Selwood vs Rocky

Started by js19, June 07, 2016, 11:39:58 AM

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barlowlove

I've got Selwood and Gray. My order of the 3 would be Gray, Rocky then Selwood. Joel has been pretty average until Q4 last week.

My dilemma this week is Rocky vs Priddis vs Parker. Any thoughts on Priddis? People seem to fairly quiet on him, is he back?

no eye deer

I'm grabbing Gray this week. If Rocky pumps a couple more big ones out, and looks like he's worth the risk, then I'll just trade Libba for him for not too much coin.

ronl

Rockliff too much a roll of the dice for me at the moment, I'll stick with Selly.

MontyJnr

Quote from: barlowlove on June 08, 2016, 06:58:30 PM
I've got Selwood and Gray. My order of the 3 would be Gray, Rocky then Selwood. Joel has been pretty average until Q4 last week.

My dilemma this week is Rocky vs Priddis vs Parker. Any thoughts on Priddis? People seem to fairly quiet on him, is he back?

Priddis is a tricky one. He is fairly consistent and was best on for the Eagles at the weekend with 27 touches (20 contested) at 81% and layed 12 tackles. But he only scored 114 (he rarely kicks), so I still have doubts whether he can regularly hit that 115+ level that you should be expecting from your premium midfielders.

If he is only getting 100-105 each week, then there are better options.

Bully

Quote from: MontyJnr on June 08, 2016, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: barlowlove on June 08, 2016, 06:58:30 PM
I've got Selwood and Gray. My order of the 3 would be Gray, Rocky then Selwood. Joel has been pretty average until Q4 last week.

My dilemma this week is Rocky vs Priddis vs Parker. Any thoughts on Priddis? People seem to fairly quiet on him, is he back?

Priddis is a tricky one. He is fairly consistent and was best on for the Eagles at the weekend with 27 touches (20 contested) at 81% and layed 12 tackles. But he only scored 114 (he rarely kicks), so I still have doubts whether he can regularly hit that 115+ level that you should be expecting from your premium midfielders.

If he is only getting 100-105 each week, then there are better options.

Priddis has been one of the most reliable players for many years, 108, 114, 110, 101 (including a 5 after being knocked out), 112 & 113. Contrary to common belief he also has a very high ceiling, 159 this year, 196 last season, 155 the year before, 170 in 2012.

I'm not suggesting he's better than Rocky but for consistency, he trumps most of the competition.

MontyJnr

Quote from: Bully on June 08, 2016, 09:09:47 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 08, 2016, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: barlowlove on June 08, 2016, 06:58:30 PM
I've got Selwood and Gray. My order of the 3 would be Gray, Rocky then Selwood. Joel has been pretty average until Q4 last week.

My dilemma this week is Rocky vs Priddis vs Parker. Any thoughts on Priddis? People seem to fairly quiet on him, is he back?

Priddis is a tricky one. He is fairly consistent and was best on for the Eagles at the weekend with 27 touches (20 contested) at 81% and layed 12 tackles. But he only scored 114 (he rarely kicks), so I still have doubts whether he can regularly hit that 115+ level that you should be expecting from your premium midfielders.

If he is only getting 100-105 each week, then there are better options.

Priddis has been one of the most reliable players for many years, 108, 114, 110, 101 (including a 5 after being knocked out), 112 & 113. Contrary to common belief he also has a very high ceiling, 159 this year, 196 last season, 155 the year before, 170 in 2012.

I'm not suggesting he's better than Rocky but for consistency, he trumps most of the competition.

Yeah I gave Priddis credit for his consistency. Scored that 159 in round 1, do you think he can reach that kind of scoring again this season?

Bully

Quote from: MontyJnr on June 08, 2016, 09:25:02 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 08, 2016, 09:09:47 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 08, 2016, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: barlowlove on June 08, 2016, 06:58:30 PM
I've got Selwood and Gray. My order of the 3 would be Gray, Rocky then Selwood. Joel has been pretty average until Q4 last week.

My dilemma this week is Rocky vs Priddis vs Parker. Any thoughts on Priddis? People seem to fairly quiet on him, is he back?

Priddis is a tricky one. He is fairly consistent and was best on for the Eagles at the weekend with 27 touches (20 contested) at 81% and layed 12 tackles. But he only scored 114 (he rarely kicks), so I still have doubts whether he can regularly hit that 115+ level that you should be expecting from your premium midfielders.

If he is only getting 100-105 each week, then there are better options.

Priddis has been one of the most reliable players for many years, 108, 114, 110, 101 (including a 5 after being knocked out), 112 & 113. Contrary to common belief he also has a very high ceiling, 159 this year, 196 last season, 155 the year before, 170 in 2012.

I'm not suggesting he's better than Rocky but for consistency, he trumps most of the competition.

Yeah I gave Priddis credit for his consistency. Scored that 159 in round 1, do you think he can reach that kind of scoring again this season?

Not sure but in 2014 he notched up three 140+ scores.

no eye deer

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Quote from: GCSkiwi on June 07, 2016, 01:41:19 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on June 07, 2016, 12:14:44 PM
I was going to start a poll myself. Between Selwood, Rocky and Gray for me. Leaning towards Gray so far.

I crunched the numbers on all three for me Gray is by far the best pick.

Gray>>>Jelwood>Rocky for me.

Reasons:

Gray has had one crap score (53) which is dragging down his average a bit, but in 8 games he's gone 120+ 4 times. Median score is 114.

Jelwood doesn't have a middleground, he goes big (130+) or average(70-80), BUT he stays on the park. Played all 11 so far, 5 scores 130+, 4 under 90... Median is 105.

