AXV 2017 Rule Discussion

[Ricochet]

Another thing to put forward that's in other comps.
-24hr rule doesnt apply to first round picks.

Missing out on your first rounder a pretty high cost if you're not in for that 24hrs initially

I'm probably being a bit harsh here, but I'm not a huge fan of the rule.

As a coach in one of these comps, there's only two real tasks that you pretty much have to do. Team selection and list management (which encompasses delistings/drafting/trading etc). With the drafts, we're all footy fans and every coach should know when the draft is and when the draft they're coach in is starting, so I feel like coaches really should be making the best effort they can to be on within 24 hours of their comp's draft starting to at least see where it's at and when their pick may come about. Don't get me wrong, I know people have lives, activity decreases and this time of year can be particularly busy, but I don't think it's too much to ask.

That's my two cents on it anyway.

Yeh it would rarely happen anyway and it's only the first round.

But with SR today. Wasnt on yesterday for the start of the draft and didn't get on until mid today. So would have been skipped if Jay had picked. Luckily i got hold of him in twitter

At such a high pick it's pretty costly and yeh would rarely happen or we wouldn't have to wait long for them to get back in generally. 

2hr rule after being online would still apply

But yeh something to discuss anyway


@GL
World's man

[GoLions]

Another thing to put forward that's in other comps.
-24hr rule doesnt apply to first round picks.

Missing out on your first rounder a pretty high cost if you're not in for that 24hrs initially

I'm probably being a bit harsh here, but I'm not a huge fan of the rule.

As a coach in one of these comps, there's only two real tasks that you pretty much have to do. Team selection and list management (which encompasses delistings/drafting/trading etc). With the drafts, we're all footy fans and every coach should know when the draft is and when the draft they're coach in is starting, so I feel like coaches really should be making the best effort they can to be on within 24 hours of their comp's draft starting to at least see where it's at and when their pick may come about. Don't get me wrong, I know people have lives, activity decreases and this time of year can be particularly busy, but I don't think it's too much to ask.

That's my two cents on it anyway.

Yeh it would rarely happen anyway and it's only the first round.

But with SR today. Wasnt on yesterday for the start of the draft and didn't get on until mid today. So would have been skipped if Jay had picked. Luckily i got hold of him in twitter

At such a high pick it's pretty costly and yeh would rarely happen or we wouldn't have to wait long for them to get back in generally. 

2hr rule after being online would still apply

But yeh something to discuss anyway


@GL
World's man

That's only the 2hr rule I thought? Not applying the 24hr rule would be madness imho :P

[Ricochet]

Another thing to put forward that's in other comps.
-24hr rule doesnt apply to first round picks.

Missing out on your first rounder a pretty high cost if you're not in for that 24hrs initially

I'm probably being a bit harsh here, but I'm not a huge fan of the rule.

As a coach in one of these comps, there's only two real tasks that you pretty much have to do. Team selection and list management (which encompasses delistings/drafting/trading etc). With the drafts, we're all footy fans and every coach should know when the draft is and when the draft they're coach in is starting, so I feel like coaches really should be making the best effort they can to be on within 24 hours of their comp's draft starting to at least see where it's at and when their pick may come about. Don't get me wrong, I know people have lives, activity decreases and this time of year can be particularly busy, but I don't think it's too much to ask.

That's my two cents on it anyway.

Yeh it would rarely happen anyway and it's only the first round.

But with SR today. Wasnt on yesterday for the start of the draft and didn't get on until mid today. So would have been skipped if Jay had picked. Luckily i got hold of him in twitter

At such a high pick it's pretty costly and yeh would rarely happen or we wouldn't have to wait long for them to get back in generally. 

2hr rule after being online would still apply

But yeh something to discuss anyway


@GL
World's man

That's only the 2hr rule I thought? Not applying the 24hr rule would be madness imho :P

Oh yeh sorry 2hr rule in worlds

Why madness?

[nostradamus]

Definitely keep as is 2 hr & 24 hour combo is spot on for all rounds.

We all know when the drafts are and are capable of notifying others if there's a problem.

