NBA Season 2016/17

Mat0369 · February 21, 2017, 12:07:44 AM

This is the source on the Rozier part of the deal

https://twitter.com/Nick_Sciria/status/833521243689205760

It was in response to Woj.

While Cousins is talented, he is a head case so it doesn't surprise me Stevens didn't want him. I think they were also looking at trades for Butler and Paul George. George is the guy I would gun for, Butler seems to kill every locker room he is in so that's an interesting scenario.

Hinkie is currently living in Cali so it's not like he would move far for the Kings job. I just hope he doesn't go after JoJo when he lands with a team. The relationship with those two is quite strong.

I think if Philly ends up in the playoffs next season and owners realise that what Hinkie did work they will either look to bring him in or get their own guys to do it.

Jay · February 21, 2017, 12:15:13 AM

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 21, 2017, 12:07:44 AM
This is the source on the Rozier part of the deal

https://twitter.com/Nick_Sciria/status/833521243689205760

It was in response to Woj.

While Cousins is talented, he is a head case so it doesn't surprise me Stevens didn't want him. I think they were also looking at trades for Butler and Paul George. George is the guy I would gun for, Butler seems to kill every locker room he is in so that's an interesting scenario.

Hinkie is currently living in Cali so it's not like he would move far for the Kings job. I just hope he doesn't go after JoJo when he lands with a team. The relationship with those two is quite strong.

I think if Philly ends up in the playoffs next season and owners realise that what Hinkie did work they will either look to bring him in or get their own guys to do it.

Suss the comments, the dude is joking (thank flower lol). My guess is that Boston thought that this year's Nets pick was too much to give up, and offered Jaylen or next years Brooklyn pick instead but SAC preferred NO's offer because they overrate Heild.

Mat0369 · February 21, 2017, 12:46:32 AM

Whoops, I saw it attached to the Woj tweet, didn't make it that far at work when I saw it today because the tweet was embedded.

RiOtChEsS · February 21, 2017, 09:54:13 AM

The trade sending DeMarcus Cousins and Omri Casspi to the Pelicans in exchange for Buddy Hield, Tyreke Evans, Langston Galloway and some draft picks was finalized on Monday.
"It was time for a change and I decided this was the best direction for the organization, said Vlade Divac. "Winning begins with culture and character matters." Divac went on to half-heartedly thank Cousins for his time in Sacramento and tried to justify the trade by hyping up the draft picks, but the line about"culture" and "character matters" is a pretty obvious shot at Boogie. Both Cousins and Anthony Davis will be sacrificing some touches as they learn to play together, but both of them should still be able to fill up the stat sheet. For what it's worth, Divac also said he had a better offer a couple days ago, so there's that.

Kings owner Vivek Ranadive reportedly believes that Buddy Hield has Stephen Curry potential.
This is the same guy that compared Nik Stauskas to Klay Thompson, was in favor of clearing multiple first-round picks to make room for Rajon Rondo, Marco Belinelli and Kosta Koufos as free agents, and also reportedly wanted to keep Monta Ellis over Stephen Curry during his time as a minority owner of the Dubs, so he's basically 0-for-3 in the hot takes department. Hield should get some more opportunity to produce in Sacramento, but this is a wait-and-see situation in most formats.

I cannot believe some of this shower :o

killerbees · February 21, 2017, 10:13:48 AM

Crazy that Sacramento could have a starting back court of Dame and Klay, with Giannis and Boogie up front if they drafted better

Yes i get that there pick may have fallen in a different place if they picked them up but i reckon at least Dame and Klay would have been getable

Such a dumpster fire franchise

valkorum · February 21, 2017, 11:03:05 AM

:'(

RiOtChEsS · February 21, 2017, 11:47:02 AM

Moving beyond the shock of this deal...

How do we all seeing the Boogie/Brow combo panning out, does Boogie resign with NOP or move on in the offseason?

valkorum · February 21, 2017, 11:52:49 AM

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 21, 2017, 11:47:02 AM
Moving beyond the shock of this deal...

How do we all seeing the Boogie/Brow combo panning out, does Boogie resign with NOP or move on in the offseason?

Lets just say I have ALWAYS wanted The Brow to come to the Kings to team up with Boogie. I think they will be amazing. Boogie at the 5, AD at the 4. Good luck stopping that.

No one can stop them now, how the hell are you going to stop them when they are both on the same team. Then add Jrue Holiday as the starting PG, that's a very handy 3.

