WXV Round 12: Reindeer Revival & Saint Slump

[Holz]

Funnily enough, that worked out for Dublin.

The alternative interpretation I was considering was Sloane to lose his resting bonus, but not be eligible for selection, as if he were, it just encourages further potential loopholing in the sense of "I'll play an AFL emergency and rest a gun and hope for the best... the worst thing that can happen is that my gun comes on and loses his rest bonus".

So I considered stripping his rest bonus and have Holz play an OOP mid from his emergencies, which would have been Byrne. He score halved is less than Sloane's quartered...

But in the end, the ruling I did I felt was the most appropriate, because you shouldn't have a midfielder named in the team submission and not come on if you needed a midfielder, nor at full points either. But yes Holz, you can suggest it go up to vote, but during the time of rule voting and not now. I'm sorry you felt you copped the wrong end of the stick, but you'll just have to cop it on the chin.

End of the day think i will win this week and next anyway.

Its a great way to tank though

[RaisyDaisy]

Apparently Tippett is off with a knee problem :(

If he doesn't come back on for the 2nd half, do we get our first emergencies score? And is it discounted because of OOP?

Would be stiff if that's the case, because Tippo's first half was decent!

[AaronKirk]

Apparently Tippett is off with a knee problem :(

If he doesn't come back on for the 2nd half, do we get our first emergencies score? And is it discounted because of OOP?

Would be stiff if that's the case, because Tippo's first half was decent!

Yep that is what will happen.

[RaisyDaisy]

Glad we slotted Conca into E1 then as he got 92

[Purple 77]

Apparently Tippett is off with a knee problem :(

If he doesn't come back on for the 2nd half, do we get our first emergencies score? And is it discounted because of OOP?

Would be stiff if that's the case, because Tippo's first half was decent!

Yep that is what will happen.

Tippett stays on field because you have no ruck emergencies

[meow meow]

This is a close one. I wouldn't mind Mason Cox being a late out tomorrow.

Hartlett is being next to useless again. Should have fired him for real.

Clay Smith made a successful return to football yesterday. He didn't just get through the match, he was best on ground with 36 touches.

[Purple 77]

After Sunday:

@Toronto, for cosmetic purposes (doesn't change anything), I've moved Jayden Short up to E3 and Nathan Brown to E4. Again, it doesn't change anything, just I needed to include him on the scorecard.

Some games already decided, with Mexico City setting the week benchmark at 1602  :o :o

And just when you thought Buenos Aires were done, Tom Lee scores a 14 to keep them in it  :-X but only a Pendletastic effort will get them there.

Score Summary
Cairo Sands (1254) from 15# vs Berlin Brewers (1010) from 12
Christchurch Saints (1042) from 12# vs Beijing Thunder (1059) from 12**
Mexico City Suns (1602) from 15# vs Pacific Islanders (1356) from 15**
Moscow Spetsnaz (1189) from 13** vs Buenos Aires Armadillos (926) from 12
New Delhi Tigers (909) from 12 vs Cape Town Cobras (1058) from 13#
New York Revolution (1292) from 14** vs London Royals (1187) from 15#
PNL Reindeers (1088) from 12# vs Tokyo Samurai (869) from 12#
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars (1411) from 14# vs Seoul Magpies (1443) from 12#
Toronto Wolves (1032) from 13# vs Dublin Destroyers (1180) from 13*

# = Captain Played
* = one Co-Captain Played
** = two Co-Captain's Played

E4's      
Beijing Thunder   Tim O'Brien   78
Berlin Brewers   William Hams   61
Buenos Aires Armadillos   Sam Butler   DNP
Cairo Sands   Rory Thompson   30
Cape Town Cobras   Lachlan Plowman   77
Christchurch Saints   Nathan Wilson   96
Dublin Destroyers   Oscar McDonald   0
London Royals   Matt Shaw   DNP
Mexico City Suns   James Rose   63
Moscow Spetsnaz   Wayne Milera   DNP
New Delhi Tigers   Nathan Krakouer   86
New York Revolution   Ben Sinclair   0
Pacific Islanders   Jake Kolodjashnij   28
PNL Reindeers   Ben Keays   23
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   Taylor Hunt   80
Seoul Magpies   Luke Russell   DNP
Tokyo Samurai   Shaun Edwards   37
Toronto Wolves   Nathan Brown   0