And if by chance anyone forgets well it's their own fault.

[GoLions]

Another thing to put forward that's in other comps.
-24hr rule doesnt apply to first round picks.

Missing out on your first rounder a pretty high cost if you're not in for that 24hrs initially

I'm probably being a bit harsh here, but I'm not a huge fan of the rule.

As a coach in one of these comps, there's only two real tasks that you pretty much have to do. Team selection and list management (which encompasses delistings/drafting/trading etc). With the drafts, we're all footy fans and every coach should know when the draft is and when the draft they're coach in is starting, so I feel like coaches really should be making the best effort they can to be on within 24 hours of their comp's draft starting to at least see where it's at and when their pick may come about. Don't get me wrong, I know people have lives, activity decreases and this time of year can be particularly busy, but I don't think it's too much to ask.

That's my two cents on it anyway.

Yeh it would rarely happen anyway and it's only the first round.

But with SR today. Wasnt on yesterday for the start of the draft and didn't get on until mid today. So would have been skipped if Jay had picked. Luckily i got hold of him in twitter

At such a high pick it's pretty costly and yeh would rarely happen or we wouldn't have to wait long for them to get back in generally. 

2hr rule after being online would still apply

But yeh something to discuss anyway


@GL
World's man

That's only the 2hr rule I thought? Not applying the 24hr rule would be madness imho :P

Oh yeh sorry 2hr rule in worlds

Why madness?

Because then the first round could potentially take over a week haha

[Ricochet]

Another thing to put forward that's in other comps.
-24hr rule doesnt apply to first round picks.

Missing out on your first rounder a pretty high cost if you're not in for that 24hrs initially

I'm probably being a bit harsh here, but I'm not a huge fan of the rule.

As a coach in one of these comps, there's only two real tasks that you pretty much have to do. Team selection and list management (which encompasses delistings/drafting/trading etc). With the drafts, we're all footy fans and every coach should know when the draft is and when the draft they're coach in is starting, so I feel like coaches really should be making the best effort they can to be on within 24 hours of their comp's draft starting to at least see where it's at and when their pick may come about. Don't get me wrong, I know people have lives, activity decreases and this time of year can be particularly busy, but I don't think it's too much to ask.

That's my two cents on it anyway.

Yeh it would rarely happen anyway and it's only the first round.

But with SR today. Wasnt on yesterday for the start of the draft and didn't get on until mid today. So would have been skipped if Jay had picked. Luckily i got hold of him in twitter

At such a high pick it's pretty costly and yeh would rarely happen or we wouldn't have to wait long for them to get back in generally. 

2hr rule after being online would still apply

But yeh something to discuss anyway


@GL
World's man

That's only the 2hr rule I thought? Not applying the 24hr rule would be madness imho :P

Oh yeh sorry 2hr rule in worlds

Why madness?

Because then the first round could potentially take over a week haha

Haha potentially but it wouldn't

Like Nost said we should be able to get hold of everyone within 24hrs

But like with SR today, a few hrs could have been costly. Especially if he had say pick 2-3

I wouldn't imagine it would ever happen but thought it should be considered just incase

[nostradamus]

Another thing to put forward that's in other comps.
-24hr rule doesnt apply to first round picks.

Missing out on your first rounder a pretty high cost if you're not in for that 24hrs initially

I'm probably being a bit harsh here, but I'm not a huge fan of the rule.

As a coach in one of these comps, there's only two real tasks that you pretty much have to do. Team selection and list management (which encompasses delistings/drafting/trading etc). With the drafts, we're all footy fans and every coach should know when the draft is and when the draft they're coach in is starting, so I feel like coaches really should be making the best effort they can to be on within 24 hours of their comp's draft starting to at least see where it's at and when their pick may come about. Don't get me wrong, I know people have lives, activity decreases and this time of year can be particularly busy, but I don't think it's too much to ask.

That's my two cents on it anyway.

Yeh it would rarely happen anyway and it's only the first round.

But with SR today. Wasnt on yesterday for the start of the draft and didn't get on until mid today. So would have been skipped if Jay had picked. Luckily i got hold of him in twitter

At such a high pick it's pretty costly and yeh would rarely happen or we wouldn't have to wait long for them to get back in generally. 

