WXV Official Trade Confabulation

[kilbluff1985]

Is one premo year worth one premo year, or more?

Bontempeilli. Gun. 12 premo seasons left in him. Could Pacific trade him for 12 premos with one year left in them each? Would they have to pay more for the immediate benefit to their team? Is the immediate more important than the distant future in a game like this? Do they have to pay more since they get 12 starters for one year, even though it'll even itself out over the next 12 seasons? Should Montagna cost PNL more than he would cost Cairo, since PNL are in the premiership race?

I encourage all teams to answer, since all teams vote.

[iZander]

Is one premo year worth one premo year, or more?

Bontempeilli. Gun. 12 premo seasons left in him. Could Pacific trade him for 12 premos with one year left in them each? Would they have to pay more for the immediate benefit to their team? Is the immediate more important than the distant future in a game like this? Do they have to pay more since they get 12 starters for one year, even though it'll even itself out over the next 12 seasons? Should Montagna cost PNL more than he would cost Cairo, since PNL are in the premiership race?

I encourage all teams to answer, since all teams vote.

Trades should be dealt on the merits of the players involved in the deal soley.

^Already have to cap so any trade rejection on "comp evenness" is irrelevant imo

Immediate impact worth more then delayed impact

[RaisyDaisy]

Sorry, but I don't consider the next the 12 years when doing a trade :P

There's every chance most of us won't even be here by then!

And

the whole basing a trade on the teams involved is a joke. Trades should be dealt on the merits of the players involved in the deal soley.

The most sense I've ever heard from Holz :P

[Holz]

the whole basing a trade on the teams involved is a joke. Trades should be dealt on the merits of the players involved in the deal soley.

The most sense I've ever heard from Holz :P

why thank you, i say it every time when its brought up for a reason that a trade is rejected.

[Holz]

Is one premo year worth one premo year, or more?

Bontempeilli. Gun. 12 premo seasons left in him. Could Pacific trade him for 12 premos with one year left in them each? Would they have to pay more for the immediate benefit to their team? Is the immediate more important than the distant future in a game like this? Do they have to pay more since they get 12 starters for one year, even though it'll even itself out over the next 12 seasons? Should Montagna cost PNL more than he would cost Cairo, since PNL are in the premiership race?

I encourage all teams to answer, since all teams vote.

Trades should be dealt on the merits of the players involved in the deal soley.

^Already have to cap so any trade rejection on "comp evenness" is irrelevant imo

Immediate impact worth more then delayed impact

Deferred Consumption has a discount factor to it when compared against Immediate Consumption.

Economics 101

[meow meow]

Alright, what kind of premium is put on next year vs future years? Are two 100 average players next season worth 3 years from one 100 average player?

M1: 100, 0, 0
M2: 100, 0, 0

vs

M1: 100, 100, 100
M2: 0, 0, 0

[Ringo]

Is one premo year worth one premo year, or more?

Bontempeilli. Gun. 12 premo seasons left in him. Could Pacific trade him for 12 premos with one year left in them each? Would they have to pay more for the immediate benefit to their team? Is the immediate more important than the distant future in a game like this? Do they have to pay more since they get 12 starters for one year, even though it'll even itself out over the next 12 seasons? Should Montagna cost PNL more than he would cost Cairo, since PNL are in the premiership race?

I encourage all teams to answer, since all teams vote.

Trades should be dealt on the merits of the players involved in the deal soley.

^Already have to cap so any trade rejection on "comp evenness" is irrelevant imo

Immediate impact worth more then delayed impact

Deferred Consumption has a discount factor to it when compared against Immediate Consumption.

Economics 101

With the cap do not think that fairness of comp should be a consideration.  Also time left for premo should be taken into consideration.  eg If Bonts was to be traded for say Dane Swan I would probably reject based on the Bonts potential to play 10 seasons compared to Swans 1. Know we can not factor in possible injuries but potential playing time left should be taken into consideration.

[meow meow]

If trades are to be dealt on the merits of players involved how is 12 100 average seasons not equal to 12 100 average seasons? Why is there a premium/discount factor?

[RaisyDaisy]

If trades are to be dealt on the merits of players involved how is 12 100 average seasons not equal to 12 100 average seasons? Why is there a premium/discount factor?

Because that scenario is 1200 points for one year vs 120 points per year over 10 years

How is that equal and fair? The team who takes the 12 gets 1 good year, and when they lose the 12 the following year they're flowered

[ossie85]

Cap: Designed to make sure teams don't get unbeatable or uncompetitive for any year (a good cap shouldn't stop teams being strong)

Trading: Based on a person's (reasonable) perception for the future (short or long term).

[meow meow]

If trades are to be dealt on the merits of players involved how is 12 100 average seasons not equal to 12 100 average seasons? Why is there a premium/discount factor?

Because that scenario is 1200 points for one year vs 120 points per year over 10 years

How is that equal and fair? The team who takes the 12 gets 1 good year, and when they lose the 12 the following year they're flowered

But it's their choice to go one way or the other. Who gets the better deal in your opinion?

[meow meow]

It's like getting paid. Would you prefer to get paid $52,000 in one go and not get paid for the rest of the year, or $1000 a week? Either way you still get the same amount of money. Same thing as getting the same amount of points scored for your team.

[Holz]

If trades are to be dealt on the merits of players involved how is 12 100 average seasons not equal to 12 100 average seasons? Why is there a premium/discount factor?

did you read points 1,2,3?

[meow meow]

Point 3 is moot.

Bont can fill one spot for 12 years, while the others can't fill any spots for 11 years. In the end it's 12 spots being filled in total in each scenario (assuming no injuries/only play for one season)

[iZander]

It's like getting paid. Would you prefer to get paid $52,000 in one go and not get paid for the rest of the year, or $1000 a week? Either way you still get the same amount of money. Same thing as getting the same amount of points scored for your team.

You get interest....youd take the 52k as long as you know how to budget