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Holz

Quote from: killerbees on February 23, 2017, 05:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 23, 2017, 01:13:10 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 23, 2017, 12:40:42 PM
Sixers trading Ersan  :(
The 76ers are finalizing a trade that will send Ersan Ilyasova to Atlanta in exchange for Tiago Splitter and two second-round picks, according to Adrian Wojnarowski.
The Sixers are expected to receive one second-round pick, while swapping another one.

must be waving him.

hopefully they are making a huge splash for Paul George.

Simmons Saric George Embiid would love that combo

Who is shooting in that line up? Saric and George bith super streaky and I'm a pacers fan.

If we can't get him help I reckon we will flip him to avoid walking for free, which will be beyond upsetting.

Kings could have had Klay/Dame and boogie at once with better lottery picks, you could float Giannis too but i thin kwith those three they are too low in Giannis year to get him.

They needed shooting and defence on wings and they took Jimmer over Klay and Kawhi

the free agents who come for a ring.

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2017, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: killerbees on February 23, 2017, 05:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 23, 2017, 01:13:10 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 23, 2017, 12:40:42 PM
Sixers trading Ersan  :(
The 76ers are finalizing a trade that will send Ersan Ilyasova to Atlanta in exchange for Tiago Splitter and two second-round picks, according to Adrian Wojnarowski.
The Sixers are expected to receive one second-round pick, while swapping another one.

must be waving him.

hopefully they are making a huge splash for Paul George.

Simmons Saric George Embiid would love that combo

Who is shooting in that line up? Saric and George bith super streaky and I'm a pacers fan.

If we can't get him help I reckon we will flip him to avoid walking for free, which will be beyond upsetting.

Kings could have had Klay/Dame and boogie at once with better lottery picks, you could float Giannis too but i thin kwith those three they are too low in Giannis year to get him.

They needed shooting and defence on wings and they took Jimmer over Klay and Kawhi

the free agents who come for a ring.

You getting ready to jump on another bandwagon?

valkorum

Quote from: killerbees on February 23, 2017, 05:15:01 PM
Kings could have had Klay/Dame and boogie at once with better lottery picks, you could float Giannis too but i thin kwith those three they are too low in Giannis year to get him.

They needed shooting and defence on wings and they took Jimmer over Klay and Kawhi

To be fair, Jimmer was a lights out shooter in College and still is (70'odd in China league game the other day).  His defence was just horrible and was found out big time in the NBA.

Holz

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 23, 2017, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2017, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: killerbees on February 23, 2017, 05:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 23, 2017, 01:13:10 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 23, 2017, 12:40:42 PM
Sixers trading Ersan  :(
The 76ers are finalizing a trade that will send Ersan Ilyasova to Atlanta in exchange for Tiago Splitter and two second-round picks, according to Adrian Wojnarowski.
The Sixers are expected to receive one second-round pick, while swapping another one.

must be waving him.

hopefully they are making a huge splash for Paul George.

Simmons Saric George Embiid would love that combo

Who is shooting in that line up? Saric and George bith super streaky and I'm a pacers fan.

If we can't get him help I reckon we will flip him to avoid walking for free, which will be beyond upsetting.

Kings could have had Klay/Dame and boogie at once with better lottery picks, you could float Giannis too but i thin kwith those three they are too low in Giannis year to get him.

They needed shooting and defence on wings and they took Jimmer over Klay and Kawhi

the free agents who come for a ring.

You getting ready to jump on another bandwagon?

the reason why philly is in a position to attract the free agents is that embiid and simmons etc will be a low contracts allowing for others to get paid. Like the warriros have done with curry on a low wage. They have the 4th most cap space of any team.

I dont think they are relevant for another 2-3years time even with George but they are probably good enouugh to make it to the second round in the east. The east will be wide open when Lebron starts to decline which i think is 3 years, he will still be top 5 he just wont be Lebron.







LaHug

The other reason that Philly can attract free agents is that, even though they went through a huge rebuild, they're one of the biggest markets in America behind New York and LA.

Mat0369

Quote from: killerbees on February 23, 2017, 05:15:01 PM
Who is shooting in that line up? Saric and George bith super streaky and I'm a pacers fan.

If we can't get him help I reckon we will flip him to avoid walking for free, which will be beyond upsetting.

Kings could have had Klay/Dame and boogie at once with better lottery picks, you could float Giannis too but i thin kwith those three they are too low in Giannis year to get him.

