NBA Season 2016/17

[Jay]

I've had in mind a Rozier/Noel swap with maybe a pick to get it done.

[Mat0369]

Hasn't Rozier been really bad this year? When I watched us play the Celtics they said he is statistically the worst shot in the league.

[jvalles69]

Hasn't Rozier been really bad this year? When I watched us play the Celtics they said he is statistically the worst shot in the league.

Rozier or Smart?  Smarts %'s are pretty darn low!

[Mat0369]

I don't really understand any of these trades being listed here...

OKC don't want or need Noel, they already have Adams as a defensive C on a big contract.
Raptors won't break up this team for an injury-prone big when they currently have the best offensive rating in NBA history and are serious contenders already.
Phoenix wouldn't want Gay because he's already 30 and they're so far away from win-now.

The reason I brought up the Raptors is that a swap involving Noel for Ross and a pick was mentioned in the pre-season. The Raptors were one of the teams mentioned with the Celtics, Wolves and a couple of others as a potential landing spot, especially since they lost Biyombo and need a rim protector come playoffs. They currently hold both their own and the Clippers first round pick, if they can give up a late first and a depth player to get a rim protector it makes sense for them.

The other trades I agree with you, I don't see them happening. Maybe Knight which was another guy spoken about in the pre-season, he wasn't wanted under the Hinkie regime (MCW trade) but BC might have interest in him. At the end of the day it looks like Philly are going to get cents on the dollar in this deal, I think a projected late first would get it done or an early second and a project player.

Rozier or Smart?  Smarts %'s are pretty darn low!

It was 100% Rozier, they were talking about his shooting percentage saying it is the worst in the league up to that point. He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from behind the arc and the 6'ers need shooters to pair with Simmons and the bigs.

Smart was another name thrown around along with Avery Bradley as part of a potential deal. No way the part with Bradley now. 

[plumdog millionaire]

Report: Trade partners turned off by Noel's work habits

http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1185206

[RiOtChEsS]

Haha Adams isnt a defnsive C, he just isnt very good ;)

[Mat0369]

Report: Trade partners turned off by Noel's work habits

http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1185206

I was going to say that was reported a few days ago when Nerlens through his hissy fit, then I saw the date on the article  :P

Here is a more recent article on the situation


Colangelo lives...says they are interested in keeping Ersan. That is a little different. At time of trade he said something like they'd consider keeping him...

Essentially, Colangelo and the 7-20 Sixers would like for Noel to work his way back into coach Brett Brown's rotation/good graces to show he's "healthy and he's professional and he's got a good attitude toward everything that's going on. That may ultimately lead to something (a trade)."

Colangelo is willing to take a higher salary back if the player would fit into the team's future.

"He does a lot of things at an elite level defensively when healthy and engaged," Colangelo said. "We're trying to determine if (Noel) is a fit for this roster."

Noel is a fourth-year man who went No. 6 overall in the 2013 NBA Draft and might have gone No. 1 if he hadn't torn his left ACL at Kentucky.

But Colangelo insisted he's not going to clear up the logjam of centers by making a deal unless he gets fair value in return and is willing to go the entire season with Joel Embiid, Jahlil Okafor, Noel and second-year pro Richaun Holmes on the roster.

Noel saying in late September that he wouldn't mind being traded and there were too many big men "was ill-advised, not only for his own value but probably for our ability to have him involved in a deal," according to Colangelo.

"That's never worked, in my estimation, for a player to voice that kind of concern," Colangelo said. "Then people start looking at and questioning other things."


Colangelo said Noel being away from the Sixers in the offseason and again while rehabbing after his Oct. 25 elective left knee surgery weren't ideal from the organization's standpoint.

Colangelo pointed that Noel will become a restricted free agent next summer and isn't getting a chance to put up numbers worthy of a high salary could add to his frustration level.