Rocky has pumped out a huge score and everyone is losing their minds over it, but the reality is he's played only 6 games and has only tonned twice. There are reasons for his terrible scores (including two 40s), but the reality is that he got those scores, if you had him in your team you copped a 40... Soft tissue injuries, so no reason it can't happen again, and the 204 made his average jump from 76 to 97, making him look a whole lot better literally overnight. Median score is 86. Possibly great value, but realistically so are Gray and Jelwood...

As someone who already has Gray, I'm looking much harder at Jelwood than I am at Rocky, I think at best Rocky will go 110 av from here, which isn't a killer.

Great analysis mate. Even more so in the Rocky thread.

PICCOLLO

Selwoods recent form has been a worry. It took me back to his slump from last year. Take out his last qtr from last week and his numbers read differently. Admittedly though, you have to look at the whole picture.

Rocky has injury concerns and, simply put, Selwood would have to be a corpse not to get out there most weeks. Durability is a big tick for the Geelong captain.

Where Rocky shines is his ability to put up big numbers. You only have to look at how he finished 2015 and 2014 to see what he's capable of and hes able to do it against anyone, anywhere.  And he does it all. Kicks, tackles, goals. He is relentless.

Uninjured, Rocky is the guy. But he is a risk.

King_Robbo

Quote from: Bully on June 08, 2016, 09:33:53 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 08, 2016, 09:25:02 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 08, 2016, 09:09:47 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 08, 2016, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: barlowlove on June 08, 2016, 06:58:30 PM
I've got Selwood and Gray. My order of the 3 would be Gray, Rocky then Selwood. Joel has been pretty average until Q4 last week.

My dilemma this week is Rocky vs Priddis vs Parker. Any thoughts on Priddis? People seem to fairly quiet on him, is he back?

Priddis is a tricky one. He is fairly consistent and was best on for the Eagles at the weekend with 27 touches (20 contested) at 81% and layed 12 tackles. But he only scored 114 (he rarely kicks), so I still have doubts whether he can regularly hit that 115+ level that you should be expecting from your premium midfielders.

If he is only getting 100-105 each week, then there are better options.

Priddis has been one of the most reliable players for many years, 108, 114, 110, 101 (including a 5 after being knocked out), 112 & 113. Contrary to common belief he also has a very high ceiling, 159 this year, 196 last season, 155 the year before, 170 in 2012.

I'm not suggesting he's better than Rocky but for consistency, he trumps most of the competition.

Yeah I gave Priddis credit for his consistency. Scored that 159 in round 1, do you think he can reach that kind of scoring again this season?

Not sure but in 2014 he notched up three 140+ scores.

For me Priddis is a no go.
He's a star, no doubt and to be honest I very nearly picked him up a few weeks ago and still could do as he is so cheap. But, as posted previously, the CD scoring system this year is heavily weighted to the players that break a line, kick more often and guys like Priddis, Wines, Libba etc their scores suffering because of it. Priddis, no doubt for me will average around 110 from here to home and that's a great pick for a m7-m8. However for me, I'm looking for a guy like Selwood, Sloane, Sheil, Treloar, Rocky etc who can all go really big like 140s a few weeks in a row and push my overall ranking thru the roof.

Grazz

Rocky was getting treatment for hammy tightness during the game last week wasn't he. Be a good POD but can we risk it. I'm happy to miss him as a bargain and pay extra if needed should he convince me the new treatment plan is working. 48 possies and 80% TOG is a good way to start convincing me but he hasn't strung more than 3 games together before blowing up, burnt alot of trades with injuries so I forced to wait and pay more to be sure.
Neale/Gray Selwood safer options for me to be looking at, Neale expensive but getting it done well.

MontyJnr

Quote from: Grazz on June 09, 2016, 01:01:49 AM
Rocky was getting treatment for hammy tightness during the game last week wasn't he. Be a good POD but can we risk it. I'm happy to miss him as a bargain and pay extra if needed should he convince me the new treatment plan is working. 48 possies and 80% TOG is a good way to start convincing me but he hasn't strung more than 3 games together before blowing up, burnt alot of trades with injuries so I forced to wait and pay more to be sure.
Neale/Gray Selwood safer options for me to be looking at, Neale expensive but getting it done well.

Neale is not only the safest pick, but the biggest POD of all if you can afford him.

Grazz

Quote from: MontyJnr on June 09, 2016, 01:20:35 AM
Quote from: Grazz on June 09, 2016, 01:01:49 AM
Rocky was getting treatment for hammy tightness during the game last week wasn't he. Be a good POD but can we risk it. I'm happy to miss him as a bargain and pay extra if needed should he convince me the new treatment plan is working. 48 possies and 80% TOG is a good way to start convincing me but he hasn't strung more than 3 games together before blowing up, burnt alot of trades with injuries so I forced to wait and pay more to be sure.
Neale/Gray Selwood safer options for me to be looking at, Neale expensive but getting it done well.

Neale is not only the safest pick, but the biggest POD of all if you can afford him.

Agree just so expensive at the minute, doubt he'll get alot cheaper. I'll have to sideways someone to him to do it. A luxury trade very tempting though.

no eye deer

I'd take Neale in a heartbeat, but he would cost me two trades. I can get Rocky, Selwood, or Gray with one. Still can't make up my mind which one though. :P

Asparagus

Quote from: no eye deer on June 10, 2016, 09:24:43 PM
I'd take Neale in a heartbeat, but he would cost me two trades. I can get Rocky, Selwood, or Gray with one. Still can't make up my mind which one though. :P
Rocky- injury risk- high
Gray- rest/surgery once finals out of reach- medium
Selwood- neither of these concerns

I have both jelwood and gray and would def go jelwood.