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Started by Jay, October 03, 2016, 10:55:56 PM

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Holz

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 27, 2016, 02:54:14 PM
Embiid was very impressive, i hope he stays healthy for Philly...

Anthony motherflowerin Davis :o jus dropped fiddy with 4 no no's 7 swipes 5 dimes an 16 boards :o

Heres the interesting Question.

you start your franchise what order do you put these guys?

Kevin Durrant 28
Russ Westbrook 27
Kawhi Leoanard
Kyrie Irving 24
Anthony Davis 23
KAT 20

Anyone im missing from the top 6?

Left out Lebron due to Age.

I reckon i have Leonard 1, Davis 2, KAT 3, Irving 4, Brook 5, Durrant 6.

RiOtChEsS


jvalles69


valkorum

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 27, 2016, 03:01:20 PM
Harden 10pts 7 dimes in 8 minutes :o

Make that 12pts 9ast at quarter time.

Jay

Quote from: Holz on October 27, 2016, 03:03:13 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 27, 2016, 02:54:14 PM
Embiid was very impressive, i hope he stays healthy for Philly...

Anthony motherflowerin Davis :o jus dropped fiddy with 4 no no's 7 swipes 5 dimes an 16 boards :o

Heres the interesting Question.

you start your franchise what order do you put these guys?

Kevin Durrant 28
Russ Westbrook 27
Kawhi Leoanard
Kyrie Irving 24
Anthony Davis 23
KAT 20

Anyone im missing from the top 6?

Left out Lebron due to Age.

I reckon i have Leonard 1, Davis 2, KAT 3, Irving 4, Brook 5, Durrant 6.
1. KAT
2. Curry
3. AD
4. Leonard
5. Durant
6. Westbrook

elephants

The Holz-Curry hate was pretty funny at first but now...

jvalles69

AD first ever player with 45+pts, 15+rbds, 5+stls and 5+ass.  Incredible.

Holz

Quote from: elephants on October 27, 2016, 03:28:25 PM
The Holz-Curry hate was pretty funny at first but now...
Is this in reference to him not being on the list?

This is about starting a franchise so you go young. Its not hate to exclude him from this list.

The GMs answered this question and they had

1. Karl-Anthony Towns, Minnesota â€" 48.3%
2. Kevin Durant, Golden State â€" 20.7%
3. LeBron James, Cleveland â€" 17.2%
Also receiving votes: Stephen Curry, Golden State; Anthony Davis, New Orleans; Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio; Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City

Now people know I love Lebron James and did you notice that i didn't have him on the list? The fact is he is too old and Curry is closer to 29 then he is 28. Im not going to start my team with him if i want to build a dynasty, due to his age.

Durant you can complain about being only 6 months younger, but a lanky guy with a huge wingspan I like and I think its safe to say there are quite a few good point guards or shooting guards out there so it would be asier to compliment a guy with durrant then it is with curry. How many good SFs are there out there?

KAT, Davis, Leonard I dont think I even need to put a case up for.

Irving is 24 years old, came up big in the playoffs and has a ring. Has 4 years on Curry and that fact alone means using him as your dynasty chip isnt a crazy idea. Statistically he is about to enter his prime and has that killer instinct.

The only possible area you can argue against me with a point is on Westbrook. In fairness i thought he was 1+ year younger then Curry. I did put him at the number 6 spot though. I can put a good case why i have though, I understand that the warriors have alot of guys that rack up assist but if i want a PG i want a guy who can both score and assist. Russ showed he can assist with 10.4 assists per game

So yeah I think your blinded by Curry love, there was nothing illogical on my list.

Jay is absolutely insane to have him number 2 on his list. So over the next 10 years who will do better Curry at 29-39 years old or Leonard at 25 to 35 years of age.





plumdog millionaire

All I know is that I'd rather start a franchise with Curry rather than Irving that's for sure

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: plumdog millionaire on October 27, 2016, 04:18:54 PM
All I know is that I'd rather start a franchise with Curry rather than Irving that's for sure
i agree, basically because i dont trust Kyrie's body to stay healthy

jvalles69

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 27, 2016, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on October 27, 2016, 04:18:54 PM
All I know is that I'd rather start a franchise with Curry rather than Irving that's for sure
i agree, basically because i dont trust Kyrie's body to stay healthy

I get both arguments, but you guys are forgetting when Curry was around Kyrie's age, those ankles were terrible and he barely strung a few seasons together, was even touted as a possible bust at some stages.  Turned it around and here we are.

Holz

#101
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on October 27, 2016, 04:18:54 PM
All I know is that I'd rather start a franchise with Curry rather than Irving that's for sure

Does that make you an Irving hater?

The fun thing is the answer will become clear over time.

I could make a huge call and say Kryie > Curry right now but i wont.

I will make a big call though.

Good luck starting your franchise with a 28 year old Guy who has never shown up big in the playoffs.

ill just leave this here


plumdog millionaire

Quote from: jvalles69 on October 27, 2016, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 27, 2016, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on October 27, 2016, 04:18:54 PM
All I know is that I'd rather start a franchise with Curry rather than Irving that's for sure
i agree, basically because i dont trust Kyrie's body to stay healthy

I get both arguments, but you guys are forgetting when Curry was around Kyrie's age, those ankles were terrible and he barely strung a few seasons together, was even touted as a possible bust at some stages.  Turned it around and here we are.
That's definitely true and I respect that point, but Curry's leap over the last couple of seasons is pretty unprecedented and I don't think it's reasonable to expect something similar to happen again.

jvalles69

Quote from: plumdog millionaire on October 27, 2016, 04:50:58 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 27, 2016, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 27, 2016, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on October 27, 2016, 04:18:54 PM
All I know is that I'd rather start a franchise with Curry rather than Irving that's for sure
i agree, basically because i dont trust Kyrie's body to stay healthy

I get both arguments, but you guys are forgetting when Curry was around Kyrie's age, those ankles were terrible and he barely strung a few seasons together, was even touted as a possible bust at some stages.  Turned it around and here we are.
That's definitely true and I respect that point, but Curry's leap over the last couple of seasons is pretty unprecedented and I don't think it's reasonable to expect something similar to happen again.

No doubting Curry's leap and at this stage I don't think Kyrie passes him legacy wise in terms of individual greatness, but that could change and would depend on circumstances as well.

Holz

Quote from: plumdog millionaire on October 27, 2016, 04:50:58 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 27, 2016, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 27, 2016, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on October 27, 2016, 04:18:54 PM
All I know is that I'd rather start a franchise with Curry rather than Irving that's for sure
i agree, basically because i dont trust Kyrie's body to stay healthy

I get both arguments, but you guys are forgetting when Curry was around Kyrie's age, those ankles were terrible and he barely strung a few seasons together, was even touted as a possible bust at some stages.  Turned it around and here we are.
That's definitely true and I respect that point, but Curry's leap over the last couple of seasons is pretty unprecedented and I don't think it's reasonable to expect something similar to happen again.
the thing is we dont really even need Irving to improve just stay healthy. We just saw what he was able to do in a finals series

remember he is just coming off a finals series of 27.1 points on 46.8% FG and 40.5% 3P and 93.9% FT. That is pretty crazy, even if he just stays at that level he would be one of the best franchise starters.

those numbers havent been replicated by another certain player in a finals series yet.