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Started by Jay, October 03, 2016, 10:55:56 PM

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jvalles69

Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 13, 2017, 07:19:30 PM
Plumdog should be basically a backup for Joker, both are top 5 big men passers so they won't have to change the system for those guys depending on who is on the court. I expect them to play together for 5-10 minutes a game because they already have Faried, Arthur, Chandler, Hernangomez and even Gallo who are good fits next to Jokic or Plumdog

If all those pieces are still there! ;)

Andrew3747

Portland wins big though. They get a extra pick in a stacked draft plus move 15m/yr from their cap for Nurkic who has decent upside but can be moved on again for a profit. Think if they can move Crabbe/Turner and maybe CJ, they can rebuild through Lillard and acquire someone like Cousins through FA.

RiOtChEsS

Why give up a 1st round draft pick for a backup... #givethatsomethought

Andrew3747

From Denver's point of view, they dont like Nurkic and dont see him as a good enough replacement. Plumlee is a decent replacement for current Jokic if he goes down/mins. But they aren't winning anything any time soon, so dont understand why they are taking on a rental with a decent size contract.

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Andrew3747 on February 13, 2017, 08:26:44 PM
From Denver's point of view, they dont like Nurkic and dont see him as a good enough replacement. Plumlee is a decent replacement for current Jokic if he goes down/mins. But they aren't winning anything any time soon, so dont understand why they are taking on a rental with a decent size contract.
reasonable logic but a 1st round pick gimme a break

plumdog millionaire

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 13, 2017, 08:17:20 PM
Why give up a 1st round draft pick for a backup... #givethatsomethought
I guess the pick would have been mid to early 20's in a draft people say is stacked - but so was the 2014 one apparently. Denver have a roster crunch and wouldn't have been able to add two more developmental guys to a team that already has a lot of young prospects (7 playerss <22), and besides Plumdog is probably better than most historically drafted in that range. Could be a win-win for both sides if Nurk can play like he did as a rookie.

Big issue for Denver is that they will have to pay Plumdog in RFA - They are taking the chance that the market for C's will be over-saturated as it is now and may be able to get him on the cheap.

Andrew3747

Its via memphis so its not that bad, but its still going to be around the 20s and in a stacked draft ( yes its top heavy but still deep), is prob a mistake.

RiOtChEsS

If they dont start both it is a bad trade for Denver

Andrew3747

Its bad for den no matter what. They wont be starting together and thats not even a remotely good idea.

killerbees

Plumlee top 5 passing centre?

In the NBA?

lol....

Next we will be believing his triple double hype

Andrew3747

he has 21% of portlands assists.

fwiw, top 2 ore prob jokic and horford who both are 24%.

per 100 poss plumee has 7.5 assists, horford and jokic both have 7.7

its not laughable.

plumdog millionaire

Jokic, Gasol, Horford, Plumdog, Boogie in some order

killerbees

Quote from: Andrew3747 on February 13, 2017, 10:58:51 PM
he has 21% of portlands assists.

fwiw, top 2 ore prob jokic and horford who both are 24%.

per 100 poss plumee has 7.5 assists, horford and jokic both have 7.7

its not laughable.

Probably says more about his teams offensive structure than him using those two metrics.

Also 4 a game being 21% of teams total would also be a concern for Portland.


Mat0369

Dario has been pretty good. If his teammate wasn't so good he would probably be rookie of the year.

LaHug

Holy crap. Ibaka to Toronto is huge! He's everything JV lacks. If they can mesh together quickly on the floor, you get spacing from Ibaka plus post presence from JV on offense, then you get rim protection from Ibaka on D! The only thing that convincingly beats this lineup is floor-spacing small ball (so the Cavs with Frye or Love as C, or the Warriors/Rockets run/gun/shoot lineups).