NFL 2016/17 Season

[Jukes]

Cam Newton was so clearly the MVP last season, not even a debate :o

I think Matt Ryan has to get it this year. More proof that NFC south is the best in the league :P

Yeahhhhh nah

Palmer wasn't an Olsen/defence/schedule-baby like Newton was, he actually could throw downfield (iirc had the best air yards per attempt in PFF history) and was consistent all year, with a meh offense around him (old man Fitzgerald and a rookie RB really?) and they went what 10-6 or so? Plus putting up better numbers (900 more yards, 4% better completion %, 5 point better passer rating, 1.5 more yards/attempt, 100% better diving for the ball ability). I'd have 2015 Brady over 2015 Newton as well, and arguably Roethlisberger and Russ.


Torn atm between beating the hawks and tanking ;_;

[Jukes]

Number two pick boysssssss

Trubisky pls

[PowerBug]

Why won't a 40 TD/7 INT season win MVP this season? Rodgers put up huge numbers for the whole season.

[Gandalf123]

Why won't a 40 TD/7 INT season win MVP this season? Rodgers put up huge numbers for the whole season.

Yep, and his last quarter of the year has been huge

[Mat0369]

Should be, yeah. But I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of voters get it horribly wrong and vote for Zeke.

You mean the best player for the team with the best record in the league?

I think if any of Zeke, Matty Ice or Brady won MVP you can't complain. They have been consistently good all season long and important factors into the way their teams have played.

[Mat0369]

Yep, and his last quarter of the year has been huge

He was also really bad early in the season. For a consistency factor this year there are other guys ahead of him.

[PowerBug]

Yep, and his last quarter of the year has been huge

He was also really bad early in the season. For a consistency factor this year there are other guys ahead of him.

Early in the season? So first 4 games? 9 TD/3 INT, 56% completion, 876 yards (11.2 per completion) a 3-1 record and from memory he was injured as well and couldn't run that well? In comparison Tom Brady had 0 yards in the first 4 weeks of the season ;)

Yeah Rodgers wasn't huge in those early games, but he was still putting up decent numbers. And he hasn't turned the ball over in 7 weeks now. He has to be in serious contention for the award.

[Mat0369]

Early in the season? So first 4 games? 9 TD/3 INT, 56% completion, 876 yards (11.2 per completion) a 3-1 record and from memory he was injured as well and couldn't run that well? In comparison Tom Brady had 0 yards in the first 4 weeks of the season ;)

Yeah Rodgers wasn't huge in those early games, but he was still putting up decent numbers. And he hasn't turned the ball over in 7 weeks now. He has to be in serious contention for the award.

Heading into the Chicago game (week 7) he had not had a 300 yard passing game this season. He was also putting up similar statistical numbers to Johnny Manziel dating back to last season. Blaine Gabbert, who is terrible, was putting up better numbers then Rodgers.

What about this one heading into the Bears game?

Last 9 games:

Aaron Rodgers: 59.9%, 6.22 yards per pass, 84.3 passer rating
Case Keenum: 63.2%, 7.61 yards per pass, 89.6 passer rating

Forgetting stats he was playing like trash when you watched him play which is more important.

He flicked a switch in that Bears game and turned it on, but that shouldn't mean we discount the consistency of the other candidates. When you look at Matt Ryan he was more consistent and better in every statistical category other then TD's.

[PowerBug]

@ Mat: Fair enough he did look very very bad early on, but the ability to still churn out wins at the time (sorta) and not turn the ball over lots has to come into consideration. I think Prescott, Zeke should be ranked slightly ahead. Brady, Ryan I'm haven't seen enough of.

Palmer wasn't an Olsen/defence/schedule-baby like Newton was, he actually could throw downfield (iirc had the best air yards per attempt in PFF history) and was consistent all year, with a meh offense around him (old man Fitzgerald and a rookie RB really?) and they went what 10-6 or so? Plus putting up better numbers (900 more yards, 4% better completion %, 5 point better passer rating, 1.5 more yards/attempt, 100% better diving for the ball ability). I'd have 2015 Brady over 2015 Newton as well, and arguably Roethlisberger and Russ.

You've missed something pretty huge in your comments (Which isn't that Carolina went 15-1). Newton had 636 rushing yards at 4.8 ypc (no team averaged more than 4.8 ypc), 10 rushing TDs and a whopping 56 rushing 1st downs. Carson Palmer rushing? Well... 24 yards for the entire season :-\ Even the QBs that did run (Taylor, Wilson, Smith) had about half the 1st downs and less than half the TDs Newton did.

That's why he won Most Valuable Player for the season.

[RiOtChEsS]

Raiders at Houston
Dolphins at Pittsburgh
Lions at Seattle
Giants at Packers

[Capper]

Raiders at Houston
Dolphins at Pittsburgh
Lions at Seattle
Giants at Packers

I don't see an away team winning, maybe lions

[Jukes]

Rodgers is a Jordy-baby, as we saw in 2015. His numbers are good but he's not the MVP for me - Ryan has made Julio what he is while also using everybody on the offense

PB - rushing is easy when your coach designs great play action rollouts, read options, and sneaks on -and-1 situations. Especially when you have Kalil, Norwell, and Turner blocking the way for you to get those sub-one-yard scores. Read - 900 more yards, better completion %, better yards/attempt, better passer rating, and amazing deep ball play - with worse weapons too. You shouldn't be MVP if you complete under 60% of your passes and don't even hit 4,000 yards passing.

Agree that all home teams should win, with the lions standing the best chance of an upset due to Seattle's injuries and poor form

And fourthly, flowering stupid move to fire Kelly. Very decent coach, bad talent, good tanking initiative, bad GM. Either way, at least Baalke is gone. York next. Bring back Harbaugh. Move back to the stick. Draft GOAT Trubisky and GOAT McCaffrey somehow. Make the niners great again.

[Mat0369]

I don't see an away team winning, maybe lions

Giants will be the only away team that wins. They have a really good record against the Packers from memory and they haven't been a force at home.

And fourthly, flowering stupid move to fire Kelly. Very decent coach, bad talent, good tanking initiative, bad GM. Either way, at least Baalke is gone. York next. Bring back Harbaugh. Move back to the stick. Draft GOAT Trubisky and GOAT McCaffrey somehow. Make the niners great again.

It was a stupid move to hire him. The dude doesn't belong in the NFL. He is an egotistical moron and will probably go back to college now. Firing a coach after 1 season is not normally a good sign, but with Kelly it isn't exactly a surprise.

[plumdog millionaire]

West Coast Browns

[Capper]

Giants are too hot and cold for mind