2017 Bargain speculation

Started by silvan14, August 01, 2016, 09:28:47 PM

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GoLions

Quote from: _wato on August 02, 2016, 11:28:33 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on August 02, 2016, 11:19:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 02, 2016, 09:09:20 PM
Heppell doesn't have the best disposal so in DT I will lock him but SC I'll have second thoughts.

I'm thinking of a midfield of Danger, Pendles, Fyfe Murphy, Beams and rookies.

Is Murphy worth it? won't get a discount, and I can't see him being a top 10 mid, so leaves him in an awkward spot

He'll be priced at only a 79 average, that's why he's definitely one to be considered. Probably around $425-430k?
Kind of an awkward price though, wouldneed to average 105+ to be worth it (or start off on fire and make 100k really quickly)

fanTCfool

Quote from: GoLions on August 02, 2016, 11:30:36 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 02, 2016, 11:28:33 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on August 02, 2016, 11:19:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 02, 2016, 09:09:20 PM
Heppell doesn't have the best disposal so in DT I will lock him but SC I'll have second thoughts.

I'm thinking of a midfield of Danger, Pendles, Fyfe Murphy, Beams and rookies.

Is Murphy worth it? won't get a discount, and I can't see him being a top 10 mid, so leaves him in an awkward spot

He'll be priced at only a 79 average, that's why he's definitely one to be considered. Probably around $425-430k?
Kind of an awkward price though, wouldneed to average 105+ to be worth it (or start off on fire and make 100k really quickly)

Murph is broken, 3-4 week ankle has kept him out for 10 weeks

HappyDEZ

Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2016, 09:19:50 PM
So if Heppell's normal price was $570000 that would mean he would $399000 now that is a bargain
That is a bargain. Doubt it will happen hto.

Mat0369

Quote from: Big  Mac on August 02, 2016, 11:19:36 PM
Is Murphy worth it? won't get a discount, and I can't see him being a top 10 mid, so leaves him in an awkward spot

Hell yes, even if he is priced at his average of 79 for this year he should be a lock. He has two early injury games which has seen his average plummet, the only worry is if he can stay fit for a season.

Quote from: GoLions on August 02, 2016, 11:30:36 PM
Kind of an awkward price though, wouldneed to average 105+ to be worth it (or start off on fire and make 100k really quickly)

He should average at least 105 next year. The only two worries are health like I mentioned and he was playing a bit of an outside role which saw his contested possessions drop and in turn he was scoring less this year. This is a guy with 4 years in a row where he averaged over 110 and the last two seasons he has averaged around 105.

Quote from: fanTCfool on August 02, 2016, 11:31:20 PM
Murph is broken, 3-4 week ankle has kept him out for 10 weeks

A high ankle sprain is a 6-8 week injury so it was no surprise he has been out this long.

RaisyDaisy

Murphy will be this year's Libba essentially

iZander

Na no way, Murphys done and dusted :P will get injured next year at some point

shaker

Quote from: HappyDEZ on August 03, 2016, 12:56:50 AM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2016, 09:19:50 PM
So if Heppell's normal price was $570000 that would mean he would $399000 now that is a bargain
That is a bargain. Doubt it will happen hto.

Both Heppell and Crowley suspended for similar reasons both missed the whole season you think they should get the same discount but yeah SC does have some things that never make sense
Quote from: Big  Mac on August 02, 2016, 11:19:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 02, 2016, 09:09:20 PM
Heppell doesn't have the best disposal so in DT I will lock him but SC I'll have second thoughts.

I'm thinking of a midfield of Danger, Pendles, Fyfe Murphy, Beams and rookies.

Is Murphy worth it? won't get a discount, and I can't see him being a top 10 mid, so leaves him in an awkward spot

No thanks on Murph got him this year and he was shower and he does fall into the category that I'm am avoiding next year players that seemed to get tagged most games

Gigantor

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Quote from: shaker on August 03, 2016, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on August 03, 2016, 12:56:50 AM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2016, 09:19:50 PM
So if Heppell's normal price was $570000 that would mean he would $399000 now that is a bargain
That is a bargain. Doubt it will happen hto.

Both Heppell and Crowley suspended for similar reasons both missed the whole season you think they should get the same discount but yeah SC does have some things that never make sense

When it comes to pricing I think the majority of the decisions SC make are for a good reason.

Like this year with Ablett, he wasn't given a discount because his price was already low (for him!) due to an injury affected year. If he was given a 10% discount (6 games) he would have been 560k and everyone would have picked him.

Based on this I doubt Fyfe will be give a discount as he will already be priced at 570k.

I'm also guessing the higher averaging Bombers like Heppell and Hurley could potentially get no discount or only 10%

SC want to avoid premos starting the year with 60+% ownership.

shaker

Quote from: Gigantor on August 03, 2016, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: shaker on August 03, 2016, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on August 03, 2016, 12:56:50 AM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2016, 09:19:50 PM
So if Heppell's normal price was $570000 that would mean he would $399000 now that is a bargain
That is a bargain. Doubt it will happen hto.

Both Heppell and Crowley suspended for similar reasons both missed the whole season you think they should get the same discount but yeah SC does have some things that never make sense

When it comes to pricing I think the majority of the decisions SC make are for a good reason.

Like this year with Ablett, he wasn't given a discount because his price was already low (for him!) due to an injury affected year. If he was given a 10% discount (6 games) he would have been 560k and everyone would have picked him.

