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Started by Jay, October 03, 2016, 10:55:56 PM

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Jay

Biggest fleecing of the day was OKC getting Taj and McDermott for Payne. Not sure why the Celtics didn't go after Taj, he would certainly help us and we could've offered more than OKC did.

I'm fine with not improving our team this year because unlike Toronto we have young talent and don't need to give up assets just to lose in 6 rather than 5 to Cleveland, but Horford isn't getting any younger and Isaiah + Avery are coming close to a pay day - need to be careful of not getting stuck in the middle.

RiOtChEsS

Noel to Dallas for Bogut, Anderson and a 1st rounder, 76'ers stackin them assets

Mat0369

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 24, 2017, 09:35:01 AM
Noel to Dallas for Bogut, Anderson and a 1st rounder, 76'ers stackin them assets

That trade is terrible. It's 1-18 protected so they traded Noel for 2 seconds. I miss Hinkie

LaHug

Quote from: Andrew3747 on February 24, 2017, 01:27:22 AM
Yeah, Zaza is an all star so yeahhh.

Except that he's not and never has been... Kinda hurting your argument by spouting that stuff. (And I'm not taking sides, just think facts should actually be facts.)

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 24, 2017, 09:54:22 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 24, 2017, 09:35:01 AM
Noel to Dallas for Bogut, Anderson and a 1st rounder, 76'ers stackin them assets

That trade is terrible. It's 1-18 protected so they traded Noel for 2 seconds. I miss Hinkie

Yeah, awful trade for Philly. Could have got as much for Okafor which would have been much better. BC has no idea.

Mat0369

It's because they likely don't want to match the near max offer sheet he will receive to be a backup center. It feels like Colangelo panicked. The thing is they could have matched the offer and traded him later considering when guys like Dario, Simmons and Embiid will need to get paid.

I saw a tweet that summed it up perfectly. Hinkie was ridiculed for turning bad players into 2nd round picks. Colangelo is turning good players into 2nd round picks.

Holz

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 24, 2017, 09:54:22 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 24, 2017, 09:35:01 AM
Noel to Dallas for Bogut, Anderson and a 1st rounder, 76'ers stackin them assets

That trade is terrible. It's 1-18 protected so they traded Noel for 2 seconds. I miss Hinkie

Hinkie must be really frustrated at the moment did all the good work and its being undone.

there is another way to look at it though. It does solve their 3 big problem maybe they will try and make Embiid and Jah work.

Mat0369

Jah is going to get traded in the off-season as well. They can't play together and Jah's lack of defensive ability will kill the 2nd unit. The plan is to go with Embiid and have Holmes back him up.

Mat0369

How bad must the offers been for Jah that two 2nds got the deal done for Noel....

Andrew3747

Quote from: LaHug on February 24, 2017, 09:56:59 AM
Quote from: Andrew3747 on February 24, 2017, 01:27:22 AM
Yeah, Zaza is an all star so yeahhh.

Except that he's not and never has been... Kinda hurting your argument by spouting that stuff. (And I'm not taking sides, just think facts should actually be facts.)



He was first in votes for centres. Kind of screws up the "well he is an all star" thing. Iverson was an all star too when he played like 6 mins for 5 games.

Holz

Quote from: Andrew3747 on February 24, 2017, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: LaHug on February 24, 2017, 09:56:59 AM
Quote from: Andrew3747 on February 24, 2017, 01:27:22 AM
Yeah, Zaza is an all star so yeahhh.

Except that he's not and never has been... Kinda hurting your argument by spouting that stuff. (And I'm not taking sides, just think facts should actually be facts.)



He was first in votes for centres. Kind of screws up the "well he is an all star" thing. Iverson was an all star too when he played like 6 mins for 5 games.

Its a ridiculous argument. George is clearly a good player. he is 3 time all NBA and 3 time all defensive NBA. they dont put scrubs on that list.

he clearly was good in 2014 when they got the number 1 seed over Lebron and Co and took the ECF to a 6 game series.

he hasnt got back to that elite level.

bascially on a bad team i want butler to carry and he is 1 on 1 the better player. If i have stars already and i just want a guy to fill a role then i go for george.

Andrew3747

Can you show me where and how he was @ an elite level? Stats say no, eye test say no. He would be a great role player on a championship team I agree, but he will never be the best player on a ring winning team. Like I said, he played a great series vs LeBron and vs Toronto, but thats it and people act like he is the 2nd best player in the east.

plumdog millionaire

I don't know how but this thread is unbearable now with all the irrelevant arguments

Holz

Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 24, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
I don't know how but this thread is unbearable now with all the irrelevant arguments

nothing much has happend, All star was a yawn fest.

I reckon its abit of a reflection of the NBA at the moment the regular season is the worst it has been.

RiOtChEsS

Rumors are the 76ers will cut Bogut and he may make his way to Cavs with Dwill after the Mavs bought his contract out...

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 24, 2017, 09:54:22 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 24, 2017, 09:35:01 AM
Noel to Dallas for Bogut, Anderson and a 1st rounder, 76'ers stackin them assets

That trade is terrible. It's 1-18 protected so they traded Noel for 2 seconds. I miss Hinkie
damn that was left out of the article i read, that actually looks good for the Mavs, Noel has good upside in a starting role

Mat0369

They wanted Bogut as an expiring to deal to a team with Jah. 6'ers now also have to cut someone to aquire Bogut before cutting him. My guess is Splitter.

I like the update on Colangelo's wiki page.