	Cairo Sands					Berlin Brewers
POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Dylan Roberton	81		81	D1	Shaun Burgoyne	85		85
D2	Jeremy McGovern	110		110	D2	Daniel Talia	84		84
D3	Eric MacKenzie	0	DNP	0	D3	Darcy Byrne-Jones	62		62
D4	Ben Stratton	44		44	D4	Jamie MacMillan	89		89
M1	Pearce Hanley	95		95	M1	Jack Steven	164		164
M2	Luke Dunstan	77		77	M2	Jack Viney	0		0
M3	Mathew Stokes	38		38	M3	Tom Liberatore	112		112
M4	Mark Hutchings	91		91	M4	Josh Smith	0		0
R1	Shane Mumford	99		99	R1	Max Gawn	0		0
F1	Paul Puopolo	108		108	F1	Michael Walters	80		80
F2	Rory Lobb	77		77	F2	Steve Johnson	97		97
F3	Ben Brown	54		54	F3	Lachlan Henderson	42		42
F4	Lincoln McCarthy	38		38	F4	Mark LeCras	42		42
U1 (DEF )	Dale Morris	59		59	U1 (FWD )	Charlie Dixon	83		83
U2 (DEF )	Nick Smith	76		76	U2 (MID )	Chris Masten	70		70
E1 (DEF )	Sam Rowe	70		70	E1 (MID )	Nick Suban	91	0	0
E2 (MID FWD)	Karl Amon	0	DNP	0	E2 (DEF )	Kyle Cheney	68	0	0
E3 (FWD )	Paul Stewart	48	DNP	0	E3 (MID )	Jordan Murdoch	42	0	0
C	Shane Mumford	99		99	C	Max Gawn	0		0
VC	Pearce Hanley	95		0	VC	Jack Steven	164		0
HA	Mathew Stokes	38		38	HA		0		0
RP		0		0	RP		0		0
NR					NR	Drew Petrie	63
		Total:	1254	15			Total:	1010	12

	Christchurch Saints					Beijing Thunder
POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Matthew Boyd	89		89	D1	Harry Taylor	103		103
D2	Jarrad McVeigh	68		68	D2	Luke Brown	59		59
D3	Ben Reid	0		0	D3	Sam Mayes	85		85
D4	Harris Andrews	75		75	D4	Daniel Howe	68		68
M1	Ryan Griffen	100		100	M1	Lachie Neale	51		51
M2	Hamish Hartlett	55		55	M2	Callan Ward	101		101
M3	Bryce Gibbs	80		80	M3	Oliver Wines	106		106
M4	Connor Blakely	66		66	M4	Brandon Ellis	89		89
R1	Mason Cox	0		0	R1	Brodie Grundy	0		0
F1	Luke Breust	92		92	F1	Dayne Zorko	86		86
F2	Jake Stringer	79		79	F2	Kane Lambert	73		73
F3	Kyle Langford	68		68	F3	Josh Jenkins	101		101
F4	Tory Dickson	60		60	F4	Christian Petracca	0		0
U1 (MID FWD)	Leigh Montagna	121		121	U1 (MID )	Josh Caddy	68		68
U2 (MID )	Jack Trengove	0		0	U2 (MID FWD)	Ben Kennedy	0		0
E1 (MID FWD)	Aaron Vandenberg	0	0	0	E1 (MID )	Bradley Hill	87	0	0
E2 (DEF RUC)	Jordan Roughead	70	0	0	E2 (MID )	Kade Stewart	70	0	0
E3 (DEF MID)	Sam Gilbert	68	0	0	E3 (FWD )	Jayden Hunt	0	0	0
C	Matthew Boyd	89		89	CC	Lachie Neale	51		26
VC	Bryce Gibbs	80		0	CC	Dayne Zorko	86		43
HA		0		0	HA		0		0
RP		0		0	RP		0		0
NR					NR	Jared Polec	72
		Total:	1042	12			Total:	1059	12