2hr rule after being online would still apply

But yeh something to discuss anyway


@GL
World's man

That's only the 2hr rule I thought? Not applying the 24hr rule would be madness imho :P

Oh yeh sorry 2hr rule in worlds

Why madness?

Because then the first round could potentially take over a week haha

Haha potentially but it wouldn't

Like Nost said we should be able to get hold of everyone within 24hrs

But like with SR today, a few hrs could have been costly. Especially if he had say pick 2-3

I wouldn't imagine it would ever happen but thought it should be considered just incase

l think you are misinterpreting my words.

I think the change you suggest is just catering for laziness and/or incompetence.

I want it to stay as is.

[nas]

Another thing to put forward that's in other comps.
-24hr rule doesnt apply to first round picks.

Missing out on your first rounder a pretty high cost if you're not in for that 24hrs initially

I'm probably being a bit harsh here, but I'm not a huge fan of the rule.

As a coach in one of these comps, there's only two real tasks that you pretty much have to do. Team selection and list management (which encompasses delistings/drafting/trading etc). With the drafts, we're all footy fans and every coach should know when the draft is and when the draft they're coach in is starting, so I feel like coaches really should be making the best effort they can to be on within 24 hours of their comp's draft starting to at least see where it's at and when their pick may come about. Don't get me wrong, I know people have lives, activity decreases and this time of year can be particularly busy, but I don't think it's too much to ask.

That's my two cents on it anyway.

Yeh it would rarely happen anyway and it's only the first round.

But with SR today. Wasnt on yesterday for the start of the draft and didn't get on until mid today. So would have been skipped if Jay had picked. Luckily i got hold of him in twitter

At such a high pick it's pretty costly and yeh would rarely happen or we wouldn't have to wait long for them to get back in generally. 

2hr rule after being online would still apply

But yeh something to discuss anyway


@GL
World's man

Problem solved re SR as have his work email. Basically for all comps have said will contact him so that's covered. Plus as you say, you have him on twitter

[Ricochet]

Another thing to put forward that's in other comps.
-24hr rule doesnt apply to first round picks.

Missing out on your first rounder a pretty high cost if you're not in for that 24hrs initially

I'm probably being a bit harsh here, but I'm not a huge fan of the rule.

As a coach in one of these comps, there's only two real tasks that you pretty much have to do. Team selection and list management (which encompasses delistings/drafting/trading etc). With the drafts, we're all footy fans and every coach should know when the draft is and when the draft they're coach in is starting, so I feel like coaches really should be making the best effort they can to be on within 24 hours of their comp's draft starting to at least see where it's at and when their pick may come about. Don't get me wrong, I know people have lives, activity decreases and this time of year can be particularly busy, but I don't think it's too much to ask.

That's my two cents on it anyway.

Yeh it would rarely happen anyway and it's only the first round.

But with SR today. Wasnt on yesterday for the start of the draft and didn't get on until mid today. So would have been skipped if Jay had picked. Luckily i got hold of him in twitter

At such a high pick it's pretty costly and yeh would rarely happen or we wouldn't have to wait long for them to get back in generally. 

2hr rule after being online would still apply

But yeh something to discuss anyway


@GL
World's man

That's only the 2hr rule I thought? Not applying the 24hr rule would be madness imho :P

Oh yeh sorry 2hr rule in worlds

Why madness?

Because then the first round could potentially take over a week haha

Haha potentially but it wouldn't

Like Nost said we should be able to get hold of everyone within 24hrs

But like with SR today, a few hrs could have been costly. Especially if he had say pick 2-3

I wouldn't imagine it would ever happen but thought it should be considered just incase

l think you are misinterpreting my words.

I think the change you suggest is just catering for laziness and/or incompetence.

I want it to stay as is.

No i didnt, i know your against it. I just used a part of what you said,  in that we SHOULD be able to get hold of everyone.

