NBA Season 2016/17

[killerbees]

I see it as, IF Thunder finish 4th, they only drop one placing in the Western Conference from last year after losing Durant.

yeah but dont games won count more then seedings?

if they win 46 games and finish 4th, thats quite abit away from the 55 games they won last year.

add to that they did add a little, so would argue they have a better squad then they had last year (excluding Durrant who missed 10 games).

once you take into account the east he plays for the 10th best team in the NBA out of 30 so only slightly above average,

Sorry Holz, just checking - you're not comparing the team w/out Durant to the team now??  ???  :o   ;)

Or are you comparing them now to the 10-game team from last season minus Durant??  ;)

what i was trying to say is Durrant is a huge out but besides that they improved a little bit (not close to Durrant obvisouly) So if durrant is worth say -10 games the other additions might be worth +3 or 4.

so with the 10 games durrant missed I take OKC 17 over OKC 16.

Not going to discuss this anymore. Hes clearly having a great season and I rank him then 4th or 5th best player in the league. I prefer effeciency then just raw numbers. If you like raw numbers pick westbrook if you like efficiency, making others around you better and defence then pick a Lebron James.

They lost Durant and Ibaka, so option 1 and 3 on offence.

Sabonis is a statue at that end. So is Roberson.

I'm not even close to saying Westbrook is the best player in the league, that is without a doubt Lebron, but he should 100% be top 2 in MVP this year. Tak ehim off that squad they win 15

[Holz]

They lost Durant and Ibaka, so option 1 and 3 on offence.

Sabonis is a statue at that end. So is Roberson.

Well they gained Oladipo.

Ibaka in 16 went 12.6 points

Oladipo going 16.4 points

thats what i was saying about others actually getting better. Was mainly Oladipo > Ibaka. Would have actually tipped OKC to win the West if they had Durrant.

The thing I want to watch is how Mcdermott goes. He is actually a good 3 point shooter (the only one Westbrook has) shooting 42.5% in 16 and was going at 37.3% in Chicago this year. Now done to 26.9%.

Just to see how good a passer Westbrook actually is. Yes he has loads of assists but does he make his team mates better. Like Kyle Korver has increased his 3 point percentage from 40.9% in Atlanta to 48.7% in Cleveland. A career high in makes per game.

[plumdog millionaire]

D'Lo with one of the worst stat lines you'll see:

2/10 FG, 0/5 3PT,  1/2 FT, 7 TO AND he fouled out in 25 minutes!

its pretty terrible.

Almost David Wesley Terrible

0/13 FG, 1 Assist, 1 Rebound and 4 TOs with 4 PFs in 28 minutes.

however the most useless player ever is

Hollis Thompson

0/3 FG, 0 Rebounds 0 Assists 0 steals 0 Blocks but he did manage to get 1 Foul.

Gee way to throw Hollis Thompson under the bus! Career 40% 3 point shooter!

[Mat0369]

D'Lo with one of the worst stat lines you'll see:

2/10 FG, 0/5 3PT,  1/2 FT, 7 TO AND he fouled out in 25 minutes!

His team mate Swaggy wasn't any better. 0-9 FG, 0-7 3P%, 3 rebounds and 1 foul.

[plumdog millionaire]

D'Lo with one of the worst stat lines you'll see:

2/10 FG, 0/5 3PT,  1/2 FT, 7 TO AND he fouled out in 25 minutes!

His team mate Swaggy wasn't any better. 0-9 FG, 0-7 3P%, 3 rebounds and 1 foul.

Awful but slightly better than 7 TO's and 6 fouls

The Lakers are sooo woeful

[jvalles69]

D'Lo with one of the worst stat lines you'll see:

2/10 FG, 0/5 3PT,  1/2 FT, 7 TO AND he fouled out in 25 minutes!

His team mate Swaggy wasn't any better. 0-9 FG, 0-7 3P%, 3 rebounds and 1 foul.

Awful but slightly better than 7 TO's and 6 fouls

The Lakers are sooo woeful

Jahlil did this to my fantasy team a few weeks ago... 4pts, 5fls, 7TO's...made his way to waivers shortly after.

[R.Griffen]

They lost Durant and Ibaka, so option 1 and 3 on offence.

Sabonis is a statue at that end. So is Roberson.

The thing I want to watch is how Mcdermott goes. He is actually a good 3 point shooter (the only one Westbrook has) shooting 42.5% in 16 and was going at 37.3% in Chicago this year. Now done to 26.9%.

Have you never watched basketball? Obviously McDermott is a three point shooter? He always has been. Go watch highlights from him at Creighton. Players have down patches and people make it sound like it's easy to change teams. Especially changing completely different systems. The Bulls are nothing like what McDermott is in atm

[Jay]

D'Lo with one of the worst stat lines you'll see:

2/10 FG, 0/5 3PT,  1/2 FT, 7 TO AND he fouled out in 25 minutes!

its pretty terrible.

Almost David Wesley Terrible

0/13 FG, 1 Assist, 1 Rebound and 4 TOs with 4 PFs in 28 minutes.

Hey, Wesley was a +2 in that game! :P

A good example of how dodgy using plus/minus as a be all and end all stat can be..

[plumdog millionaire]

D'Lo with one of the worst stat lines you'll see:

2/10 FG, 0/5 3PT,  1/2 FT, 7 TO AND he fouled out in 25 minutes!

its pretty terrible.

