DC 2017 Team Thread

[DMCC10]

DEF: Docherty, Adams, Hartlett, Kolodjashnij, Hampton, Newman (Vickers-Willis, Sprole)
MID: Dangerfield, Fyfe, Bontempelli, Treloar, T. Mitchell, Beams, Swallow, Myers (Powell-Pepper, Wigg, Graham)
RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder, Bennell, Hardwick, Pickett (Bolton, Eddy)

[quinny88]

Tossing up weather to Hartlett myself. You know why he was so down this year?
Nice team :)

[DMCC10]

Not sure tbh Quinny, had a few injury issues but just an off year by the looks of it. Hopefully he gets back to his form of 90+ from the 5 previous seasons. Latest version of my team is looking like this:

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Montagna, Adams, Hartlett, Scharenberg (Newman, Ryan)
MID: Dangerfield, Fyfe, Murphy, Beams, JOM, Swallow, Myers, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Wigg, Graham)
RUC: Ryder, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Deledio, Macrae, Heeney, Bennell, Pickett (Bolton, Eddy)

[fasttrack13]

Not sure tbh Quinny, had a few injury issues but just an off year by the looks of it. Hopefully he gets back to his form of 90+ from the 5 previous seasons. Latest version of my team is looking like this:

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Montagna, Adams, Hartlett, Scharenberg (Newman, Ryan)
MID: Dangerfield, Fyfe, Murphy, Beams, JOM, Swallow, Myers, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Wigg, Graham)
RUC: Ryder, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Deledio, Macrae, Heeney, Bennell, Pickett (Bolton, Eddy)

Beams, Murphy, Jaeger... what scores do you expect from them?

[dmac07]

Not sure tbh Quinny, had a few injury issues but just an off year by the looks of it. Hopefully he gets back to his form of 90+ from the 5 previous seasons. Latest version of my team is looking like this:

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Montagna, Adams, Hartlett, Scharenberg (Newman, Ryan)
MID: Dangerfield, Fyfe, Murphy, Beams, JOM, Swallow, Myers, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Wigg, Graham)
RUC: Ryder, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Deledio, Macrae, Heeney, Bennell, Pickett (Bolton, Eddy)

Think the midfield is understacked, only 2 sure keepers in there, I'd be aiming for 4-5 probably. Just way too many mid price 'maybe' keepers for me, some will work but you have a lot. Hartlett, Murphy, Beams, JOM, Swallow, Ryder, Sandi, Heeney, Bennell all are maybes or coming off injury or have unknown roles this year. Id pick one or two of that to swap for rookies, and get in an extra mid top liner.

[DMCC10]

Hey guys, really happy with my current side so thought I'd do a bit of an analysis into each position with detailed information regarding why I chose the players i did. For those reading the whole thing, apologies in advance for the depth of information. I have literally used up every cent of my salary cap and have $0 leftover, however I have managed to select everyone i want. Cheers and look forward to hearing your thoughts.

DEF: Adams, Hartlett, McGrath, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman (Ryan, Stewart)

Obviously this is my line of sacrifice as I am finding it hard to fork out premium money in defence with uncertainties about a lot of the higher priced premiums in regards to age (30+), role changes, and the impact of player departures on their role. In addition to this, many may disagree, however I feel the defence is where the good rookie selections are in 2017. For that reason I decided to only pick one 500k + player being Taylor Adams. Adams has obviously had his fair share of injuries so also comes as a risk, however he is just 23 years of age and has improving to do with huge upside and scoring ability as shown by averaging 115.8 in his last 9 full games of 2015 and 102.2 from his full games in 2016...as a defender he is a lock for my side. Next I've gone with Hamish Hartlett who again comes with risks, however I feel he is good value as a defender and is underpriced for what he is capable of making him a good POD and D5/D6 with an expected average of approx 90-100. McGrath should get early games and averaged a massive 145SC points in the TAC cup so halve that and I'd be happy with his output, Weitering was a decent pick last season, and I think McGrath could do even better. Scharenberg has a fire in his belly to repay faith to the pies and is back into full training, plus Collingwood need his precise kicking coming out of defence, therefore I see him as good value and someone who should get games. Hampton has called for more midfield time at the Crows and due to a foot injury ruining his 2016 season, he is now priced very cheap. Hampton averaged 75 in 2014 at GWS (averaged 91 from his first 6 games) so the scoring potential is there, just needs to get on the park. Newman I think will start getting regular games at the Swans next year as McVeigh is aging, and spots have opened up for their best 22. Newman has a mature body at 23yo and has been developed through the NEAFL for the past 2 seasons and the club regard him important as they gave him a 2 year contract extension towards the end of the season. He averaged 21 kicks per game in the NEAFL which is handy for SC scoring as his kick-to-handball ratio is 3:1. Ryan is a mature VFL product who had the most intercept possessions in the league making him SC relevant, and due to the rebuild at Fremantle he should get early games. Stewart is a key defender that still managed 17 possessions a game and 81SC points in the VFL so he still likes to get his hands on the ball which is promising, and Geelong wouldn't have picked up a 24yo unless they want games from him.