And its not to promote laziness mate. I only suggested it for the very very remote chance that someone isnt on for 24hrs in the early stages of the draft. It wouldnt be hard to do over a weekend

Like i said itd probably never happen so it wouldnt hurt anyone

And i only suggest it for first round so its not like it would hold the draft up for days/weeks

[nostradamus]

Another thing to put forward that's in other comps.
-24hr rule doesnt apply to first round picks.

Missing out on your first rounder a pretty high cost if you're not in for that 24hrs initially

I'm probably being a bit harsh here, but I'm not a huge fan of the rule.

As a coach in one of these comps, there's only two real tasks that you pretty much have to do. Team selection and list management (which encompasses delistings/drafting/trading etc). With the drafts, we're all footy fans and every coach should know when the draft is and when the draft they're coach in is starting, so I feel like coaches really should be making the best effort they can to be on within 24 hours of their comp's draft starting to at least see where it's at and when their pick may come about. Don't get me wrong, I know people have lives, activity decreases and this time of year can be particularly busy, but I don't think it's too much to ask.

That's my two cents on it anyway.

Yeh it would rarely happen anyway and it's only the first round.

But with SR today. Wasnt on yesterday for the start of the draft and didn't get on until mid today. So would have been skipped if Jay had picked. Luckily i got hold of him in twitter

At such a high pick it's pretty costly and yeh would rarely happen or we wouldn't have to wait long for them to get back in generally. 

2hr rule after being online would still apply

But yeh something to discuss anyway


@GL
World's man

That's only the 2hr rule I thought? Not applying the 24hr rule would be madness imho :P

Oh yeh sorry 2hr rule in worlds

Why madness?

Because then the first round could potentially take over a week haha

Haha potentially but it wouldn't

Like Nost said we should be able to get hold of everyone within 24hrs

But like with SR today, a few hrs could have been costly. Especially if he had say pick 2-3

I wouldn't imagine it would ever happen but thought it should be considered just incase

l think you are misinterpreting my words.

I think the change you suggest is just catering for laziness and/or incompetence.

I want it to stay as is.

No i didnt, i know your against it. I just used a part of what you said,  in that we SHOULD be able to get hold of everyone.

And its not to promote laziness mate. I only suggested it for the very very remote chance that someone isnt on for 24hrs in the early stages of the draft. It wouldnt be hard to do over a weekend

Like i said itd probably never happen so it wouldnt hurt anyone

And i only suggest it for first round so its not like it would hold the draft up for days/weeks

Ahhh, l see the mistake there........

"Definitely keep as is 2 hr & 24 hour combo is spot on for all rounds.

We all know when the drafts are and are capable of notifying others if there's a problem.

And if by chance anyone forgets well it's their own fault."

......the "we" l was referring to was us all as responsible coaches taking personal responsibility if we had a problem in posting our picks or being online.

[Ricochet]

Another thing to put forward that's in other comps.
-24hr rule doesnt apply to first round picks.

Missing out on your first rounder a pretty high cost if you're not in for that 24hrs initially

I'm probably being a bit harsh here, but I'm not a huge fan of the rule.

As a coach in one of these comps, there's only two real tasks that you pretty much have to do. Team selection and list management (which encompasses delistings/drafting/trading etc). With the drafts, we're all footy fans and every coach should know when the draft is and when the draft they're coach in is starting, so I feel like coaches really should be making the best effort they can to be on within 24 hours of their comp's draft starting to at least see where it's at and when their pick may come about. Don't get me wrong, I know people have lives, activity decreases and this time of year can be particularly busy, but I don't think it's too much to ask.

That's my two cents on it anyway.

Yeh it would rarely happen anyway and it's only the first round.

But with SR today. Wasnt on yesterday for the start of the draft and didn't get on until mid today. So would have been skipped if Jay had picked. Luckily i got hold of him in twitter

At such a high pick it's pretty costly and yeh would rarely happen or we wouldn't have to wait long for them to get back in generally. 

2hr rule after being online would still apply

But yeh something to discuss anyway


@GL
World's man

That's only the 2hr rule I thought? Not applying the 24hr rule would be madness imho :P

Oh yeh sorry 2hr rule in worlds

Why madness?