Among other things, Colangelo said:

• there is no reason to rush injured top selection Ben Simmons back from a fractured foot and "it's an unknown" when he'll play;

• "a combo guard is probably a really good fit alongside Ben Simmons," who lamented the season-ending left wrist surgery to combination guard Jerryd Bayless;

• he'd like to see veteran power forward Ersan Ilyasova, who becomes an unrestricted free agent July 1, remain with the Sixers beyond this season;

• "the organization will be getting better (and) our talent level will be increasing" via the draft, when the Sixers could have two top-5 picks, and free agency;

• Embiid is "a runaway favorite to be named Rookie of the Year right now."

http://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/sports/sixers/bryan-colangelo-sixers-want-to-see-if-nerlens-noel-fits/article_9e8a1b69-7619-5b71-8885-d6ad5c6d7e5f.html

[Mat0369]

"There are a couple of teams to watch on the Noel front, the biggest being the Toronto Raptors. It is unlikely that the Raptors mess with their team chemistry in moving a core player, but if the 76ers want some of the Raptors’ young players or non-core parts, Toronto would have interest in Noel, according to sources close to the situation. It’s also believed the Portland Trail Blazers have eyes on Noel, but they may be unwilling to give up much in a deal."

[RiOtChEsS]

That's the problem, Noel is gonna want good money and he cant get it without putting up numbers this year, if you are trading for him you have to play this guy a lot and look to pay him a lot the following season and unless you are the highest bidder you probably wont keep him, too risky for most teams imo, Brooklyn might because they are facked anyway an love dumb moves

[jvalles69]

Hallelujah!!!  Gentry played AD next to TJones and guess what...they both dominated, yes it was against Philly, but damn that is much better combo than Asik or Ajinca.  Plus I have AD and TJones in my ESPN Fantasy team!  ;D

[RiOtChEsS]

Hallelujah!!!  Gentry played AD next to TJones and guess what...they both dominated, yes it was against Philly, but damn that is much better combo than Asik or Ajinca.  Plus I have AD and TJones in my ESPN Fantasy team!  ;D

man i havent had a payday in weeks :'(

[Jay]

Sounds like a job for the trade machine!

1. Boston give: Marcus Smart
   Philadelphia give: Nerlens Noel
Straight swap, both were 6th picks in the draft. Nerlens has probably shown a bit more so far in his career, Marcus has shown a lot on defense - he's already one of the best defensive PGs in the league, but his offense hasn't improved like I'd want it to. The appealing thing about him for Philly though is his fit next to Ben Simmons. You can have Simmons as the primary ball handler, and then Smart next to him as the secondary. But most importantly, if you've got Smart, he can guard whoever the best PG or SG is on the other team, heck he's even been guarding SFs at time this year. Boston get a high upside big man, who has the potential to be a force on the interior - he'd be an instant upgrade over Amir.

2. Boston give: Terry Rozier + Gerald Green
   Philadelphia give: Nerlens Noel
Rozier is a better shooter than Smart (although that's not saying much), but is worse defensively. Green is a good shooter too.

3. Portland give: Noah Vonleh + Shabazz Napier + more favourable of of Lakers/T-Wolves 2019 second round pick
  Philadelphia give: Nerlens Noel

4. Portland give: Festus Ezeli + 2018 Cleveland first round pick
   Philadelphis give: Nerlens Noel
Festus is just salary to make the trade work, its basically just the pick for Nerlens. Maybe that's slightly unders considering its over a year away and Cleveland will still likely be very good then.

5. New Orleans give: E'twaunn Moore + 2017 76ers second round pick + 2018 Pelicans second round pick
   Philadelphia give: Nerlens Noel
This is probably unders because I'm not sure if Moore is an asset on his $8 million for 4 years contract, but he's a handy offensive player and the two picks will probably both be top 40.

6. OKC give: Cameron Payne + Anthony Morrow
   Philadelphia give: Nerlens Noel
I'm not sure the Thunder would do this as Payne is pretty much their only good young guard prospect. But this trade would definitely intrigue me if I were Philly.

7. Raptors give: Pascal Siakam + 2017 Clippers first round pick
   Philadelphia give: Nerlens Noel
I reckon this is probably the most likely trade. Siakam has been starting at PF for Toronto so he's not that bad, and then roughly pick 25. This is good value for Nerlens but I reckon Toronto might just be willing to do it.

[fanTCfool]

Malcolm Brogdon has dunked on the defence of Kyrie and LeBron  :o

[LaHug]

I have a three leg multi on Knicks, Spurs, and Cavs. All three incredibly close. So much stress (and only a small bet too).

[Jay]

Isaiah has been amazing today. Another day, another close game for the Grizzlies!