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Holz

Quote from: LaHug on February 28, 2017, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Embiid out indefinitely. That makes me sad

So Embiid may miss the rest of the season, Simmons is out for the season, Noel traded for peanuts. Is The Process falling apart?

or running as planned?

next year they have Embiid Simmons Saric all ready to go and a top 5 pick who i hope is Malik Monk.

A SG which they desperately need, shooting 41.9% from 3 and able to guard point guards.

McConnel Monk Simmons Saric Embiid thats a half decent team if it gets out on the park.


Mat0369

If the Lakers pick conveys it could be 2 top 5 guys so potentially a stealth tank

RiOtChEsS

Players only broadcast Cavs Vs Bucks 8)

RiOtChEsS

even the camera angles are tighter, giving a truer sense of how quick this game is

killerbees

Quote from: Holz on February 28, 2017, 11:27:21 AM
Quote from: LaHug on February 28, 2017, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Embiid out indefinitely. That makes me sad

So Embiid may miss the rest of the season, Simmons is out for the season, Noel traded for peanuts. Is The Process falling apart?

or running as planned?

next year they have Embiid Simmons Saric all ready to go and a top 5 pick who i hope is Malik Monk.

A SG which they desperately need, shooting 41.9% from 3 and able to guard point guards.

McConnel Monk Simmons Saric Embiid thats a half decent team if it gets out on the park.

Do we think Embiid ever gets on the park? He has played only 30 odd games in 3 years, his talent is undeniable, but i don't understand how people arent more worried about another injury. He has full Yao Ming potential to fall apart due to size.

They will have Sacramento's pick, so they are getting 2-5 anyway, even if they dont get the lakers

LaHug

Quote from: killerbees on February 28, 2017, 12:27:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 28, 2017, 11:27:21 AM
Quote from: LaHug on February 28, 2017, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Embiid out indefinitely. That makes me sad

So Embiid may miss the rest of the season, Simmons is out for the season, Noel traded for peanuts. Is The Process falling apart?

or running as planned?

next year they have Embiid Simmons Saric all ready to go and a top 5 pick who i hope is Malik Monk.

A SG which they desperately need, shooting 41.9% from 3 and able to guard point guards.

McConnel Monk Simmons Saric Embiid thats a half decent team if it gets out on the park.

Do we think Embiid ever gets on the park? He has played only 30 odd games in 3 years, his talent is undeniable, but i don't understand how people arent more worried about another injury. He has full Yao Ming potential to fall apart due to size.

They will have Sacramento's pick, so they are getting 2-5 anyway, even if they dont get the lakers

That's the point I was trying to make. No certainty Embiid ever plays even half a season and no certainty Simmons does either (foot injuries in big people derail careers).

I thought the Sac pick was only a pick swap??

Holz

Quote from: LaHug on February 28, 2017, 12:53:28 PM
Quote from: killerbees on February 28, 2017, 12:27:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 28, 2017, 11:27:21 AM
Quote from: LaHug on February 28, 2017, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Embiid out indefinitely. That makes me sad

So Embiid may miss the rest of the season, Simmons is out for the season, Noel traded for peanuts. Is The Process falling apart?

or running as planned?

next year they have Embiid Simmons Saric all ready to go and a top 5 pick who i hope is Malik Monk.

A SG which they desperately need, shooting 41.9% from 3 and able to guard point guards.

McConnel Monk Simmons Saric Embiid thats a half decent team if it gets out on the park.

Do we think Embiid ever gets on the park? He has played only 30 odd games in 3 years, his talent is undeniable, but i don't understand how people arent more worried about another injury. He has full Yao Ming potential to fall apart due to size.

They will have Sacramento's pick, so they are getting 2-5 anyway, even if they dont get the lakers

That's the point I was trying to make. No certainty Embiid ever plays even half a season and no certainty Simmons does either (foot injuries in big people derail careers).

I thought the Sac pick was only a pick swap??
Embiid you should have legit questions on. However you would think he has to have a greater then a 50% chance.

Simmon would be very confident on yeah foot injury is bad but he is young and not riddled with injuries like embiid. Hes a big guy but not that big more of a kevin durrant type. Plus i think they will stick him at point so not battling the big guys like Embiid has to.

killerbees

Quote from: LaHug on February 28, 2017, 12:53:28 PM
Quote from: killerbees on February 28, 2017, 12:27:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 28, 2017, 11:27:21 AM
Quote from: LaHug on February 28, 2017, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Embiid out indefinitely. That makes me sad

So Embiid may miss the rest of the season, Simmons is out for the season, Noel traded for peanuts. Is The Process falling apart?

or running as planned?

next year they have Embiid Simmons Saric all ready to go and a top 5 pick who i hope is Malik Monk.

A SG which they desperately need, shooting 41.9% from 3 and able to guard point guards.

