brisbane forums are saying his looking the fittest they have ever seen him, and with the off-season problems he will be looking to recapture his best footy after he admitted losing his love for the game in 2016. Averaged 125.75 from the last 12 games of 2016 with 50% of those games 130+. Scoring is evident, just needs to stay fit and I'm taking the risk in hope that he does. JPK is as consistent and durable as they come, past 5 years inc. finals he has averaged 120, 107, 117, 113, 114 and with Mitchell gone he has more need to collect contested ball, and should lead from the front as captain. Fyfe is huge value as when fit he is an absolute SC scoring machine with season averages of 122 and 124 (135 from his first 12 games of 2015 before the Mitchell knee) prior to last year. Extremely underpriced at an average of 106, heres hoping he gets back to his best and stays injury free in 2017. Beams has been injury prone since arriving at Brisbane however when he gets on the park he delivers. In his past 3 seasons where he has played 15 games or more, his unsubbed averages are 123 in 2012, 118 in 2014, and 121 in 2015 from R3-15 before injury struck. Theres no doubt his an injury risk, but when his priced at an average of 80 and averages around 120 when he plays, he is considerably underpriced and huge value if fit in round 1. Swallow is cheap as chips at $280k and priced at an average of 52, he is extremely underpriced and will be a great stepping stone to a premium. With Prestia and JOM gone his reliance through the midfield will be increased, and his in full pre season training and looking fit. Averaged 103 in 2014 so has the scoring ability, just needs to get on the park. I see him averaging 90-95 which makes him 40ppg underpriced. Myers has to be a lock if named for R1 and looks fit. Priced as a rookie at $133k, this makes him priced at a ridiculous average of 25. He has scoring ability as evident by his 2014 season where he averaged 86 (95 from R16-22). I expect around 75-80 from Myers if he plays which makes him 50ppg underpriced. SPP is a contested beast with a ready made AFL body and looks ready to step into the Port Adelaide midfield in R1. An elite runner, he averaged 22 disposals, 3 tackles and 1.5 goals per game in the U18 competition, and in addition to this he averaged 120SC points for the WAFL colts. His down fall is that he gives away free kicks and apparently has a shocking kicking efficiency, therefore he may not be all that SC friendly when he misses targets at AFL level, but we will wait and see. Graham surprisingly slipped a long way in the draft to pick 53 which makes him basement rookie priced. He has the body to make an early impact and won the Larke Medal as the best player in the U18 National Championships with an average of 25 disposals and 5 clearances a game. Loves contested ball which again is good for SC scoring and if given the early opportunity will also be a good cash cow.

RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)

Gawn had a massive 2016 with a huge average of 125 between R3-21 (which mind you includes a crappy 49 and 63), and with 5 scores above 160+ he also becomes a good captain option. Can't see him going any lower than 110 and his only 24 years old which is young for a ruck man, therefore he has the potential to improve and average 120+ so his locked. Sandilands is huge value and although he is older, with the third man rule implemented, I think he will score a lot of points from HTA due to his massive height advantage, has scoring history when he plays but have Ryder forward incase he gets injured. Strnadica provides the DPP link and is also a good captain loophole option.

FWD: Deledio, Heeney, Ryder, Bennell, McCluggage, Pickett (Rioli, Eddy)

Deledio is an injury risk but 2016 was injury affected and his first season under 100 since 2007. Lets just remember 2015 where he averaged 112.8pts as a high half forward. Training with the GWS forward group at the moment I think he will play a similar role. GWS will win more games and the ball will be in the forward half a lot more than what he had at Richmond. I think he will get back to 100+ this year and has upside and value from his current price. Heeney is a bit of a risk as at the price he is he really needs to become a premium averaging 95+ but I think Heeney is more than capable of doing that. Averaged 97.6 from the last 8 games of the season when he moved into the midfield more and with Tom Mitchell gone he looks like the one to take more midfield minutes. After some research into Heeney, I found that from his 11 games in his career (I know, relatively small sample size but still interesting) where he has had 18+ disposals he averages 110.7 and has a low score of 84 in the GF. With more midfield time I think he can breakout in his third season. Ryder is priced very well for someone who I think will be a top 10 forward. He has the added benefit of providing cover for Sandi, however despite having a year off I think if he gets the #1 ruck role at PA without Lobbe in the side he will really flourish. Research into his games at Essendon without Bellchambers between 2012-2014 had him averaging 107 from 21 games (included scores of 133, 140, 152, 165) which is massive and the reason I've locked him in for now. If Bennell can overcomes his calf issues and is ready for R1 I think he presents huge value as his scoring ability is to a premium standard. In his previous 4 seasons he has averaged 97, 96, 96 and 102 so he can score, and the fact he is priced at 72 he is underpriced for what he is capable of. McCluggage was the #3 draft pick, has loads of talent and was regarded as the #1 pick by majority of club recruiters. Averaged 28 disposals and 2 goals per game in the TAC Cup and should get early games at Brisbane on a HFF rotating through the midfield despite his small frame due to his elite skill, class and decision making. Pickett was a former #4 draft pick is now bargain priced after not playing the past couple of seasons and should finally get a run at it at Carlton in 2017. I'm not expecting massive scores from him as he is a small forward, however he should have good J/S and become a slow cash cow, at least he should play though. Rioli will not be a big scorer but Adam Simpson has said theres a small forward spot for him and its his to lose. Eddy is a mature aged recruit that is a KPF so not expecting big scores but still managed to average 91SC points in the SANFL. He should play as Port Adelaide wouldn't recruit a 27 year old without the intention of playing him.