Almost David Wesley Terrible

0/13 FG, 1 Assist, 1 Rebound and 4 TOs with 4 PFs in 28 minutes.

Hey, Wesley was a +2 in that game! :P

A good example of how dodgy using plus/minus as a be all and end all stat can be..

I like using it when talking about games that end with a high winning margin, but someone has a low/negative +/- with high minutes. Basically Reggie Jackson  :P

[LaHug]

D'Lo with one of the worst stat lines you'll see:

2/10 FG, 0/5 3PT,  1/2 FT, 7 TO AND he fouled out in 25 minutes!

its pretty terrible.

Almost David Wesley Terrible

0/13 FG, 1 Assist, 1 Rebound and 4 TOs with 4 PFs in 28 minutes.

Hey, Wesley was a +2 in that game! :P

A good example of how dodgy using plus/minus as a be all and end all stat can be..

I like using it when talking about games that end with a high winning margin, but someone has a low/negative +/- with high minutes. Basically Reggie Jackson  :P

I like looking at +/- for Cleveland games (while Love's been out) because the team is built so much on the Big 3 that you see things like LeBron +18 in 39 minutes but the team loses by 4 :P

[plumdog millionaire]

D'Lo with one of the worst stat lines you'll see:

2/10 FG, 0/5 3PT,  1/2 FT, 7 TO AND he fouled out in 25 minutes!

its pretty terrible.

Almost David Wesley Terrible

0/13 FG, 1 Assist, 1 Rebound and 4 TOs with 4 PFs in 28 minutes.

Hey, Wesley was a +2 in that game! :P

A good example of how dodgy using plus/minus as a be all and end all stat can be..

I like using it when talking about games that end with a high winning margin, but someone has a low/negative +/- with high minutes. Basically Reggie Jackson  :P

I like looking at +/- for Cleveland games (while Love's been out) because the team is built so much on the Big 3 that you see things like LeBron +18 in 39 minutes but the team loses by 4 :P

Haha yeah man also with Westbrook too!

[Holz]

D'Lo with one of the worst stat lines you'll see:

2/10 FG, 0/5 3PT,  1/2 FT, 7 TO AND he fouled out in 25 minutes!

its pretty terrible.

Almost David Wesley Terrible

0/13 FG, 1 Assist, 1 Rebound and 4 TOs with 4 PFs in 28 minutes.

Hey, Wesley was a +2 in that game! :P

A good example of how dodgy using plus/minus as a be all and end all stat can be..

I like using it when talking about games that end with a high winning margin, but someone has a low/negative +/- with high minutes. Basically Reggie Jackson  :P

I like looking at +/- for Cleveland games (while Love's been out) because the team is built so much on the Big 3 that you see things like LeBron +18 in 39 minutes but the team loses by 4 :P

Love back in is huge. Cav's have been slipping but totally understandable without one of their important players.

happens every year Cavs look in trouble then gear up for finals and steam roll the east. How many East games do we see lebron and Co losing? my bet is on 3 or under.

[LaHug]

D'Lo with one of the worst stat lines you'll see:

2/10 FG, 0/5 3PT,  1/2 FT, 7 TO AND he fouled out in 25 minutes!

its pretty terrible.

Almost David Wesley Terrible

0/13 FG, 1 Assist, 1 Rebound and 4 TOs with 4 PFs in 28 minutes.

Hey, Wesley was a +2 in that game! :P

A good example of how dodgy using plus/minus as a be all and end all stat can be..

I like using it when talking about games that end with a high winning margin, but someone has a low/negative +/- with high minutes. Basically Reggie Jackson  :P

I like looking at +/- for Cleveland games (while Love's been out) because the team is built so much on the Big 3 that you see things like LeBron +18 in 39 minutes but the team loses by 4 :P

Love back in is huge. Cav's have been slipping but totally understandable without one of their important players.

happens every year Cavs look in trouble then gear up for finals and steam roll the east. How many East games do we see lebron and Co losing? my bet is on 3 or under.

I bet they lose 4 games, all to Miami in the first round.

[killerbees]

i care more about getting 7 games of Celtics Wizards if I can.

[Cookie Monster]

4th-7th in the West is heating up nicely!

Could be all turned upside down by the end of the regular season!

Thunder played extremely well today, very proud to go on the road with a team in a very similar position to us and take control like we did. Hopefully we can consistently put up those type of performances.

Last year Thunder didn't really start catching anyones eyes until late in the season and even until Conference Semis, very different circumstances this season but hopefully we can come up big in these last 12 or so games.

I've always said and known that we're so much better when Westbrook puts up 25 points and 15 assists. We play so much better when everyone's involved.

Also, Toronto were 1 of the 4 teams that the Thunder play in the home stretch with a better record.


But for the West and those 4th-7th spots.

I feel Spurs will end up with the No.1 seed
Warriors will finish in 2nd with the Rockets at 3rd.

I don't see Utah falling very far but I can see the Thunder pulling up into 5th.

It'll be very tight under that but I think the Clippers will edge out the Grizzlies for 6th with Denver rounding out the 8.

Final Standings..

1. Spurs
2. Warriors
3. Rockets
4. Jazz
5. Thunder
6. Clippers
7. Grizzlies
8. Nuggets


Also as a Thunder fan, I can see us progressing into the Semi's if we play against Utah and we're a chance against the Rockets. The games against Houston this season have all been amazing and gone down to the buzzer and I would love to see a Thunder/Rockets series.