MID: Dangerfield, Fyfe, JPK, Sloane, Treloar, Beams, Swallow, Myers (Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Jarman)

Decided to go strong in the midfield with a few PODs. Danger...lock. Fyfe is too good of value to overlook with his 120+ scoring potential. I have then gone with 3 premiums that I consider PODs for 2017 just for a bit of difference. Reasons for this are the risks of popular premium selections. GAJ has hardly played for 2 years and turns 33yo, yes he is a legend of the game, but he will decline eventually and I see this as the year it begins. Pendlebury is my favourite player in the game, but there is uncertainty surrounding his role therefore I'd rather wait and see how he goes with more FWD time, could benefit his scoring, but will hold off to start. Rockliff has destroyed my SC seasons over the past couple of years making me waste numerous trades and posting shocking scores when captain, therefore despite his huge ceiling, his lack of durability has made me stay away. Bontempelli and Titchell are both players I think will become the future go to premiums, however I am not willing to take the risk on Bont too early as he is still only 21yo and will cop more and more attention due to his huge influence on games, and Mitchell I'd rather wait and see how he handles being the number 1 midfielder with more attention. JPK is my first choice as he has a 120+ scoring history, is in his prime, Mitchell is gone so contested ball is his for the taking, and he has just taken on the captaincy which I think will push him even further. Sloane past 3 seasons he has averaged 114.8 in 2014, 114.9 unsubbed in 2015, and 115.9 between R4-20 in 2016 so I think that now he is used to playing without Danger and learning how to deal with more attention, he will push his average to 115 in 2017 which is enough for top 10 mids. Treloar is a pure midfielder, therefore he will spend majority of his time in the guts unlike Pendles, Adams, Wells, Sidebottom who will all rotate through positions. Treloar is 24yo at the start of the season so is entering SC prime years, and averaged 114.6 post bye last season. I think with the improvement of Grundy's tap work and natural progression, Treloar could potentially push 115-120 next year in my opinion. Beams and Swallow are huge value for their starting prices and therefore are locked in. Myers averaged 85 a few years back and will play if fit, Powell-Pepper has a ready made body, Barrett was a NEAFL freak and should get opportunities at the Lions, and Jarman provides DPP link to FWD.

RUC: Gawn, Goldstein (Strnadica)

Been changing this line so many times but I think the safe option is to just set and forget. Gawn and Goldy should both be top 3 ruckmen next year and with both having the potential to average 120+ and provide captain options, they are hard to overlook. Goldstein is good value and due to him playing majority of the year injured I think he will get back to his best in 2017. Averaged 118 pre bye (which included a score of 49) before his niggles made it hard for him, I can't see him averaging any less than last season, and we only need to look back to 2015 where he averaged 129 and his ceiling is huge, therefore I see heaps of upside for his starting price. Grundy is going to improve again and be a future star, but his current ceiling worries me for 2017, therefore I have decided to pick the proven guns rather than gamble on a breakout. Sandilands is the other option, however whenever I put him in I feel like Goldy will hurt me with huge scores. In addition to this, Sandilands is made of glass and at 34yo that risk is just increasing more and more. He is too old and too slow for me to pick, and not wanting to pick Ryder leaves me with no cover for him, therefore an early injury to Sandilands would hugely impact the whole season. Strnadica is cheap, has DPP, and plays lots of late games making him a decent loophole option.   


FWD: Dahlhaus, Deledio, Macrae, Bennell, McCluggage, Pickett (Black, Eddy)