The only positive I can take is that we have won without Cousins before (we beat the Celtics a couple weeks back)

Holz · February 21, 2017, 12:55:27 PM

Quote from: valkorum on February 21, 2017, 11:52:49 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 21, 2017, 11:47:02 AM
Moving beyond the shock of this deal...

How do we all seeing the Boogie/Brow combo panning out, does Boogie resign with NOP or move on in the offseason?

Lets just say I have ALWAYS wanted The Brow to come to the Kings to team up with Boogie. I think they will be amazing. Boogie at the 5, AD at the 4. Good luck stopping that.

No one can stop them now, how the hell are you going to stop them when they are both on the same team. Then add Jrue Holiday as the starting PG, that's a very handy 3.

The only positive I can take is that we have won without Cousins before (we beat the Celtics a couple weeks back)

you would imagine it will work well 2 bigs as your stars is tough but pretty much the best 2 big combo you can get. Davis shouldnt be playing centre he is too skilled on the outside and most importantly his body is way too fragile to be banging in the post.

both guys can shoot from mid range with Davis in particular.

great thing is both are decent FT shooters too.

reckon they will take some time on defence though as Davis the better shot blocker but Cousins has the better body to play the rim protector.

Im very very happy for Davis finally we can see him shine. I would like to see him play PF/SF.

not sure if they would be able to do it but i would love for them to fit in Haywood next year. i rate Jrue if he can stay healthy.

Mat0369 · February 21, 2017, 01:28:50 PM

I rate Jrue coming home to Philly. The one thing that came out of the discussions is Jrue knows Philly want him back. It will be interesting to see what he does in the off-season. With his wife's health issues I see him wanting to settle somewhere long term.

plumdog millionaire · February 21, 2017, 01:41:17 PM

Pels have absolutely no guard/wing depth..

Holiday, Frazier
Moore
Casspi, Cunningham, Hill (All more of a 4 than a 3), Pondexter hasn't played since 2015.

valkorum · February 21, 2017, 01:55:38 PM

Casspi is a SF and only plays PF if you are going for small ball. He is very under-rated for his 3pt shooting. His mid range is terrible and so is his free throw shooting (50-60%) but he is able to get to the rim and finishes quite well. He is an average defender.

Basically he is the perfect guy to come off the bench to take backup minutes in the SF position. He is the kind of guy that can go for 8 -10 points, 4-5 rebounds every game.

14-15
3PT % .402
FG% .489

15-16
3PT % .409
FG% .481

16-17
3PT % .379
FG% .453

RiOtChEsS · February 21, 2017, 02:34:05 PM

Apparently the Pels are shopping Terence Jones, that may balance up the roster...

I'm not certain it will gel this year, numbers wise they will both dip 10% across the board but still be productive, i'm more leaning towards will Boogie want to stay there long term, i think Jrue and The Brow both have the right personalities to let Boogie be Boogie but how he processes getting traded and how the fit and team goes from here will be massive, he bottles a lot of things up and then explodes...

http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/18723235/nba-explaining-demarcus-cousins-deal

Essentially this trade has cost Boogie 30mil

RiOtChEsS · February 22, 2017, 12:02:19 AM

Source: Jeff Goodman ESPN

"There were no better deals out there, having spoken to GM's, there was no bidding war, they were worried nobody can coach him"

LaHug · February 22, 2017, 10:05:48 AM

So I had to avoid this thread until I'd caught up on all the ASW events and stuff. Here are my thoughts on everything.

1. Rookie/Soph game was alright but lacked those cool moments of players going 1on1 with each other.
2. Skills challenge was probably the most fun bit of Saturday night. Porzingis winning for the bigs made it two years in a row of good fun.
3. No Curry and Klay flopping really hurt the 3 Point Contest. Overtime was a nice touch but they were both so pooped.
4. Dunk contest sucked.
5. All Star Game was horrible. Play just a little bit of D please! Only player I respected was Giannis because he was at least going for a few steals and stuff. AD's record needs a little asterisk because 52 points on a bloody layup/alley opp drill shouldn't count.
6. OMG what the hell Kings?! Worst trade I've seen in a long time. Casspi is better than anyone the Pels gave up and then there's that guy called Cousins involved too. Holy moly.
7. If the Pels make the 8th seed, they probably won't beat the Warriors BUT the Cousins/AD combo will wear them out physically. Huge advantage for San Antonio, Houston, and Cleveland if the Kings take the Dubs to 6 games and play super physical.