NBA Season 2016/17

[Levi434]

1. Curry
2. Thomas
3. Harden
4. Westbrook
5. Leonard

[TomK]

Westbrook
Harden
Leonard
James
Thomas

[Jay]

A few notes on why I've given Curry a massive bump in MVP ranks since doing some research..

Warriors with Curry on-court: +16.9
Warriors with Curry off-court: -0.7
His net rating of +17.5 is easily the best of the Warriors, I'll break it down further than that. But simply, this team has the 4th best point differential in NBA history, but are outscored when Curry is on the bench.

Durant with Curry on-court: +19.2 net rating
Durant with Curry off-court: +6.2
Curry with Durant off-court: +14.4
Curry being able to keep the Warriors at such an absurd net rating when Durant is out is pretty incredible.

Klay with Curry on-court: +19.0
Klay with Curry off-court: +5.1
Curry with Klay off-court: +13.3

Draymond with Curry on-court: +17.6
Draymond with Curry off-court: +6.8
Curry with Draymond off-court: +15.5

Curry without Green, Klay and Durant: 121.7 offensive rating
Curry without Green, Durant: 122.2 offensive rating
Curry without Green, Klay: 124.2 offensive rating
Curry without Durant, Klay: 115.2 offensive rating
All marks would be the best in the league.

Here's my favourite one:
Warriors with Draymond, Klay, Durant on-court. Curry off-court: 108.5 offensive rating, 103.7 defensive rating = +4.8 net rating.
But when all 4 of them are on the court? 125.8 offensive rating, 101.7 defensive rating = +24.1 net rating
THAT IS INSANE. THE LINEUP WITH ALL OF DURANT, KLAY, GREEN ON COURT BUT WITH NO CURRY HAS A WORSE OFFENSIVE RATING THAN CURRY WITHOUT ALL OF, OR ANY 2 OF DURANT/KLAY/GREEN.

And finally, he's equal 1st in offensive RPM (3rd overall), and has a 61.8 TS% in the clutch which ranks 4th among qualified guys.

Too many numbers? Point is that yes Curry has regressed individually from last year, but even so, he is still incredible. Curry is the engine that makes the best team, best offense in the league go and isn't getting enough love in MVP talks due to the unrepeatable standards he set for himself last season. Aaaand after writing all that I think I might need to adjust my list again, screw this season :P

[Mat0369]

MVP

1. Joel Embiid
2. Dario Saric
3. Rest of league

DPOY

1. Embiid
2. Covington
3. Who cares

ROY

1. Embiid
2. Saric
3. Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot

Most improved

1. Covington
2. TJ McConnell
3. 6'ers pick odds

Coach of the year

1. Brett Brown
2. Earl Watson
3. Frank Vogel
4. Jeff Hornacek

6th Man
1. Nik Stauskas

Done!

[Jay]

You forgot exec of the year...

[Mat0369]

It probably goes to Vlade. 2019 first rounder overall baby!

[Levi434]

Jay those stats are absolutely majestic!

Exact reason why I'd give him the MVP. Add the wins total being 67+ for 3rd year in a row.

[Levi434]

A certain team was fortunate today!

[Jay]

CP3 Point God.

[Jay]

Btw, can anyone explain why Indy took a timeout on their last possession? Allowed Cleveland to fix their defensive personnel and set up a scheme. You get the rebound, give it to George and push it up the court!

Utah didn't call a timeout and that was after a made bucket, they went down and scored the game winner. Not calling the timeout allowed them to attack Jamal Crawford who would've certainly been replaced if play was stopped.

Today was a good example of how massive coaching is in the playoffs. One team won because of it, and another lost.

[Jay]

Isaiah :-*

[RiOtChEsS]

Bulls are gonna test the C's

[Jay]

Bulls are gonna test the C's

Yup. This is exactly why I wanted Taj Gibson at the deadline, we just cannot rebound the basketball.

[Jay]

Its just frustrating that Isaiah with all he's going through and how tough it would have been to focus on basketball for those 48 minutes still had an amazing game but no one stepped up with him apart from Al.

Was just such a sloppy game by us, miscommunication on defense leading to open dunks, careless turnovers, inability to cover a simple pick 'n pop to Bobby freaking Portis.

Isaiah's going to average 30 at super efficiency this series, they can't guard him, but its not going to be enough if Crowder, Smart, Johnson and Olynyk no-show like they did today.

[RiOtChEsS]

Bulls are gonna test the C's

Yup. This is exactly why I wanted Taj Gibson at the deadline, we just cannot rebound the basketball.

Horford sounded like a good sign, but in hindsight his rebounding numbers have dipped the last 4 years considerably, down from 10 to high 6's, it has also coincided with his 3pt attempts increasing, is it the sort of adjustment the coach can approach him with?

For me the main thing is they have an old dawg in Wade who is worth his weight in postseason gold and a gun player in Butler, we are talking 2 top dogs vs 1 #badmatchup