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Started by Jay, October 03, 2016, 10:55:56 PM

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R.Griffen

where rookies go to get hurt. Phily....

Jay


Mat0369

He woke up with barely any swelling and has been walking around on it without a boot. He has even been out there dribbling around so finally something positive.

TLC has lost a part of a tooth in 2 games now. He also had stitches in his mouth.

Jay

Wonder if Philly are wishing they weren't paying Amir freaking Johnson $11 million now that KCP is an unrestricted free agent

He would be an amazing fit.

Mat0369

Apart from the fact that it's Reddick, Fultz and Bayless taking most of the minutes at the 2 and RoCo, TLC and Anderson at the 3. Johnson is there for depth at the 4/5. With KCP you're paying him 20+ million to warm the bench when Brooklyn and LA will give him money and playing time.

Add this into it. From March 1st to the end of the season.

KCP

21gp, 30.7min, 11.6pts, .36/.28/.82 shooting, 2.8 reb, 1.8ast, .9stl

TLC

23gp, 28.3min, 11.7pts, .41/.32/.91 shooting, 3.7reb, 1.8ast, 1.0stl

And TLC is in year 2 of a rookie deal.
Apart from the fact that it's Reddick, Fultz and Bayless taking most of the minutes at the 2 and RoCo, TLC and Anderson at the 3. So you're paying him 20+ million to warm the bench when Brooklyn and LA will give him money and playing time.

Add this into it. From March 1st to the end of the season.

KCP

21gp, 30.7min, 11.6pts, .36/.28/.82 shooting, 2.8 reb, 1.8ast, .9stl

TLC

23gp, 28.3min, 11.7pts, .41/.32/.91 shooting, 3.7reb, 1.8ast, 1.0stl

And TLC is in year 2 of a rookie deal.

Meanwhile Boston is offloading assets for cents on the dollar. "But the Avery Bradley contract is a steal"




Jay

Please don't compare a few months of box score stats... KCP can guard ones and twos (Something Simmons and Fultz can do neither of) and shot 35% on high volume from 3 last season.

You could've had a great piece to add to the already very talented young core and instead you've got Amir Johnson on $11 million. He can't rebound, can't catch a pass, can't finish and his shot takes half an hour to get off. Just severely misread his market early in free agency. That's why the Boston rebuild has been so good #NoBadContracts. Colangelo is really trying hard to undo Hinkie's amazing work. He wouldn't have signed Amir or even worse, Jerryd Bayless

I'm good with Hayward, enjoy Amir :P

Mat0369

#1326
I'm showing you the progression TLC made. He took steps to becoming a really good 3 and D option off the bench and started to shine when the injury toll grew later in the season. If he can continue to develop you're getting a guy on a rookie scale deal while a team is breaking the bank for a guy that isn't a max contract player.

Covington can guard the 1-4, TLC can guard the 2-3, Simmons should be able to guard the 3-4 and Embiid is a beast. They will be a top 3 defense if everyone stays healthy anyway so whatever.

Again, your point is redundant. Johnson has nothing to do with signing KCP. Johnson is a 1 year stopgap depth option in case Embiid is injured. Right now the 6'ers PF/C situation is this. Saric, Embiid, Jah and Johnson. Maybe add Poythress. That also doesn't include the very likely possibility they move Jah during the season. Even playing small ball it's ridiculous to go into the season with Saric possibly having to play minutes at the 5 if injury strikes.

Reddick fills the need at shooting guard since his best asset is his 3 ball. Is KCP a better 3 point shooter than Reddick? The answer is pretty clear. Both are also on 1 year deals so if KCP is that good they can sign him next season if they really want to with all the money they will have. I'm also pretty sure the 6'ers had the cap space to sign him this year if they really wanted to, they just don't have the roster space (hence why Bolden will play in Serbia this year).

And you're talking about the Boston rebuild which just let go of a bunch of depth at critical positions because they literally couldn't afford them. Who have they got backing up Horford? They had to let both guys go because they spent all the cash on Hayward. It's all well and good getting a 'star' player but they have drafted a 3 in back to back drafts and went out and added another in FA to chew up all the cap . The 6'ers have the cap space to add a max contract player next season while also extending RoCo and Embiid. They're playing the long game and building a dynasty. 

I'm good with Embiid. Enjoy not being good enough to beat the Cavs or Warriors  :P By the time LeBron is  gone good luck trying to keep up with Embiid, Saric, Simmons, Fultz and RoCo.

Jay

#1327
Amir's $11 million has everything to do with KCP, it's money that could've gone straight to him. All I'm saying is that KCP is a better player and a better fit for the 6'ers than Amir, why is that so hard to understand?

Haven't you got Holmes as well? He's better than Johnson, why not just give Amir's minutes to him? You guys aren't winning anything this year, it's still a rebuild, yet Colangelo is acting like you're going to the finals. Redick I didn't mind because at least he's a good player.

We let go of Bradley, Olynyk and Amir for Hayward, Morris, Tatum and Baynes. I'm good with that. Baynes, who is better than Amir and signed for $4 million, will likely start at the 5, and then Horford will move to the 5 to unleash our super wing lineup. That's where the NBA is going, most teams just don't have the personnel to pull it off.

What max free agent is Philly getting? LeBron?
Embiid's a beast but he's played 31 games since he was drafted in 2014. Simmons is yet to play, Fultz has injury concerns too. If all these guys stay healthy you might be a 55-60 win team someday. We'll do that this season.. Something about a bird in the hand? And if the Isaiah/Horford team doesn't work out, we'll still have Smart, Brown, Tatum, BKN pick, SAC/LAL pick, Memphis pick and Hayward who will still be good when those guys are in their prime.

Wentz's QBR was worse than Osweiler and Krapernick's

plumdog millionaire


LaHug

Lonzo Ball anybody?? :D

plumdog millionaire

HOLY SHOWER KYRIE WANTS TO BE TRADED

Toga


JBs-Hawks

Kyrie for Melo + Porzingis? :P

Jay


jvalles69

Don't mind Kyrie doing this, why have your career dictated by someone else (Lebron), has no input with Lebron there, unlikely to win the rings with their moves in the of season, rumours of them talking to D. Rose and Lebron all but certain to leave at the end of the season.