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NBA Season 2016/17

Started by Jay, October 03, 2016, 10:55:56 PM

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j959

Quote from: Jay on January 22, 2017, 07:27:37 PM
Yeah Westbrook should have been an All-Star starter but he missed out because the back-to-back MVP on the best team in basketball got in, which isn't as crazy as everyone is making it out to be. And then Harden > Westbrook is a toss of a coin, but I have no issues with Harden being chosen ahead, his team has played much better than Westbrook's with similar talent around him. The real snub was Lowry, how he wasn't the #1 guard in the east makes absolutely no sense.

Lowry: 23.9 PER, 2nd in Real Plus-Minus, 7.4 Win Shares, 124 offensive rating, 64 TS%
DeRozan: 25.2 PER, 114th in RPM, 5.5 Win Shares, 114 ortg, 55.7 TS%
Irving: 21.3 PER, 75th in RPM, 4.1 Win Shares, 114 ortg, 56.8 TS%

How you can watch the Raptors and think that DeRozan is their best player is just crazy. When Lowry is off the court they have a -3.6 net rating, that's right about where the Kings rank this season. With DeRozan off the court, they are +14.4 which is better than the Warriors.

I love Isaiah, he is 1st in isolation scoring, 9th as the ball handler in PnR and 3rd in pull-up shooting - he's an unbelievable offensive player and should make the all-star team, but even I couldn't make an argument for him to be ahead of Lowry just because IT takes away so much from your team defense whereas Lowry is good on that end. Overall, I don't think it was an awful set of starters, it wasn't perfect but I don't think it ever will be :P
it's an all star team Jay, they don't play defence in the all-star game ...  :P   ;)

j959

Quote from: Hawka on January 21, 2017, 12:46:43 AM
Quote from: j959 on January 19, 2017, 07:04:15 PM
Quote from: Hawka on January 19, 2017, 12:18:04 AM
I havent really gotten into Basketball until last year so i didnt have a team
and after Phillys last year i took an interest in them, even more when they got Simmons
i watch there first game against Oklahoma and they just lost but played well
ive been following them closey and i have been enjoying them even though they have lost alot more then they have won, and simmons will make them even better!
But i think Philly is my team :)
#bandwagon

just teasing Hawka, if you're just tuning in you won't know the recent history of 'the process' ... (Philly have been off-loading vet contracts and stashing draft picks the last 4-5 yrs (?? that about right peeps?) and tanking while hoping to draft a bunch of superstars (bit like a cr*pshoot though) ...

anyway, better to be a 6ers fan than a long suffering suns one ...  :P   :-X   :'(    ;)

ok, someone please help keep up my Phoenix interest pls ...

so ... Brandon Knight for Jahil Okafor before the trade deadline eh??   ;)
i knew they were getting rid of alot of older players recently :P
im not tryning to bandwagon haha i just like them
I know I was just teasing ...  ;)

With Simmons coming back, why not support our 'Aussie'??  ;)

Suns update ... WE WON TWO IN A ROW!!!   :o    8)    ;)   

#badtanking    ;)

Mat0369


Mat0369

I'd also like to thank the Kings for the pick swap. TTP

Jay

Quote from: Mat0369 on January 24, 2017, 10:48:37 PM
I'd also like to thank the Kings for the pick swap. TTP
I'ma let you finish, but Boston have one of the best pick swaps of all time!

Brooklyn are projected to win 8 fewer games than the 2nd worst team. ;D
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-nba-predictions/

But yeah I still can't believe how badly Philly fleeced the Kings in that trade. Hinkie should've been extended 10 years just for that.

Mat0369

Stauskas, the swap this year and another first to come when the Kings are even worse. Add in the Lakers pick which will probably convey as well. Hinkie is a god.

6'ers were looking like a potential 8 seed until the Embiid knee injury. Hopefully he doesn't miss the whole week.

jvalles69


plumdog millionaire

Really impressive win by the Celtics today. Second night of a back to back after a 3 game slide, the Rockets going for it with an 8 man rotation and only conceding 23 in the last quarter to one of the most high powered offensive teams in the league.  Hope they can keep it up and push for the second seed if possible.

Jay

LeBron complaining about the Cavs personnel is getting pretty annoying. David Griffin has done a great job of filling out the roster picking up guys like JR, Mozgov, Shump, Frye for not much, finding Delly out of nowhere, trading for Korver etc.

Maybe if LeBron didn't gift spots on the roster to his buddies (Birdman, James Jones, Mo) then the GM would have an easier job :)

Holz

Quote from: Jay on January 26, 2017, 04:04:13 PM
LeBron complaining about the Cavs personnel is getting pretty annoying. David Griffin has done a great job of filling out the roster picking up guys like JR, Mozgov, Shump, Frye for not much, finding Delly out of nowhere, trading for Korver etc.

Maybe if LeBron didn't gift spots on the roster to his buddies (Birdman, James Jones, Mo) then the GM would have an easier job :)

He is right though they need a playmaker. With lebron on the bench who is the playmaker? Its not irving.



So it means he cant rest. He is gettung old he needs to rest to continue being the best in the world. He has comparible minutes to legends did in their whole career

He could do what duncan did with proper rest.

plumdog millionaire

Okaro White with 10-7 and 4 blocks and closed the game for the Heat today. Where do they find these guys? And on a 10 day as well!

LaHug

Quote from: Holz on January 26, 2017, 05:16:53 PM
Quote from: Jay on January 26, 2017, 04:04:13 PM
LeBron complaining about the Cavs personnel is getting pretty annoying. David Griffin has done a great job of filling out the roster picking up guys like JR, Mozgov, Shump, Frye for not much, finding Delly out of nowhere, trading for Korver etc.

Maybe if LeBron didn't gift spots on the roster to his buddies (Birdman, James Jones, Mo) then the GM would have an easier job :)

He is right though they need a playmaker. With lebron on the bench who is the playmaker? Its not irving.



So it means he cant rest. He is gettung old he needs to rest to continue being the best in the world. He has comparible minutes to legends did in their whole career

He could do what duncan did with proper rest.

I honestly think they're the one team that could actually make Rondo useful again.

RiOtChEsS


Holz

Quote from: LaHug on January 27, 2017, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 26, 2017, 05:16:53 PM
Quote from: Jay on January 26, 2017, 04:04:13 PM
LeBron complaining about the Cavs personnel is getting pretty annoying. David Griffin has done a great job of filling out the roster picking up guys like JR, Mozgov, Shump, Frye for not much, finding Delly out of nowhere, trading for Korver etc.

Maybe if LeBron didn't gift spots on the roster to his buddies (Birdman, James Jones, Mo) then the GM would have an easier job :)

He is right though they need a playmaker. With lebron on the bench who is the playmaker? Its not irving.



So it means he cant rest. He is gettung old he needs to rest to continue being the best in the world. He has comparible minutes to legends did in their whole career

He could do what duncan did with proper rest.

I honestly think they're the one team that could actually make Rondo useful again.

Rondo is who i would want to.

Issue is does he disrupt chemistry. If lebron cant fix him nobody can.

Jay