	Mexico City Suns					Pacific Islanders
POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Heath Shaw	118		118	D1	Rory Laird	112		112
D2	Kade Simpson	109		109	D2	Matt Suckling	53		53
D3	Jimmy Bartel	101		101	D3	Lee Spurr	89		89
D4	Matthew Broadbent	71		71	D4	Sam Day	92		92
M1	Tom Rockliff	104		104	M1	Tom Mitchell	98		98
M2	Trent Cotchin	114		114	M2	Marcus Bontempelli	127		127
M3	Brendon Goddard	60		60	M3	Andrew Gaff	47		47
M4	Brad Ebert	103		103	M4	Cameron Guthrie	50		50
R1	Shaun Hampson	122		122	R1	Rhys Stanley	23		23
F1	Brett Deledio	105		105	F1	Michael Barlow	104		104
F2	Daniel Wells	126		126	F2	Steven Motlop	58		58
F3	Brent Harvey	89		89	F3	Jarryd Lyons	109		109
F4	Adam Cooney	79		79	F4	Matthew Taberner	130		130
U1 (MID FWD)	Sam Gray	72		72	U1 (MID )	Michael Rischitelli	78		78
U2 (MID )	Ryan Davis	65		65	U2 (MID )	James Kelly	73		73
E1 (DEF )	James Gwilt	89	DNP	0	E1 (MID )	Sam Gibson	144	DNP	0
E2 (FWD )	James Sicily	63	DNP	0	E2 (RUC FWD)	Matthew Leuenberger	85	DNP	0
E3 (DEF )	Jeremy Laidler	39	DNP	0	E3 (FWD )	Jed Lamb	58	DNP	0
C	Tom Rockliff	104		104	CC	Tom Mitchell	98		49
VC	Trent Cotchin	114		0	CC	Marcus Bontempelli	127		64
HA	Brendon Goddard	60		60	HA		0		0
RP		0		0	RP		0		0
NR	Eddie Betts	86			NR
		Total:	1602	15			Total:	1356	15

[Purple 77]

	Moscow Spetsnaz					Buenos Aires Armadillos
POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Sam Docherty	141		141	D1	Zach Tuohy	59		59
D2	Paul Seedsman	83		83	D2	Easton Wood	0	DNP	0
D3	Nick Vlastuin	0	DNP	0	D3	Joshua Wagner	0		0
D4	Steven May	81		81	D4	Shane Biggs	66		66
M1	Robbie Gray	113		113	M1	Scott Pendlebury	0		0
M2	David Armitage	86		86	M2	Andrew Swallow	18	DNP	0
M3	Ryan Bastinac	93		93	M3	Isaac Smith	76		76
M4	Levi Greenwood	0		0	M4	Edward Curnow	96		96
R1	Nic Naitanui	89		89	R1	Tom Nicholls	102		102
F1	Jesse Hogan	0		0	F1	Tom Hickey	139		139
F2	Joe Daniher	90		90	F2	Shane Edwards	84		84
F3	Tom Bell	56		56	F3	Andrejs Everitt	43		43
F4	Tyrone Vickery	42		42	F4	Marcus Adams	0	DNP	0
U1 (DEF )	James Frawley	69		69	U1 (MID )	Jack Crisp	0		0
U2 (FWD )	Hayden Ballantyne	118		118	U2 (MID )	Richard Douglas	75		75
E1 (MID FWD)	Jack Sinclair	0	DNP	0	E1 (DEF )	Shaun Atley	65		65
E2 (DEF )	Tom Lee	14		14	E2 (FWD )	Rohan Bewick	84		84
E3 (DEF )	Tom Barrass	51	0	0	E3 (RUC FWD)	Daniel Gorringe	37		37
CC	Sam Docherty	141		71	C	Scott Pendlebury	0		0
CC	David Armitage	86		43	VC	Edward Curnow	96		0
HA		0		0	HA		0		0
RP		0		0	RP		0		0
NR					NR
		Total:	1189	13			Total:	926	12

