NBA Season 2016/17

[Holz]

really interested to see who gets mvp out of Westbrook and Davis. Davis 52 points but in 31 minutes.

I would give it to Westbrook with 41 in 19 minutes.

I really hope we get to see Davis Westbrook combo though no idea why davis signed the contract extension yeah he got paid but moving to a top team and being a contender surely he would make money on endoresement.

Davis is such a great player really has gone under the radar this year.

[TomK]

Boogie off to New Orleans! AD and Cousins, insane frontcourt!

[TomK]

Boogie off to New Orleans! AD and Cousins, insane frontcourt!

So the trade is

Kings get: Buddy Hield, Tyreke Evans, Langston Galloway, 2017 1st Rounder and 2nd Rounder

Pelicans get: Cousins and Omri Casspi

[Mat0369]

Philly have a pick swap this year and unprotected first next year. Thanks Sacramento.

[Holz]

Philly have a pick swap this year and unprotected first next year. Thanks Sacramento.

geez thats great news. Sacremento you would think will fall apart in the west. He carried that team hard.

fantastic news as guy who likes both philly and new orleans. Great to see Davis play with a decent player for the first time. Probably abit top heavy in the front and very interested to see how it goes.

You would think small ball teams might struggle to stop these two.

would love to see them pick up one of the free agents in the offseason to do some massive damage.

[valkorum]

Philly have a pick swap this year and unprotected first next year. Thanks Sacramento.

Only if we end up with a pick lower than yours do we swap, but the chances of that are now more likely.

I can't believe we did this trade, we basically got nothing back.  Looks like we are going full rebuild.

[Holz]

Philly have a pick swap this year and unprotected first next year. Thanks Sacramento.

Only if we end up with a pick lower than yours do we swap, but the chances of that are now more likely.

I can't believe we did this trade, we basically got nothing back.  Looks like we are going full rebuild.

valk does this mean philly can keep their 1st this year then trade the 2018 for your pick and if you got say the 1st pick in the draft philly get it?

[RiOtChEsS]

Poor Valk

[Mat0369]

Holz, we get the swap this year and their pick unprotected regardless next year. It was part of the Stauskas deal. Because they owed Chicago a future lottery protected first they gave the 6'ers swap rights and then the unprotected future first was part of the deal. Philly don't send anything to the Kings next season for the first.


Hinkie just keeps on giving.

[valkorum]

Holz, we get the swap this year and their pick unprotected regardless next year. It was part of the Stauskas deal. Because they owed Chicago a future lottery protected first they gave the 6'ers swap rights and then the unprotected future first was part of the deal. Philly don't send anything to the Kings next season for the first.


Hinkie just keeps on giving.

IF we don't swap picks this season then we give you our 2019 pick
The Chicago pick is top 10 protected, so that looks safe now.

[Mat0369]

Actually, I screwed up, it's 2019 unprotected. Pick swap has no bearing on the pick in 2019. Even if Philly use the swap they still get an unprotected 2019 pick. This year was the last in the swap rights. Kings keep their 2018 pick regardless.

[Toga]

Still can't believe Boogie will be teaming up with the Brow in New Orleans! Crazy stuff

[Jay]

Poor poor Valk :( the Kings were already the worst franchise in American Professional Sports but this just confirms it. Let me just go through everything that is wrong with this whole situation:

1. Some may disagree with me, but in my opinion, trading Cousins was always going to be a bad idea unless they were going to change management because we all knew that draft picks would be a key part of the trade and that the Kings drafting is absolutely horrible. So any first rounder that they receive, its likely they would waste it almost instantly. Let's look at the Kings first picks in each draft since Cousins: Fredette, Thomas Robinson, Mclemore, Stauskas, Cauley-Stein and Georgios Papagiannis. Yuck. Oh, and all of those players were drafted in the lottery. The Kings best draft selection since Cousins actually came in the 2nd round, that was Isaiah Thomas - what a steal! Oh, but then they let Isaiah go for nothing so they could save $4 million and downgrade to Darren Collison.