Ringo

Well explained. Risky structure but could pay off.
I say risky because having 4 rookies play each week is a little much in my opinion. Would be more comfortable with a stronger D2 than Hartlett. If going with 2 prem defenders you would need to ensure that the 2 you pick will be in Top 5 and do not see Hartlett being one.
Also concerned with Heeney as well as he will be competing with Mills and Lloyd to fill those midfield minutes left by Mitchells departure
No comments on rookies as we do not know which will start come RD 1 but you have wriggle room. 

Money Shot

Very interesting in regards to Heeney definitely on my radar now.

PureSwag

These are some improvements that can be made to your team.

Def: I don't think you should have 2 Prem. It's a big risk but could pay off. I think maybe you should downgrade one of your prem mids for a gun def like a Shaw or a Docherty.

Mid: One or Two to many Prem need more rooks in there. Like the JPK pick with Tom gone he might be going for 120+ Other then that Your Mid is good.

Ruck: No Fault just like mine the only thing is keep an eye on sandi and we need to see what scores he puts up. For me need to be at least 95+ as I like having two elite Ruck.

Fwd: Deledio at a new club might be good but with a stacked GWS mid I don't know what scores he will be putting up but will need to look at him in the JLT Cup. Henney has been on my radar every since tom moved to the hawks and he will get more mid time and he won't be ever getting tagged as teams will be going after Hanners and JPK. Bennell even tho his cheap I'm not sure about him will need to watch in JPK, if he does go well I might get him but his a big injury risk. The last thing is your fwd line is a big injury risk.

Other then that nice team I like it.

DMCC10

I'm expecting a bit of criticism in relation to picking risky 'midprice' players but I think the value of some players in the $350-$450k area are too good to pass up this year, many of whom I think have great potential to be keepers in their positions, and if not, money will be definitely be made to side swap at some point. Really not a fan of the forward line this year so I have gone for value here, but despite no straight up premiums, I think all picks are capable of 90-100. I like this team as it has great depth and balance through all positions and the fact that I only have to start with 5 rookies all of whom I think are decent scoring options early (Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman, McCluggage, Knight). Have $2,200 leftover

DEF: Adams, Laird, Hartlett, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman (Ryan, Stewart)
MID: Pendlebury, GAJ, Rockliff, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, Murphy, Swallow (Myers, SPP, Jarman)
RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Heeney, Ryder, Bennell, Roughead, McCluggage, Knight (Smith, Eddy)

Money Shot

Actually like the side a lot.

Think you need Danger in your mids and Dahl and Macrae in your forwards.

Roughead to Pickett

Heeney and Bennell to Dahl and Macrae would be something I would consider

As Dahl/Macrae/Pickett is a lot safer than Heeney/Bennell/Roughead

Ringo

Got no problems with your structure - Calculated risks with mid pricers and you will be ok if all fire.

No Danger may be a worry early especially if he starts strong and may make it hard for you to get in later.

Also feel you need one of the high priced forwards but you have explained reasonings.

Different team to others but a good one to sit on.

PureSwag

1. Need Danger even tho he is alot its worth it. He can get 130 every week which is worth 700k.

2. Dahlhau and Macrae are must to

3. Get rid of Roughead maybe for a rook to get Dahl and Macare.

DMCC10

Thanks for the feedback fellas, appreciate the responses and have taken them on board, didn't have enough to get Macrae as well but happy with the value of Bennell/Roughead (both priced at 71 & 67 respectively) who could both end up premiums. Heeney and Ryder I still think will have good years, but at that $420-430 price range I really need them to become keepers which is a bit risky, especially Ryder who has been out of the game for the year coming off a 85.5 average season. Roughead is 70k cheaper for a likely similar output to Ryder and at the very least will make cash to swap to a fallen premo. Let me know what you think, cheers guys.

DEF: Adams, Laird, Hartlett, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman (Ryan, Hibberd)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, GAJ, Rockliff, Fyfe, Beams, Murphy, Swallow (Myers, SPP, Graham)
RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Bennell, Roughead, McCluggage, Knight, Bowes (Pickett, Eddy)

SALARY: $8,400

Sabretooth Tigers

 :)


Perhaps, pending his mid time in JLT, Heeney back into the forward line by :-
Murphy out, Bennell goes mid in his place and Heeney forward.

;)

PureSwag

I like your team but the only issue I have is Marc Murphy I think maybe there are better options and maybe even cheaper options.

Money Shot

Pretty good side overall mate.

Sandi got injured (should still be right for round one) but it just shows how important it is to have cover for him if you start. I think you need Ryder if you start Sandi. That's just my two cents worth.