2016 WXV Awards and 2016 Rules Discussion

[ossie85]

And on the salary multiplication factors, I'd personally prefer the scores to come from the H&A season games (so 17 per year), and not 22, as because that's beyond scope of our competition. But I'm a fan of the salary cap personally.

Yeah, I ummed and arred about that for a while. Ultimately went with 22 games... because it just seemed to be extra information we weren't factoring in. Someone could theoretically have played 15 games, averaged 100, and he'd be worth $100k in Worlds. Particularly for the players that have debuted late in the season, cutting off the last few games could have a significant impact on their price.

[JBs-Hawks]

I vote for whatever meow votes for!

[ossie85]

I vote for whatever meow votes for!

nekminnit



(AKA The Trump supporter base)!


But he agrees with me, so do that :P

[Holz]

How about you STFU and let Mexico City decide that?

you cant talk about a rule, without looking at how people react to that rule. Mexico is going to be forced to make moves outside their control because of the cap so we should actually analyse what these changes will be .

this is the perfect example. You introduce a tax on something, you spend all your time working on the exact amount but then you dont look out the effect of it. That is insane.

[GoLions]

I prefer the cap as is

You prefer Jeff Garlett to cost half as much as Dangerfield instead of him costing about 300K vs Danger's 800K? HOW? WHY?

Every player is currently valued on how much points they scored for the year, so if Garlett scores half the points Danger scores than so be it. We as coaches know the value of players and we value players differently, and that's all part of the trading system, but in terms of the valuation of each team, why is changing from points scored to a dollar value so much better?

If Beams scores flower all for the season due to injury, then so be it :P

[meow meow]

I vote for whatever meow votes for!

COMPO!

Mexico is going to be forced to make moves outside their control

Pretty sure they are in control during the trade period. More utter BS from you.

[Holz]

Can we have opinions on what the cap will do rather then how to make the cap. I have addressed it but havent seen the other side address it at all.

Using mexico as a case study how do they go about fixing the cap issue and how does this benefit the comp. Give a valid answer to that and then everyone should vote for to approve the cap.

[ossie85]

We should be respectful guys, just as an aside...

[Holz]

Mexico is going to be forced to make moves outside their control

Pretty sure they are in control during the trade period. More utter BS from you.

Sigh...

So they are over the cap. Do he or does he not have to make changes to his list that he would not have done otherwise.

if that is a true then yes they are forced to make moves outside his control.

the alternative is he plans his list the way he wants and goes over the cap. 

[meow meow]

You do realise that there is already a cap in place, yes?

[Holz]

You do realise that there is already a cap in place, yes?

yes but the biggest change in the cap is that he was slightly over and now he is massively over. hence im analyzing the effect of the cap rather then the cap itself.

and since im not allowed to say there should be no cap, then im saying how does this change in cap benefit the comp with a case study in Mexico. the technicalities of the cap are less relevant then the outcomes.

[Holz]

its really a shame that all the good interesting rules that add value to the comp like tagging and ruck (which purp wanted) have been now looked over to go over this cap issue.

[ossie85]

its really a shame that all the good interesting rules that add value to the comp like tagging and ruck (which purp wanted) have been now looked over to go over this cap issue.

No one is stopping you changing the subject Holz! Given your a key, if not the major part of the conversation, I'm sure people would follow...


Tagging is a great idea IMO

Less sold on the ruck one

[Holz]

its really a shame that all the good interesting rules that add value to the comp like tagging and ruck (which purp wanted) have been now looked over to go over this cap issue.

No one is stopping you changing the subject Holz! Given your a key, if not the major part of the conversation, I'm sure people would follow...


Tagging is a great idea IMO

Less sold on the ruck one

what did you think of my ruck explination on the rule, regarding Neville Jetta and Lance franklin.

[meow meow]

What will Mexico City have to do?

1. Hang on to all their old guys
2. Hang on to all their prime age players
3. Invest in youth.

They'll have to pick 2 of them. That's what.

Maybe they choose 1 and 3, then trade Bennell to a lowly club for a great pick.

Maybe they choose 1 and 2, then trade Papley, Hewett and Davis so Cairo don't have OOP mids but accept that they'll be shower later on.

Maybe they choose 2 and 3, then trade a Goddard to a mid team like Seoul so they can rise and challenge for the flag.