They needed shooting and defence on wings and they took Jimmer over Klay and Kawhi

That would be the core, you don't have them on the court at the same time. The thing is you have guys like Sauce, Henderson and Bayless coming off the bench as spot up shooters. I wouldn't be surprised if they draft Monk purely for his shooting ability in this upcoming draft for floor spacing. This team is going to be interesting depending who they draft with their length and defensive ability. RoCo and Embiid are two of the best defensive players in their positions. Teams are going to struggle to score.

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 23, 2017, 05:38:49 PM
You getting ready to jump on another bandwagon?

Team's full, if you didn't TTP get the F out.

Quote from: LaHug on February 23, 2017, 07:40:26 PM
The other reason that Philly can attract free agents is that, even though they went through a huge rebuild, they're one of the biggest markets in America behind New York and LA.

This is what pissed the other owners off about Hinkie, Philly are a big market team

It also helps when you have Embiid, Simmons and a 5 star resort for a training facility.

Jah trade is about to go down. Philly have asked about Jimmy Butler as part of a potential deal but the Bulls are adamant he isn't up for trade. They have asked about KCP in Detroit and I am expecting BC to have asked about Paul George as well. KCP is probably the best pure fit due to need but George is the guy I would want the most. They're an instant threat with the core they have.

LaHug

I honestly think you should trade Jah, the Lakers pick, and something else for Butler (might need to trade your own 2018 pick or something but your 2017 one would be what Chicago really pushes for). Worth losing the picks to get a true star and really push for success next season. Just my thoughts.

Mat0369

I don't like Butler for a couple of different reasons. Everyone seems to be having issues with him in the locker room. The Bulls have already overhauled their roster once, they are about to do it again partly because of this. Considering the 6'ers are pretty tight off the court I don't want to jeopardize that.

He also isn't a fantastic 3pt shooter so he doesn't provide floor spacing. He is a great player, but if I had to pick one of him or Paul George I'm going Paul George every time.

JBs-Hawks

Nah leave PG alone hes staying in Indy  >:(

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 23, 2017, 10:42:16 PM
I don't like Butler for a couple of different reasons. Everyone seems to be having issues with him in the locker room. The Bulls have already overhauled their roster once, they are about to do it again partly because of this. Considering the 6'ers are pretty tight off the court I don't want to jeopardize that.

He also isn't a fantastic 3pt shooter so he doesn't provide floor spacing. He is a great player, but if I had to pick one of him or Paul George I'm going Paul George every time.
yep, he is gonna chew up Simmons eventual usage too, he has a Wade type game, a lot of iso ball

Andrew3747

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 23, 2017, 10:42:16 PM
I don't like Butler for a couple of different reasons. Everyone seems to be having issues with him in the locker room. The Bulls have already overhauled their roster once, they are about to do it again partly because of this. Considering the 6'ers are pretty tight off the court I don't want to jeopardize that.

He also isn't a fantastic 3pt shooter so he doesn't provide floor spacing. He is a great player, but if I had to pick one of him or Paul George I'm going Paul George every time.

If you want a worse player than sure. George as a star is the worst narative since LeBron isn't clutch. He played well in 3 games in the playoffs.

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: Andrew3747 on February 24, 2017, 12:32:33 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 23, 2017, 10:42:16 PM
I don't like Butler for a couple of different reasons. Everyone seems to be having issues with him in the locker room. The Bulls have already overhauled their roster once, they are about to do it again partly because of this. Considering the 6'ers are pretty tight off the court I don't want to jeopardize that.

He also isn't a fantastic 3pt shooter so he doesn't provide floor spacing. He is a great player, but if I had to pick one of him or Paul George I'm going Paul George every time.

If you want a worse player than sure. George as a star is the worst narative since LeBron isn't clutch. He played well in 3 games in the playoffs.

I dont understand how you know absolutely everything about basketball, but arent an NBA GM?

Andrew3747

Instead of making insults, would love for you to show me otherwise.

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: Andrew3747 on February 24, 2017, 01:04:59 AM
Instead of making insults, would love for you to show me otherwise.

4 time All star

3 time All NBA

3 time All defensive

Decided by people with much more credentials then you.

Andrew3747

Yeah, Zaza is an all star so yeahhh.

18.7 PER on 57% TS with .099 WS. for instance Butler has 25.6 PER, 59% TS, .236 WS.

Like I said, they are voted by the media, which is why I said is the worst media narrative. The same people put Drose ahead of LeBron in 2011. If you want to believe media representation than sure. However if you want to deal in facts and figures, than PG13 isn't a star player.