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Started by RiOtChEsS, June 09, 2016, 02:17:14 AM

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Mat0369

Don't forget Holz also bandwagons LeBron. He is the definition of the word bandwagon.

Mat0369

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 07, 2017, 02:19:58 PM
Hate on the offense all u like but that D gave up 25 points in 17 minutes of game time, NE punted once in the second half

The Falcons should have intercepted helmet catch 2.0, but when the offense runs the ball a total of I think it was 4 times in the 2nd half with a 19 point lead that's just horrible play calling.

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 07, 2017, 09:48:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 07, 2017, 02:19:58 PM
Hate on the offense all u like but that D gave up 25 points in 17 minutes of game time, NE punted once in the second half

The Falcons should have intercepted helmet catch 2.0, but when the offense runs the ball a total of I think it was 4 times in the 2nd half with a 19 point lead that's just horrible play calling.
it's also how they play, ya go with what got you to the dance, it's easy to try and blame something or someone, i have never seen such consecutive intangibles favor one team, it was as if the universe was pulling for The Patriots

Jay

Few thoughts on the game after re-watching it:
1. If you'd have told me before the game that the Falcons would be able to get pressure on Brady I'd have said we were no chance. We all know that the recipe to slow down the Pats offense is to get pressure with 4 - which is something I had no confidence in ATL being able to do, but that first half they were all over him. It was only mid-way through the last quarter where the pass rush really started to slow down and then Brady just picked them apart.

2. The degree of difficulty to go up against 3 quarters of good pass rush and an all-time great offense is absurd, especially with Brady having a poor first half, never establishing the run, and receivers dropping balls they should've caught. The D limiting ATL to 7 points in the second half is almost just as important as the 31 unanswered points the offense put up. The biggest play that will get overlooked is the Hightower forced fumble - up 16 with a 3rd & 1 close, any score pretty much puts the game away, they drop back pass (even though Freeman averaged close to 7 yards per carry) and the rest is history

3. Seen a few comments about those holding calls against Atlanta, but when you go back and look at them, none of them were controversial. If you want to talk about dodgy calls, how about the Pats getting screwed on that XP try that the holder fumbled but got called back even though he clearly didn't jump over the long snapper. The Falcons play-calling was obviously terrible and how they managed to end up punting after that Julio catch will go down as one of the biggest botches in NFL history, worse than the slant call in SB49 imo - some of that falls on Ryan though, all he had to do was not take the sack on that play. But our gameplan wasn't flawless either, I'll never understand that TE screen call at the end of the first half.

4. Few other random thoughts.. James White was outstanding, it was classic Patriots to have Lewis and Hogan (the two who had a huge game each in the first two playoff rounds) be rarely used in the SB. If I had to rank the biggest bullshower/impactful/incredible catches in Pats SuperBowls I'd say Tyree catch > Butler pick > Edelman catch > Kearse catch > Julio catch > Manningham catch. Coming back from 28-3 was unlikely, but coming back from losing Gronk was just as improbable imo, credit to the coaching staff and Brady for getting it done without the #1 offensive threat. SB49 is still the greatest game I've ever seen because both teams played consistently at a high level whereas this one the Pats sucked in the first half and ATL sucked in the 2nd half - certainly the craziest comeback I've seen though. And finally, Brady in the fourth quarter of the last two SBs is 34-43 for 370 yards and 3 touchdowns. GOAT.

Mat0369

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 07, 2017, 11:40:26 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 07, 2017, 09:48:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 07, 2017, 02:19:58 PM
Hate on the offense all u like but that D gave up 25 points in 17 minutes of game time, NE punted once in the second half

The Falcons should have intercepted helmet catch 2.0, but when the offense runs the ball a total of I think it was 4 times in the 2nd half with a 19 point lead that's just horrible play calling.
it's also how they play, ya go with what got you to the dance, it's easy to try and blame something or someone, i have never seen such consecutive intangibles favor one team, it was as if the universe was pulling for The Patriots

Go and look at the play by plays of the other two playoff games. They handed the ball to Freeman and Coleman in both those games. They have 2 great young backs and have used them all season long but Shanahan decided to turn into Andy Reid circa 2007 and go pass happy in the 2nd half. It's football 101 to run the ball in that situation. Kick the FG and it's over. Regardless of what happened before or after that point because that was the defining drive of the game.

PowerBug

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 08, 2017, 01:03:20 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 07, 2017, 11:40:26 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 07, 2017, 09:48:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 07, 2017, 02:19:58 PM
Hate on the offense all u like but that D gave up 25 points in 17 minutes of game time, NE punted once in the second half

The Falcons should have intercepted helmet catch 2.0, but when the offense runs the ball a total of I think it was 4 times in the 2nd half with a 19 point lead that's just horrible play calling.
it's also how they play, ya go with what got you to the dance, it's easy to try and blame something or someone, i have never seen such consecutive intangibles favor one team, it was as if the universe was pulling for The Patriots

Go and look at the play by plays of the other two playoff games. They handed the ball to Freeman and Coleman in both those games. They have 2 great young backs and have used them all season long but Shanahan decided to turn into Andy Reid circa 2007 and go pass happy in the 2nd half. It's football 101 to run the ball in that situation. Kick the FG and it's over. Regardless of what happened before or after that point because that was the defining drive of the game.
Most definitely. 2nd and 11 on the NE 23, 3:56 to go when snapping the ball. Run for no gain (assume) and you're 3rd and 11 looking at a FG that should be scored. They probably take their first Timeout there too. Then run again and after the kick it'll be 11 points up with 3:40 to play 1 timeout to play with for NE. It's guaranteed onside territory if they manage to score.

Buuuuuut it didn't happen and we got to witness the comeback :D
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RiOtChEsS

If they ran it 3 times and didn't pickup the 1st down, miss the FG, people would say they should have thrown it, i got no problem with them going for the kill, im not gonna rip on a team that were up 25 on the Patriots in the biggest game of the season :-X

Holz

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 07, 2017, 09:32:05 PM
Don't forget Holz also bandwagons LeBron. He is the definition of the word bandwagon.

I really hope you guys arent serious and arent this delusion. Picking a winning team and sticking with them through ups and downs isnt bandwagon as the whole thing means when they start to turn bad you jump to another team.

Not my fault lebron and pats have been so great they havent fallen.

North, man u, ivanovic sure have


RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Holz on February 08, 2017, 01:07:32 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 07, 2017, 09:32:05 PM
Don't forget Holz also bandwagons LeBron. He is the definition of the word bandwagon.

I really hope you guys arent serious and arent this delusion. Picking a winning team and sticking with them through ups and downs isnt bandwagon as the whole thing means when they start to turn bad you jump to another team.

Not my fault lebron and pats have been so great they havent fallen.

North, man u, ivanovic sure have

You're first picking the team though when they are dominant, which is exactly jumping on the bandwagon

Of course you stick with them for life, but you initially followed them because they were the best at the time you got into the sport, so you jumped on the bandwagon

You obviously started following North and Man U in the 90's too :P


Jay

So to avoid being a "bandwagoner", I needed to start supporting the Patriots when I was 3 years old? (That's the last time they weren't good) :P

Holz

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Quote from: Jay on February 08, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
So to avoid being a "bandwagoner", I needed to start supporting the Patriots when I was 3 years old? (That's the last time they weren't good) :P


People are jealous of greatness jay.

Im just waiting for someone to come up with an asterix for this one.

Whats the most impressive is no gronk for this one. If gronk can get healthy brady should get his 6th.


Jukes

Bump

McCaffrey > Fournette >>> Cook

Mat0369

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