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Started by Jay, October 03, 2016, 10:55:56 PM

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Jay

Melo trade talks are heating up. Pretty funny that it's now that the Knicks realise they should trade him, in the off-season they seemed pretty convinced they could build a super team around him ::) the longer they delay building around Kristaps the worse they'll be. They've done enough damage already by signing Noah to that ridiculous contract.

As for teams who might be interested in Melo, the Cavs and Clipps would obviously have interest but I'm not too sure what they could offer presuming that their respective big threes (big 4 in the Clipps case) are rightly untouchable. Maybe the Cavs would trade Love if they were getting back Melo + more but I'm not really sure what that is.

As a Boston fan, I'd rather sell the farm for Boogie than trade any asset for Melo. We already have the best isolation/crunch time scorer in the league, we don't need Melo. We need someone who will pull down every defensive rebound and play with some force inside.

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Mat0369


Jay

Playing less minutes isn't a positive thing. Milsapp has literally played double what Embiid has, so even if Embiid is ahead in the metric stats, he gives that up and more by just not being on the court as often. I know it's not his fault he isn't playing, but Millsap contributing what he does to a winning team gives him the edge.

Holz

Quote from: Jay on January 28, 2017, 01:03:41 AM
Playing less minutes isn't a positive thing. Milsapp has literally played double what Embiid has, so even if Embiid is ahead in the metric stats, he gives that up and more by just not being on the court as often. I know it's not his fault he isn't playing, but Millsap contributing what he does to a winning team gives him the edge.

Its a positive thing when you put up better numbers.

Look at it this way embiid puts up 20 points then gives another team mate 23 minutes to score.

Milsap  puts up 18 points then gives his team mates 14 minutes to score.

Who is helping the team more?

Also embiid a beter defender and overall better player.

Plus its all star theses guys might only get 15 minutes. On numbers embiid puts up a solid 12 points.


Milsap puts up like 8.

Its not even close between these 2

Mat0369

Embiid just won the conference player of the week. Even if we look at wins we have this


The Hawks are winning, but Milsap isn't doing it with a team that only won 10 games last season and looked like they would only win that many when JoJo isn't on the court. Embiid provides a 20 point swing when he is on the court. He is the best 5 in the east and is impacting games on both ends of the floor in less minutes.

It's amazing the difference he is making as a rookie and forgetting stats and just using the eye test he is destroying teams on his own. He should have been an All-Star, he deserved to be one and the fact he isn't is pretty disappointing that the coaches, players and media didn't recognise that.


plumdog millionaire

Chris Paul didn't even make it (Should have over Klay/DeAndre) and he's played 350 more minutes than Embiid. Playing matters, and winning matters too, whether it is deserved or not.

That being said, if he played like this last season he would have made it as the East was a bit thinner, but he'll make it for many more years in the future. This is probably Millsap's last year of contending for All Star and he is deserving of it - He's the centrepiece of a team which has a good record and one of the best defences in the league.

Embiid has a slightly higher difference in net rating on/off wise, however Millsap has a 5.93 RPM compared to Embiid's 2.88. Some of that can be explained by the fact that Embiid's backups (Noel, Okafor, Holmes) are much better than Millsap's, which makes Millsap's look a little better than it should.

plumdog millionaire

#502
Another interesting stat: With Millsap on the court the Hawks shoot 37.6% from 3PT whereas off court they shoot 29.9%

Edit: 37.6% not 27.6%!

R.Griffen

Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 28, 2017, 10:58:23 AM
Another interesting stat: With Millsap on the court the Hawks shoot 27.6% from 3PT whereas off court they shoot 29.9%
So they are crap either way  ;)

plumdog millionaire

Quote from: R.Griffen on January 28, 2017, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 28, 2017, 10:58:23 AM
Another interesting stat: With Millsap on the court the Hawks shoot 27.6% from 3PT whereas off court they shoot 29.9%
So they are crap either way  ;)
Flower, got em

Mat0369

Trust The Process. Watch the throwdown!

Mat0369

The officiating in this game is just terrible.

Mat0369

Tonight: Joel Embiid & Paul Millsap

Embiid:
32 PTS
7 REBS
4 AST
2 BLK
+/-0

Millsap:
4 PTS
4 REBS
1 AST
-23

Paul Millsap is #NotMyAllStar

plumdog millionaire

Quote from: Mat0369 on January 28, 2017, 04:28:59 PM
Tonight: Joel Embiid & Paul Millsap

Embiid:
32 PTS
7 REBS
4 AST
2 BLK
+/-0

Millsap:
4 PTS
4 REBS
1 AST
-23

Paul Millsap is #NotMyAllStar
Is this legit?

Mat0369

The stats are legit. In 23 and a half minutes that's what Millsap put up against the Wizards. In 28 minutes JoJo put up those numbers, that includes 3 steals and shooting 55% from the floor. He also shot 4 of 6 from 3 point range. He started the 4th quarter with 8 points (including back to back 3's) in around a minute.