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Tom Rockliff

Started by Ringo, June 28, 2016, 09:54:32 AM

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Ringo

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/teams/brisbane/brisbane-captain-tom-rockliff-pulls--contract-proposal-he-made-to-the-lions-off-the-table/news-story/a3620679ca8679812858ff37e5bbcdf6

"TOM Rockliff’s future is up in the air after it emerged the Lions skipper has pulled a contract proposal he’d made to Brisbane off the table.

Relationships between club and captain are not strained and both parties say they want to strike a new deal but they are currently miles apart on the 26-year-old’s value.

Rockliff has a year to run on his existing deal, but his manager approached the club earlier in the year after Daniel Rich and Dayne Zorko were given lucrative long-term extensions, looking for a new five year deal, believed to be worth about $4 million.

But Brisbane baulked at the price and when negotiations stalled Rockliff became frustrated and withdrew his proposal."

First paragraphs from todays Courier mail - Rocky has said should not be a sign that he wanted out of Brisbane though. Rocky contracted to end of next year.

Concern is there though. Two schools of thought on this:
One is do we trade Rocky while he is close to peak and get currency for him. There is the concern that he is not a strong leader.
Two we need him for marketing purposes and should do our best to retain him.

My thoughts are is length of term 5 years may be the sticking point and trust we can resolve the situation.

Nige

I honestly think Brisbane losing Rocky would be disastrous.

Ricochet

Quote from: Ringo on June 28, 2016, 09:54:32 AM
Concern is there though. Two schools of thought on this:
One is do we trade Rocky while he is close to peak and get currency for him. There is the concern that he is not a strong leader.
Have to keep him imo. Brissie can't complain about boys wanting to go home and leave Brisbane, only to not look after their captain and push him out

Big Mac

4 mil over 5 is about right I'd think

meow meow

He's not worth $800k a year. No way.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: meow meow on June 28, 2016, 12:54:16 PM
He's not worth $800k a year. No way.

Agree

Fantasy Coaches froth over him, because he's a pig but he doesn't really dominate games and make a massive difference

When you think of the guns of the comp like Ablett, Pendles, Danger, Hanners etc etc he's not in their league IMO

That being said, he is one of their best players and the captain so they need to keep him, and with so many spuds in that side the salary cap shouldn't be a problem so he shouldn't have a problem getting 4M over 5

5-600k a year at another club would be about right, but at Brisbane, and being the captain I guess 800k is what he can demand

nrich102

Quote from: Ricochet on June 28, 2016, 10:18:09 AM
Quote from: Ringo on June 28, 2016, 09:54:32 AM
Concern is there though. Two schools of thought on this:
One is do we trade Rocky while he is close to peak and get currency for him. There is the concern that he is not a strong leader.
Have to keep him imo. Brissie can't complain about boys wanting to go home and leave Brisbane, only to not look after their captain and push him out
*Cough* Jed Adcock *Cough*

Ringo

Lets see what happens. When negotiations start you usually start high and agree $800k is probably a bit much when compared to Rich's 5 year deal at $600k and Zorko's 4 year deal at $500k. $650/700k probably more realistic.

Toga

I also agree that it'd be a disaster for him to leave Brisbane BUT;

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 28, 2016, 01:27:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 28, 2016, 12:54:16 PM
He's not worth $800k a year. No way.

Agree

Fantasy Coaches froth over him, because he's a pig but he doesn't really dominate games and make a massive difference

When you think of the guns of the comp like Ablett, Pendles, Danger, Hanners etc etc he's not in their league IMO

But you're absolutely right here - glaring stat I saw in the wake of the weekend was at half time, Rocky and Dusty Martin had 16 possessions a piece. Dusty had clocked up 360-odd metres gained, Rocky? 30m

While he's a superstar in the fantasy world he really has a bit of improvement to be done if he wants to be paid $800K a year.

strikes91

Metres gained is a very overated stat. Rocky lost 30m from 1 kick when we eventually switched it and led to a hipwood goal. Club needs to work out a deal, we cannot afford to lose him. Taking out his injurie affected matches he's averaging over 30 disposals, 14 contested and 9 tackles a match. Work rate that no one in the club has at the moment other than Mitch Robbo and Zorko.

T Dog

The Pies have history of trading in Brisbane players... perhaps a 2nd rd draft pick and Trav Cloke in a deal for Rocky?
:o You heard it here 1st

_wato

Rich 3mill/5
Zorko 2mill/4

Think those contracts should be swapped around lol as Rich ain't worth that much, and Rocky deffs worth 4mill/5 if so

iZander

Quote from: _wato on June 29, 2016, 02:33:00 PM
Rich 3mill/5
Zorko 2mill/4

Think those contracts should be swapped around lol as Rich ain't worth that much, and Rocky deffs worth 4mill/5 if so
These contracts are for AFL not your fantasy team ;)

Big Mac

Quote from: iZander on June 29, 2016, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: _wato on June 29, 2016, 02:33:00 PM
Rich 3mill/5
Zorko 2mill/4

Think those contracts should be swapped around lol as Rich ain't worth that much, and Rocky deffs worth 4mill/5 if so
These contracts are for AFL not your fantasy team ;)

Rich surely not worth 600k

I'd have him at about 350k, then maybe a little extra to get him to stick around at a shower club

RaisyDaisy

If Rocky gets 800k, then Zorko is getting shafted with 500k