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Started by Jay, October 03, 2016, 10:55:56 PM

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Jay

MCW traded for Tony Snell

Makes what Philly got in return for MCW a couple of seasons ago look even more amazing. Can't wait to see Rondo, MCW, Wade, Butler, Lopez clogging up the paint together! Bulls trying to build a team out of the early 80s?

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Jay on October 17, 2016, 01:19:40 PM
MCW traded for Tony Snell

Makes what Philly got in return for MCW a couple of seasons ago look even more amazing. Can't wait to see Rondo, MCW, Wade, Butler, Lopez clogging up the paint together! Bulls trying to build a team out of the early 80s?
theres a 3pt line :o ;D

RiOtChEsS

 a trade rumor from Basketball Insiders' Michael Scotto, who reported Tuesday that the Heat and Sacramento Kings have discussed swapping Dragic for forward Rudy Gay and guard Darren Collison. From the Kings' perspective, this makes perfect sense: Gay wants out and reportedly likes the idea of going to Miami, and Dragic would be a massive upgrade at their weakest position.

insert vomit here :'(

Jay

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 08:23:54 PM
a trade rumor from Basketball Insiders' Michael Scotto, who reported Tuesday that the Heat and Sacramento Kings have discussed swapping Dragic for forward Rudy Gay and guard Darren Collison. From the Kings' perspective, this makes perfect sense: Gay wants out and reportedly likes the idea of going to Miami, and Dragic would be a massive upgrade at their weakest position.

insert vomit here :'(
Nah Miami aren't that stupid!

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 10:41:10 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 08:23:54 PM
a trade rumor from Basketball Insiders' Michael Scotto, who reported Tuesday that the Heat and Sacramento Kings have discussed swapping Dragic for forward Rudy Gay and guard Darren Collison. From the Kings' perspective, this makes perfect sense: Gay wants out and reportedly likes the idea of going to Miami, and Dragic would be a massive upgrade at their weakest position.

insert vomit here :'(
Nah Miami aren't that stupid!
Would damage the development of Winslow and others as well as limit the upside of Whiteside #wewouldbeshower

valkorum

I heard this one the other day.  As good as Dragic is, I think Kings would be giving up way too much if they gave up Gay and Collison.  Collison is due for a breakout year (IMO).  This will be the first time he is the #1 PG.

Another rumour thats been circulating is Gay for Rubio.  I would take that over Gay/Collison for Dragic

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: valkorum on October 20, 2016, 11:17:35 PM
I heard this one the other day.  As good as Dragic is, I think Kings would be giving up way too much if they gave up Gay and Collison.  Collison is due for a breakout year (IMO).  This will be the first time he is the #1 PG.

Another rumour thats been circulating is Gay for Rubio.  I would take that over Gay/Collison for Dragic
I dont like it for Miami, we need to develop Winslow, Richardson etc, bringing in an iso guy at the same position hurts them 10fold

jvalles69

Quote from: valkorum on October 20, 2016, 11:17:35 PM
I heard this one the other day.  As good as Dragic is, I think Kings would be giving up way too much if they gave up Gay and Collison.  Collison is due for a breakout year (IMO).  This will be the first time he is the #1 PG.

Another rumour thats been circulating is Gay for Rubio.  I would take that over Gay/Collison for Dragic

Collison breakout year?  You're kidding right? His breakout was meant to be when CP3 left the Hornets which he was starting PG...then he left for Indiana to be their starting PG...both failed miserably.  He is best and most dangerous when coming off the bench as the back up PG and that's been the case throughout his career, all efforts at starting have been mediocre.  I really like the guy, but he's not having a breakout 7 years into his career.  It's off to a horrible start too considering he is suspended for the first 8 games giving Ty Lawson (way better than Collison, has just flowered up a lot) a chance to steal the starting gig, Boogie loves Lawson.  Best he will see at the Kings is a time share with Lawson and Temple.  He'd have more opportunity at the Heat, but is a massive downgrade from Dragic.

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Jay


elephants

Why is there only games on the opening night then 10 the following night? Surely open with a bang?!

valkorum

Quote from: jvalles69 on October 21, 2016, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 20, 2016, 11:17:35 PM
I heard this one the other day.  As good as Dragic is, I think Kings would be giving up way too much if they gave up Gay and Collison.  Collison is due for a breakout year (IMO).  This will be the first time he is the #1 PG.