2. The funny thing with this is that they just traded their franchise player and arguably best big man in the entire league for an old rookie who hasn't shown anything at NBA level, and a pick that will not be in the top 3, yet this still isn't the worst trade that the Kings have made in the last 2 years. I still think that the Philly trade is in the top 5 worst in NBA history and today's events make it look even worse. Let's just go over that trade one more time, Sacremento gave up their unprotected 2018 first round pick, the right to swap picks in 2016 or 2017 and Nik Stauskas so they could dump a few bad contracts in order to sign Rajon Rondo, Marco Bellinelli and Kosta Koufus - and if they had just used the stretch provision on those bad contracts, they could have signed two of the three anyway and not had to give up any assets. That pick they gave to Philly is going to be better than the one they got for Cousins.

3. It just makes me angry/sad that a team worth roughly $1 billion in a league which generates roughly $4 billion in revenue annually, and is a beloved team to a whole city, can be run so incompetently for such a long period of time. They haven't made the playoffs in 10 seasons and are now further away from the post-season than they have ever been before - I mean, Darren Collison is probably their best player now... What really is frustrating though, is that Sam Hinkie played the odds and gave his team the best chance to win a championship using the rules that the NBA has set. But when he does this to to the best of his ability, the league steps in, hires the Colangelo's who basically run him out of town. Yet when the Kings actively destroy their team oh that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. Smh.

4. THERE'S STILL 3 DAYS UNTIL THE TRADE DEADLINE WHY TRADE HIM NOW YOU HAVE 3 DAYS TO SEE IF THE CELTICS MIGHT CAVE IN AND TRADE THE BROOKLYN PICK OR THE LAKERS COULD PART WITH INGRAM WHAT THE FLOWER ARE YOU DOING SACRAMENTO. There's just major issues in direction and timeline that make zero sense, they traded future assets so they could build around Cousins only 20 months ago - this was when Cousins' trade value was at his highest. Yet now his value is at its lowest (heading into free agency) they decide to trade him. Fair enough that sometimes a franchise can make mistakes in terms of player evaluation or scouting but just dumb, short-sited, impatient decisions like this are unforgivable. They trade him last year and they would have got twice as good of an offer as they got today - heck, maybe they had an offer twice as good as the one from New Orleans already sitting on their desk today but they were too incompetent to realise, remember that this is the same team who didn't know what the stretch provision was.

5. Celtics should have beaten that offer, maybe they did I don't know but Boogie to me is someone worth cashing in all those trade chips for. I hope Ainge has something else in mind, or he was sure that Boogie won't re-sign, but we will see, maybe Boogie character is more toxic than we thought and his value around the league is not very high. Another amusing note is that the Pels have protected the first round pick they're giving up for top 3, and the Nets didn't even protect the pick they traded for Gerald Wallace that turned into Damian Lillard lmao.

What a crazy day.

[Mat0369]

Jay, I thought it was the 2018 unprotected as well but it's actually the 2019 unprotected pick.

A couple of things I read prior to the trade, the Kings apparently wanted Rozier in whatever deal the Celtics were offering, Ainge wouldn't budge and then the Kings stopped taking their calls when it looked like NO had a deal.

Kings didn't want to pay Cousins $200m after originally committing to it. Part of the reason apparently is Cousins growing foot issues. His weight could be playing a part as he is getting heavier every off-season and refuses to do anything about it. They thought sell now rather then in 12 months time if he had broken down.

More importantly, Trust The Process, Hinkie is the GOAT #HeDiedForOurSins

[Jay]

More importantly, Trust The Process, Hinkie is the GOAT #HeDiedForOurSins

He's literally the only guy who could save the Kings.

And as for Rozier, Ainge should have packed his bags for him if it meant getting Cousins - but I'm not sure how reliable that source is. I heard that Stevens just didn't want Cousins under any scenario, but yeah it's all rumour at this stage and I'm sure more will come out in the next few days.