Because then the first round could potentially take over a week haha

Haha potentially but it wouldn't

Like Nost said we should be able to get hold of everyone within 24hrs

But like with SR today, a few hrs could have been costly. Especially if he had say pick 2-3

I wouldn't imagine it would ever happen but thought it should be considered just incase

l think you are misinterpreting my words.

I think the change you suggest is just catering for laziness and/or incompetence.

I want it to stay as is.

No i didnt, i know your against it. I just used a part of what you said,  in that we SHOULD be able to get hold of everyone.

And its not to promote laziness mate. I only suggested it for the very very remote chance that someone isnt on for 24hrs in the early stages of the draft. It wouldnt be hard to do over a weekend

Like i said itd probably never happen so it wouldnt hurt anyone

And i only suggest it for first round so its not like it would hold the draft up for days/weeks

Ahhh, l see the mistake there........

"Definitely keep as is 2 hr & 24 hour combo is spot on for all rounds.

We all know when the drafts are and are capable of notifying others if there's a problem.

And if by chance anyone forgets well it's their own fault."

......the "we" l was referring to was us all as responsible coaches taking personal responsibility if we had a problem in posting our picks or being online.

lol no need to be a dick about it mate, its just a suggestion



I just don't see how it has a negative effect on the comp.

It mayyy happen once every few years, but probably not. Since like you said we're all capable

Just in the event something unusual happens and it does happen, its there

[upthemaidens]

Could just change the rule, from being skipped to receiving the next player in AFL order.
   That way in the rare occurrence that a Coach misses they will still get a top draft pick, especially if it's only a rule for the first round of picks.

[nrich102]

Could just change the rule, from being skipped to receiving the next player in AFL order.
   That way in the rare occurrence that a Coach misses they will still get a top draft pick, especially if it's only a rule for the first round of picks.

Yup, I'd be in favour of this, with of course the chance to change your pick before the next person picks

[SydneyRox]

As the person who caused some issues across a few comps, let me throw my 2c in.

It isnt always a case where you forget, cant be a**ed or just lazy. Their is a thing called real life that gets in the way and before you know it 2days have gone by.

Missing a 1st rounder in these sort of comps is a massive negative, and since most of the time the teams with the low picks are the worst teams who need the best players, skipping them doubles the effect.

Its not like we really need to rush it through, by mid Jan trading and everything else comes to an almost complete halt across all these comps.

Drafting and trading are the two best bits of why we are involved IMO and so we shouldnt be in a need to rush

So this isnt me having a whinge that I was almost skipped, this is just me agreeing that some sort of rule adaptation would be a good idea.

[Rids]

As the person who caused some issues across a few comps, let me throw my 2c in.

It isnt always a case where you forget, cant be a**ed or just lazy. Their is a thing called real life that gets in the way and before you know it 2days have gone by.

Missing a 1st rounder in these sort of comps is a massive negative, and since most of the time the teams with the low picks are the worst teams who need the best players, skipping them doubles the effect.

Its not like we really need to rush it through, by mid Jan trading and everything else comes to an almost complete halt across all these comps.

Drafting and trading are the two best bits of why we are involved IMO and so we shouldnt be in a need to rush

So this isnt me having a whinge that I was almost skipped, this is just me agreeing that some sort of rule adaptation would be a good idea.

I will play devil's advocate here. I think being a coach of a XV team means you have responsibilities to the comps, the other teams and coaches. Whilst I agree that life should always be a priority, it is often the case that you are directly postponing other people's lifes by not meeting those responsibilities. I must have checked fanfooty 1000 times over the 24 hour period in question. Saying that your own priorities mean that 2 days go by and not take into account that the same time also stalls for other people is prob not the greatest reasoning. I am in no way taking a pot shot here. But I have 2 weeks planned holidays mid to late Dec where the last thing I want to do is log on to fanfooty to take picks in drafts because others have forgotten etc.

I think moving forward though it is important for the admins to have some sort of way to contact all coaches to try and alleviate these sort of situations.

They dont happen often however so people need to try and understand each other's situations.