I see the cheaper rookies being a lot less likely to play in the forward line compared to defence, therefore I have gone stronger in this line. Dahlhaus and Macrae are both young with upside and are both likely to average 100+ so they are locked in. Deledio has a proven history and although he is an injury risk, his move to GWS could be a blessing in disguise. He lost his love for the game in 2016 yet still averaged 95, and the year prior he averaged 112 in a high half forward role which is where I think they will use him at GWS. Still 29yo so not as old as many think, he is starting fresh, and although he is likely to play a similar position to Greene, Stevie J, Smith, etc., with more wins and more goals due to ball being in the attacking half more time than when he was at the Tigers, I see a 95 average as his minimum, with good potential for 100+. Bennell is obviously a wait and see as he may not even play R1 however despite his horrible injury and off-field history, he is a premium scorer when on the park. At the price he is, he has the potential to be a keeper if he plays, therefore I am willing to take the gamble on him like Wells this year. McCluggage is a bit pricey but was most recruiters number 1 draft pick for a reason, and his ability to switch between mid-fwd makes him very valuable to the Lions and SC scoring. Should get early games and should have better JS than most other rookies. Pickett should get games at Carlton and has ability (top 10 pick a few years ago) so a fresh start should do him well, don't expect big scores from him, however I expect games. Black should get some games at Geelong and as a cheap and mature option he could make some quick cash and score half decently (averaged 77 as a mobile half-forward in 2013). Eddy is a mature aged KPP therefore I don't expect big scores from him either but Port picked him to play.

[Peter]

Good summary and reasoning DMC, remember your sound reasoning from last season. The Goldy reasons have swayed me to move from Grundy. Just await team selection of rookies

[Ringo]

Good in depth analysis and reasoning. Few players returning from LTI which is a risk that you have identified. Couple of players I would not pick but that is personal. 

As you said defence is weak line but no doubt you have plans to strengthen once the premium defenders rise.

Very different structure to most and if it comes of you will be sitting pretty Risk v reward.

[DMCC10]

Gone with more of a guns and rookies approach by removing Swallow, McGrath & McCluggage to bring in another premium in Johannisen. Overall I am extremely happy with the premium/hopeful premium selections I have included despite many having injury concerns, every time I remove one of my current midfield premos I fear they will smash out 120+ so I keep putting them back and for now thats where they'll stay, my only issue is affording players that will actually play in D8 and F8, but apart from that I am really happy with it.

DEF: Adams, JJ, Hartlett, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman (Ryan, Taylor)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, GAJ, Rockliff, Fyfe, Beams, SPP, Myers (Graham, Barrett, Jarman)
RUC: Gawn, Goldstein (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Bennell, Pickett, Black (Eddy, Gallucci)

SALARY: $3,300

[Money Shot]

Best team I have seen so far.

[Ringo]

Only issue I see with this team is if Rookies do not start you will once again have to jettison a premium to have playing rookies. If all play well done but hard to see at this stage especially concerned with defence and forward rookies, 

[fasttrack13]

i feel you're one short on the 100% keeper side of things... I'm counting 11 (Hartlett, Heeney, Bennell are real 50/50... even beams is someone i see as not 100% too), think you've sacrificed a bit too much for that midfield and ruck line.

[GoLions]

Gone with more of a guns and rookies approach by removing Swallow, McGrath & McCluggage to bring in another premium in Johannisen. Overall I am extremely happy with the premium/hopeful premium selections I have included despite many having injury concerns, every time I remove one of my current midfield premos I fear they will smash out 120+ so I keep putting them back and for now thats where they'll stay, my only issue is affording players that will actually play in D8 and F8, but apart from that I am really happy with it.

DEF: Adams, JJ, Hartlett, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman (Ryan, Taylor)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, GAJ, Rockliff, Fyfe, Beams, SPP, Myers (Graham, Barrett, Jarman)
RUC: Gawn, Goldstein (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Bennell, Pickett, Black (Eddy, Gallucci)

SALARY: $3,300

Maybe gone a tad too strong in the mids, and it's had an impact on some of your rookie choices as Ringo mentioned. Would try and get McGrath and Clugg back in if possible.

[PureSwag]

All the Prems are good and will score good week in, week out. Thats the same with your mid-pricers.

Only issues is rookies, I'm not sure if most of then will play rd1 but will have to wait for rd1 squads to be named.

[DMCC10]

Just tried out my first team without Dangerfield (highly doubt il have the guts to start without him) and personally I don't think it looks too bad. Obviously Dangerfield will be in most serious sides, therefore its extremely risky not to start him, but an early injury or low score could make it pay off as it allows money to be used on other lines. It still has enough captain options throughout and has allowed me to strengthen my FWD line as I don't trust any of those rookies to score 60+ compared to defence where I think they are more capable of 70 averages, just my point of view. First bit of criticism I'm expecting is that I only have 10 premiums, however I am hoping a few will step up and become premiums, and others are huge value that can make money while scoring well and then be straight swapped to premiums later on. Only have $100 left over so not much room for change.

DEF: Adams, Hartlett, McGrath, Hampton, Newman, Ryan (Scharenberg, Hibberd)
MID: Pendlebury, JPK, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Murphy, Swallow, Myers (SPP, Graham, Wigg)
RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Deledio, Macrae, Heeney, Ryder, Bennell (Pickett, Eddy)