Based on this I doubt Fyfe will be give a discount as he will already be priced at 570k.

I'm also guessing the higher averaging Bombers like Heppell and Hurley could potentially get no discount or only 10%

SC want to avoid premos starting the year with 60+% ownership.


I'm all for avoiding clone teams so if they can do it for players like Ablett this year and maybe Heppell next year they should look at handing out some more DEF/MID players by using some of the many mids that avg 90 - 105 that hardly anyone picks even if they don't qualify for it , all the competitive teams are made up of about 10 common back players this year ?

Gigantor

Quote from: shaker on August 03, 2016, 10:49:38 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on August 03, 2016, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: shaker on August 03, 2016, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on August 03, 2016, 12:56:50 AM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2016, 09:19:50 PM
So if Heppell's normal price was $570000 that would mean he would $399000 now that is a bargain
That is a bargain. Doubt it will happen hto.

Both Heppell and Crowley suspended for similar reasons both missed the whole season you think they should get the same discount but yeah SC does have some things that never make sense

When it comes to pricing I think the majority of the decisions SC make are for a good reason.

Like this year with Ablett, he wasn't given a discount because his price was already low (for him!) due to an injury affected year. If he was given a 10% discount (6 games) he would have been 560k and everyone would have picked him.

Based on this I doubt Fyfe will be give a discount as he will already be priced at 570k.

I'm also guessing the higher averaging Bombers like Heppell and Hurley could potentially get no discount or only 10%

SC want to avoid premos starting the year with 60+% ownership.


I'm all for avoiding clone teams so if they can do it for players like Ablett this year and maybe Heppell next year they should look at handing out some more DEF/MID players by using some of the many mids that avg 90 - 105 that hardly anyone picks even if they don't qualify for it , all the competitive teams are made up of about 10 common back players this year ?

Its a tough one, like you said there are heaps of mids just below premo level that never get picked but if they made too many Def/Mid or Fwd/Mid DPPs then all the pure Def and Fwd players will never get picked.

Maybe they could have a bonus system haha, have a guy with less than 10% ownership and get a 10% bonus on top of his score each week  ;D

Or a negative, lose 10% if the players ownership is above 40% or something

They would never do that but I'm not sure what else they can do to encourage more POD teams


jvalles69

Libba again due to stinking it up before his injury.  I still think Cripps is underpriced for what he's capable of.  As for Roughy, from my experience of working  with cancer...I don't think we'll see Roughy on the track again.  :(

shaker

Quote from: Gigantor on August 03, 2016, 11:14:11 AM
Quote from: shaker on August 03, 2016, 10:49:38 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on August 03, 2016, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: shaker on August 03, 2016, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on August 03, 2016, 12:56:50 AM
Quote from: shaker on August 02, 2016, 09:19:50 PM
So if Heppell's normal price was $570000 that would mean he would $399000 now that is a bargain
That is a bargain. Doubt it will happen hto.

Both Heppell and Crowley suspended for similar reasons both missed the whole season you think they should get the same discount but yeah SC does have some things that never make sense

When it comes to pricing I think the majority of the decisions SC make are for a good reason.

Like this year with Ablett, he wasn't given a discount because his price was already low (for him!) due to an injury affected year. If he was given a 10% discount (6 games) he would have been 560k and everyone would have picked him.

Based on this I doubt Fyfe will be give a discount as he will already be priced at 570k.

I'm also guessing the higher averaging Bombers like Heppell and Hurley could potentially get no discount or only 10%

SC want to avoid premos starting the year with 60+% ownership.


I'm all for avoiding clone teams so if they can do it for players like Ablett this year and maybe Heppell next year they should look at handing out some more DEF/MID players by using some of the many mids that avg 90 - 105 that hardly anyone picks even if they don't qualify for it , all the competitive teams are made up of about 10 common back players this year ?

Its a tough one, like you said there are heaps of mids just below premo level that never get picked but if they made too many Def/Mid or Fwd/Mid DPPs then all the pure Def and Fwd players will never get picked.

Maybe they could have a bonus system haha, have a guy with less than 10% ownership and get a 10% bonus on top of his score each week  ;D

Or a negative, lose 10% if the players ownership is above 40% or something

They would never do that but I'm not sure what else they can do to encourage more POD teams




Think there needs to be more of a balance there always seem to be a lot F/M which always end up in the FWD's but this year bugger all D/M if there had of been 8 or 10 of them with decent AVG's that would of helped to make teams a bit less clone like something they need to look at , it is not good in matches when teams have only 6 or 7 different players which happened a bit to me this year

kilbluff1985

my theory is they take goals scored into account so that's why there are more forwards

Ricochet

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 03, 2016, 01:07:14 PM
my theory is they take goals scored into account so that's why there are more forwards
No, they don't take goals or goal assists into account

Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2015, 03:46:16 PM
And this on the "Goal Assist" theory



There will be more forwards because a lot of mids rest forward

Holz

Quote from: Ricochet on August 03, 2016, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 03, 2016, 01:07:14 PM
my theory is they take goals scored into account so that's why there are more forwards
No, they don't take goals or goal assists into account

Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2015, 03:46:16 PM
And this on the "Goal Assist" theory



There will be more forwards because a lot of mids rest forward

isnt the magic number 35% so at 32% if he starts spending just a little bit more time up front (like 40%) then he sneaks in as a fwd.