	New Delhi Tigers					Cape Town Cobras
POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Daniel Rich	96		96	D1	Brodie Smith	68		68
D2	Phil Davis	78		78	D2	Shane Savage	97		97
D3	Tomas Bugg	0		0	D3	Matt Dea	94		94
D4	Sharrod Wellingham	40		40	D4	Luke McDonald	75		75
M1	Steele Sidebottom	0		0	M1	Josh P Kennedy	99		99
M2	Stephen Coniglio	108		108	M2	Lachie Hunter	63		63
M3	Kieren Jack	61		61	M3	Dion Prestia	84		84
M4	Mitch Wallis	96		96	M4	Dom Tyson	0		0
R1	Stefan Martin	56		56	R1	Mark Blicavs	82		82
F1	Jack Darling	74		74	F1	Craig Bird	63		63
F2	Jack Martin	45		45	F2	Touk Miller	38		38
F3	Jeremy Cameron	53		53	F3	Gary Rohan	45		45
F4	Jeremy Howe	0		0	F4	Dean Kent	0		0
U1 (MID )	Tom Scully	93		93	U1 (MID )	Darcy Parish	76		76
U2 (MID )	Sebastian Ross	99		99	U2 (MID )	Blake Acres	75		75
E1 (MID )	Jake Lloyd	58	0	0	E1 (MID )	Callum Mills	74	0	0
E2 (RUC FWD)	Zachary Clarke	42	0	0	E2 (FWD )	Peter Wright	62	0	0
E3 (DEF )	Darcy Tucker	71	0	0	E3 (DEF )	Trent McKenzie	57	0	0
C	Steele Sidebottom	0		0	C	Josh P Kennedy	99		99
VC	Stephen Coniglio	108		0	VC	Lachie Hunter	63		0
HA		0		0	HA		0		0
RP	Sebastian Ross	99		10	RP		0		0
NR					NR
		Total:	909	12			Total:	1058	13

	New York Revolution					London Royals
POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Josh Gibson	121		121	D1	Jesse Lonergan	30		30
D2	Tom McDonald	0		0	D2	Dane Rampe	66		66
D3	Shannon Hurn	68		68	D3	Bradley Sheppard	53		53
D4	Matt Rosa	91		91	D4	Ryan Harwood	60		60
M1	Mitch Duncan	117		117	M1	Daniel Hannebery	92		92
M2	Jordan Lewis	110		110	M2	Ben Cunnington	43		43
M3	David Mundy	73		73	M3	Luke Shuey	87		87
M4	Stephen Hill	88		88	M4	Billy Hartung	66		66
R1	Kurt Tippett	59		59	R1	Callum Sinclair	90		90
F1	Josh J Kennedy	88		88	F1	Maverick Weller	70		70
F2	Jarrad Waite	42		42	F2	Tom T Lynch	93		93
F3	Isaac Heeney	48		48	F3	Chris Mayne	112		112
F4	Daniel Menzel	121		121	F4	Tim Membrey	123		123
U1 (MID )	Liam Picken	65		65	U1 (MID )	Jarrad Jansen	35		35
U2 (MID )	Shaun Grigg	92		92	U2 (MID )	Will Langford	75		75
E1 (MID FWD)	Reece Conca	92	0	0	E1 (DEF FWD)	Daniel McStay	85	DNP	0
E2 (DEF )	Scott D Thompson	79	0	0	E2 (FWD )	Josh Schache	50	DNP	0
E3 (FWD )	Jack Redpath	74	0	0	E3 (DEF )	Orazio Fantasia	77	DNP	0
CC	Mitch Duncan	117		59	C	Daniel Hannebery	92		92
CC	David Mundy	73		37	VC	Luke Shuey	87		0
HA		0		0	HA		0		0
RP	Daniel Menzel	121		13	RP		0		0
NR					NR
		Total:	1292	14			Total:	1187	15