McConnel Monk Simmons Saric Embiid thats a half decent team if it gets out on the park.

Do we think Embiid ever gets on the park? He has played only 30 odd games in 3 years, his talent is undeniable, but i don't understand how people arent more worried about another injury. He has full Yao Ming potential to fall apart due to size.

They will have Sacramento's pick, so they are getting 2-5 anyway, even if they dont get the lakers

That's the point I was trying to make. No certainty Embiid ever plays even half a season and no certainty Simmons does either (foot injuries in big people derail careers).

I thought the Sac pick was only a pick swap??

It is but should be top 3/4

killerbees

Quote from: Holz on February 28, 2017, 12:59:38 PM
Quote from: LaHug on February 28, 2017, 12:53:28 PM
Quote from: killerbees on February 28, 2017, 12:27:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 28, 2017, 11:27:21 AM
Quote from: LaHug on February 28, 2017, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Embiid out indefinitely. That makes me sad

So Embiid may miss the rest of the season, Simmons is out for the season, Noel traded for peanuts. Is The Process falling apart?

or running as planned?

next year they have Embiid Simmons Saric all ready to go and a top 5 pick who i hope is Malik Monk.

A SG which they desperately need, shooting 41.9% from 3 and able to guard point guards.

McConnel Monk Simmons Saric Embiid thats a half decent team if it gets out on the park.

Do we think Embiid ever gets on the park? He has played only 30 odd games in 3 years, his talent is undeniable, but i don't understand how people arent more worried about another injury. He has full Yao Ming potential to fall apart due to size.

They will have Sacramento's pick, so they are getting 2-5 anyway, even if they dont get the lakers

That's the point I was trying to make. No certainty Embiid ever plays even half a season and no certainty Simmons does either (foot injuries in big people derail careers).

I thought the Sac pick was only a pick swap??
Embiid you should have legit questions on. However you would think he has to have a greater then a 50% chance.

Simmon would be very confident on yeah foot injury is bad but he is young and not riddled with injuries like embiid. Hes a big guy but not that big more of a kevin durrant type. Plus i think they will stick him at point so not battling the big guys like Embiid has to.

I dunno if i'd say Embiid as high as 50%, i think simmons should be fine, but they are stealth tanking again and playing safe

Toga

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2017, 12:00:09 PM
If the Lakers pick conveys it could be 2 top 5 guys so potentially a stealth tank

Makes sense for Philly to want to finish below LA now, if they fall into the top 3 picks then there's an even better chance LA conveys. Two top 5 picks in this draft would be tasty.

TomK


killerbees


valkorum

Lets see if I can explain this properly.

Sacramento owes its own 2017 1st round pick to Chicago if it is anywhere between 11-30 (1st round, top 10 protected). If Sacramento ends up between 1-10 it will give Chicago its 2017 2nd round pick instead.

Sacramento must swap its pick with Philadelphia if Sacramento's pick is better than Philadelphia's.  For example if Sacramento landed the 9th pick and Philadelphia had the 11th, then we would swap picks... but we would not owe that 11th pick to Chicago (as its Philadelphia's pick, not ours)

Sacramento does not get New Orleans' pick this year if New Orleans' lands between 1-3. In that case, the pick becomes top 1 protected for 2018 - 2020 and unprotected in 2021.

Sacramento owns Philadelphia’s 2017 2nd round pick outright.

valkorum

Sacramento Best Case Scenario

Pelicans overtake kings in standings and land the 8-12th pick
Kings land the 4-7th (ish) pick
76'ers land the 1-4 pick

We wouldnt swap picks with 76'ers and we wouldnt lose our 1st round to Chicago.  Therefore:

Kings get 2 x 1st round picks (their own plus Pelicans)
Kings keep 76'ers 2nd round (which would be high due to 76'ers being lower than Kings)
Chicago gets early 2nd round pick from Kings

killerbees

Quote from: valkorum on February 28, 2017, 05:30:07 PM
Lets see if I can explain this properly.

Sacramento owes its own 2017 1st round pick to Chicago if it is anywhere between 11-30 (1st round, top 10 protected). If Sacramento ends up between 1-10 it will give Chicago its 2017 2nd round pick instead.

Sacramento must swap its pick with Philadelphia if Sacramento's pick is better than Philadelphia's.  For example if Sacramento landed the 9th pick and Philadelphia had the 11th, then we would swap picks... but we would not owe that 11th pick to Chicago (as its Philadelphia's pick, not ours)

Sacramento does not get New Orleans' pick this year if New Orleans' lands between 1-3. In that case, the pick becomes top 1 protected for 2018 - 2020 and unprotected in 2021.

Sacramento owns Philadelphia’s 2017 2nd round pick outright.

Yeah so you got fleeced on both the stauskas salary dump and the boogie deal