2016 WXV Awards and 2016 Rules Discussion

[Purple 77]

how come 8 vote auto rejects a trade (and 3 can cause it to fail)

but 8 votes to keep things as it is and it fails?

In trade voting, we are looking for an indication that something may be wrong with the trade. If a small group of people (the composition of which varies) thinks a trade is bad, we look at it. If 8 people think it is bad, it's half of the unbiased voters whom think it is bad, and is plenty indication that the trade is itself bad.

Rules for the competition is different, a democracy, where if the majority think it is good, then we go with it. Although I am a bit uncomfortable being the deciding vote, it makes sense that the person implementing the change (the admin) does indeed have the deciding vote.

[Holz]

how come 8 vote auto rejects a trade (and 3 can cause it to fail)

but 8 votes to keep things as it is and it fails?

In trade voting, we are looking for an indication that something may be wrong with the trade. If a small group of people (the composition of which varies) thinks a trade is bad, we look at it. If 8 people think it is bad, it's half of the unbiased voters whom think it is bad, and is plenty indication that the trade is itself bad.

Rules for the competition is different, a democracy, where if the majority think it is good, then we go with it. Although I am a bit uncomfortable being the deciding vote, it makes sense that the person implementing the change (the admin) does indeed have the deciding vote.

shouldnt it be in the case if half are happy with a rule and half are unhappy with a rule then is there really i need to change it.

i also dont think people understand the rule (im sure i dont)

i think the biggest thing that is looked over is its averages now not points scored. you know i dont like caps but at least the last one reflected the game.

now if im not incorrect (could be we only saw the top 20 players) someone like sam menegola or rupert wills who struggle to get games is now worth more then someone who is a lock 22 and puts up 75 each week. kinda seems crazy.

also how is the average worked is it 2 games average 90 3 games avergaing 80 and 22 games averaging 50 to get ab average of 55 or 70?

how is aaron black priced? he cant get a game anymore but played 22 games in 2014.

The big one is archie smith.

if im not correct is he now a 96 averaging player? so worth more then say Petracca Mills Weitering

[Purple 77]

i think the biggest thing that is looked over is its averages now not points scored. you know i dont like caps but at least the last one reflected the game.

What? That was the single biggest criticism of the cap! The salary cap is a much better reflection of the WXVs ladder.

Archie Smith would get a discount because he didn't play many games, whereas Petracca and co won't get that discount. Oz has explained this.

[ossie85]

I'll show you all the prices of those players you mentioned tomorrow when I have final data

[DazBurg]

i admit too i'm still confused on this $ cap on how exactly it all works
so will be keen to see final results of it then i'm sure i will have some questions
to help understand it

[DazBurg]

also interested
what does that mean for the bombers who missed this year?
in this form,ula
are they just charged at the 2 or 3 years prior?

[ossie85]

also interested
what does that mean for the bombers who missed this year?
in this form,ula
are they just charged at the 2 or 3 years prior?

No other suspensions are adjusted for, so the Bombers will be cheaper. Think it is good compensation for those teams having them slightly cheaper

[Nige]

I'm sorry, but a rule change without a majority is a flowering joke.

[DazBurg]

also interested
what does that mean for the bombers who missed this year?
in this form,ula
are they just charged at the 2 or 3 years prior?

No other suspensions are adjusted for, so the Bombers will be cheaper. Think it is good compensation for those teams having them slightly cheaper

cheers for the answer Oss :)

[RaisyDaisy]

I'm sorry, but a rule change without a majority is a flowering joke.

Agree

Introducing a completely new system now based on a majority split more or less is wrong imo

All these flowering discounts etc that now need to worked out etc. Points Cap was so easy

[ossie85]

I'm sorry, but a rule change without a majority is a flowering joke.

Agree

Introducing a completely new system now based on a majority split more or less is wrong imo

All these flowering discounts etc that now need to worked out etc. Points Cap was so easy

The $ cap will actually keep the salary of players stable, so if you know what your player is worth at the start of the year, you'll have a good idea on what he's worth at the end.

The points cap meant one injury would dramatically change things

[RaisyDaisy]

Still shouldn't be passing when the vote was more or less split

I would have naturally thought that when votes are that close, the change is not passed

[Boomz]

Will go with whatever is decided but think if the vote is that close we should be sticking with the previous rule.

[ossie85]

Should we vote for how close a vote should be before it is a vote? What if that vote is close?

[Torpedo10]

I think it's comical how so many coaches wanted the Admin/s to take more control and into their own hands, they attempt to do that and then those same coaches start whinging when they don't like the results!