[AaronKirk]

Apparently Tippett is off with a knee problem :(

If he doesn't come back on for the 2nd half, do we get our first emergencies score? And is it discounted because of OOP?

Would be stiff if that's the case, because Tippo's first half was decent!

Yep that is what will happen.

Tippett stays on field because you have no ruck emergencies

59 in a half a fair effort from him.

[Purple 77]

	PNL Reindeers					Tokyo Samurai
POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Team Format: Attack	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Thomas Sheridan	78		78	D1	Martin Gleeson	67		67
D2	Corey Enright	73		73	D2	Courtenay Dempsey	38		38
D3	Zachary Williams	94		94	D3	Jack Grimes	0		0
D4	Marley Williams	0		0	M1	Luke Parker	59		59
M1	Matt Priddis	105		105	M2	Anthony Miles	72		72
M2	Dylan Shiel	88		88	M3	Aaron Young	81		81
M3	Nathan Jones	0		0	M4	Rory Atkins	65		65
M4	Billy Stretch	0		0	R1	Zac Smith	99		99
R1	Tom Campbell	68		68	F1	Luke Dahlhaus	29	DNP	0
F1	Cyril Rioli	98		98	F2	Jamie Cripps	44		44
F2	Justin Westhoff	92		92	F3	Jarryd Blair	0		0
F3	Chad Wingard	83		83	F4	Charlie Cameron	85		85
F4	Hayden Crozier	71		71	F5	Tom Phillips	0		0
U1 (MID FWD)	Zachary Merrett	97		97	U1 (RUC FWD)	Scott Lycett	38		38
U2 (DEF )	Nick Malceski	32		32	U2 (MID )	Jack Redden	49		49
E1 (DEF MID)	Jarrod Harbrow	90	0	0	E1 (MID FWD)	Dale Thomas	108		108
E2 (FWD )	Jonathon Patton	60	0	0	E2 (MID FWD)	Harry Cunningham	44	0	0
E3 (MID )	Brad McKenzie	44	0	0	E3 (FWD )	Sam Lloyd	68	0	0
C	Matt Priddis	105		105	C	Luke Parker	59		59
VC	Dylan Shiel	88		0	VC	Luke Dahlhaus	29		0
HA		0		0	HA		0		0
RP	Nick Malceski	32		4	RP	Jack Redden	49		5
NR					NR
		Total:	1088	12			Total:	869	12