Another rumour thats been circulating is Gay for Rubio.  I would take that over Gay/Collison for Dragic

Collison breakout year?  You're kidding right? His breakout was meant to be when CP3 left the Hornets which he was starting PG...then he left for Indiana to be their starting PG...both failed miserably.  He is best and most dangerous when coming off the bench as the back up PG and that's been the case throughout his career, all efforts at starting have been mediocre.  I really like the guy, but he's not having a breakout 7 years into his career.  It's off to a horrible start too considering he is suspended for the first 8 games giving Ty Lawson (way better than Collison, has just flowered up a lot) a chance to steal the starting gig, Boogie loves Lawson.  Best he will see at the Kings is a time share with Lawson and Temple.  He'd have more opportunity at the Heat, but is a massive downgrade from Dragic.

Collison will be the #1 PG at Kings this season.  Ok, maybe the wrong word (breakout)... but he can average 15 and 6 as a starter (he did in 2015 from 45 games - all starts)

You would be very happy for your starting PG to average 15 + 6, then with Lawson coming off the bench or even playing together (which they did in pre-season games).

jvalles69

Quote from: valkorum on October 25, 2016, 05:24:44 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 21, 2016, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 20, 2016, 11:17:35 PM
I heard this one the other day.  As good as Dragic is, I think Kings would be giving up way too much if they gave up Gay and Collison.  Collison is due for a breakout year (IMO).  This will be the first time he is the #1 PG.

Another rumour thats been circulating is Gay for Rubio.  I would take that over Gay/Collison for Dragic

Collison breakout year?  You're kidding right? His breakout was meant to be when CP3 left the Hornets which he was starting PG...then he left for Indiana to be their starting PG...both failed miserably.  He is best and most dangerous when coming off the bench as the back up PG and that's been the case throughout his career, all efforts at starting have been mediocre.  I really like the guy, but he's not having a breakout 7 years into his career.  It's off to a horrible start too considering he is suspended for the first 8 games giving Ty Lawson (way better than Collison, has just flowered up a lot) a chance to steal the starting gig, Boogie loves Lawson.  Best he will see at the Kings is a time share with Lawson and Temple.  He'd have more opportunity at the Heat, but is a massive downgrade from Dragic.

Collison will be the #1 PG at Kings this season.  Ok, maybe the wrong word (breakout)... but he can average 15 and 6 as a starter (he did in 2015 from 45 games - all starts)

You would be very happy for your starting PG to average 15 + 6, then with Lawson coming off the bench or even playing together (which they did in pre-season games).

That makes more sense, you can't breakout from numbers you've already been producing, lol!  Lawson will be balling these first 8 games though and at their best I'd rather have Lawson starting, will be interesting to see if he can keep focused, was an absolute star for a few years at Denver.

valkorum

Quote from: jvalles69 on October 25, 2016, 06:21:23 PM
That makes more sense, you can't breakout from numbers you've already been producing, lol!  Lawson will be balling these first 8 games though and at their best I'd rather have Lawson starting, will be interesting to see if he can keep focused, was an absolute star for a few years at Denver.

It would still be a "breakout" in that everyone sees him as a #2 PG off the bench.  Where his job is to score quickly, lets see if he can maintain a 15 + 6 as a starter.

jvalles69

Quote from: valkorum on October 25, 2016, 07:33:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 25, 2016, 06:21:23 PM
That makes more sense, you can't breakout from numbers you've already been producing, lol!  Lawson will be balling these first 8 games though and at their best I'd rather have Lawson starting, will be interesting to see if he can keep focused, was an absolute star for a few years at Denver.

It would still be a "breakout" in that everyone sees him as a #2 PG off the bench.  Where his job is to score quickly, lets see if he can maintain a 15 + 6 as a starter.

15-16  30mins 14pts 4.3ass
14-15  35mins 16pts 5.6ass
13-14  26mins 11pts 3.7ass
12-13  29mins 12pts 5.1ass
11-12  31mins 10pts 4.8ass
10-11  30mins 13pts 5.1ass
09-10  28mins 12pts 5.7ass

You're quoting close to his career stats, stop using the term breakout.  :P