	Rio de Janeiro Jaguars					Seoul Magpies
POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Kade Kolodjashnij	39		39	D1	Nick Haynes	86		86
D2	Elliot Yeo	96		96	D2	Cameron Sutcliffe	70		70
D3	Robbie Tarrant	119		119	D3	Jackson Trengove	90		90
D4	Tom Cutler	110		110	D4	Jack Frost	0		0
M1	Gary Jnr Ablett	127		127	M1	Patrick Dangerfield	229		229
M2	Patrick Cripps	90		90	M2	Lachie Whitfield	103		103
M3	Bernie Vince	0		0	M3	Joshua Kelly	81		81
M4	Travis Boak	91		91	M4	Jack Newnes	96		96
R1	Sam Jacobs	81		81	R1	Ben McEvoy	55		55
F1	Mitch Robinson	91		91	F1	Tom J Lynch	116		116
F2	Lewis Taylor	55		55	F2	Toby Greene	105		105
F3	Matthew Wright	112		112	F3	Travis Varcoe	0		0
F4	Mason Wood	79		79	F4	Caleb Daniel	85		85
U1 (MID )	Danyle Pearce	92		92	U1 (MID )	Liam Shiels	98		98
U2 (MID )	David Zaharakis	92		92	U2 (MID )	Clayton Oliver	0		0
E1 (DEF )	Brayden Maynard	0	0	0	E1 (MID )	David Mackay	80	0	0
E2 (FWD )	Josh Bruce	56	0	0	E2 (FWD )	Ben McGlynn	48	0	0
E3 (DEF )	Andrew Mackie	65	0	0	E3 (MID )	Lachlan Weller	108	0	0
C	Gary Jnr Ablett	127		127	C	Patrick Dangerfield	229		229
VC	Patrick Cripps	90		0	VC	Ben McEvoy	55		0
HA		0		0	HA		0		0
RP	Elliot Yeo	96		10	RP		0		0
NR	Scott Thompson	96			NR
		Total:	1411	14			Total:	1443	12

	Toronto Wolves					Dublin Destroyers
POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Team Format: Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Jasper Pittard	129		129	D1	Alex Rance	104		104
D2	Jimmy Webster	70		70	D2	Grant Birchall	92		92
D3	David Astbury	50		50	D3	Jacob Weitering	58		58
D4	Michael Firrito	34		34	D4	Heath Grundy	101		101
M1	Jack Ziebell	99		99	M1	Joel Selwood	141		141
M2	Jackson Macrae	79		79	M2	Adam Treloar	0		0
M3	Sam Kerridge	81		81	M3	Nick Dal Santo	54		54
M4	Jacob Hopper	44		44	M4	Rory Sloane	114	0.25	29
R1	Matthew Kreuzer	83		83	R1	Todd Goldstein	83		83
F1	Taylor Walker	62		62	F1	Dustin Martin	167		167
F2	Jordan De Goey	0		0	F2	Lance Franklin	57		57
F3	Jack Watts	0		0	F3	Jack Gunston	112		112
F4	Andrew Phillips	0	DNP	0	F4	Jack Riewoldt	101		101
U1 (DEF )	Angus Litherland	59		59	U1 (DEF )	Samuel Collins	39		39
U2 (DEF )	Tom Ruggles	81		81	U2 (DEF )	Neville Jetta	0		0
E1 (MID )	Brendon Ah Chee	0	DNP	0	E1 (DEF )	Ciaran Byrne	48	0	0
E2 (DEF )	Alan Toovey	0	0	0	E2 (RUC FWD)	Majak Daw	0	DNP	0
E3 (MID FWD)	Jayden Short	82		82	E3 (RUC )	Marc Pittonet	64	0	0
C	Jackson Macrae	79		79	CC	Adam Treloar	0		0
VC	Jack Ziebell	99		0	CC	Todd Goldstein	83		42
HA		0		0	HA		0		0
RP		0		0	RP		0		0
NR					NR	Rory Sloane	114
		Total:	1032	13			Total:	1180	13

[meow meow]

Blakely needs to learn that the game is called FOOTball. Had a team high 29 touches for Freo but he's Josh Kennedying it without the contested game. 22 handballs = not a lot of points.

[Nige]

So Gawn (c), Viney and Smith needed to score 233 or less collectively and we win? Too easy, let me just phone in a favour.  :P

[Purple 77]

So Gawn (c), Viney and Smith needed to score 233 or less collectively and we win? Too easy, let me just phone in a favour.  :P

It's actually entirely possible this doesn't happen  :-X but equally possible that Gawn does it single handedly :P

[Toga]

Church v 'Jing is gonna come down to the wire. Think I need to rely on Mason Cox to have a poor one :-X

[meow meow]

Heartless playing like he's already on 'jings list might cost us.