What to expect from Ablett and Hall

Started by ronl, May 28, 2016, 11:21:26 AM

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DaveElNacho

Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2016, 01:55:27 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on May 30, 2016, 01:11:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 30, 2016, 11:40:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
traded ablett to sloane 2 weeks ago to get a up on the competition. It has cost me 120 points.

Ablett is coming back in unless goldy is out. He looked fresh. only has to play 3 more games then gets another rest.

2 more games

I'm hoping his next 2 weeks are 100-120 because after his bye is when I'm hoping to bring him back in

Burning 2 trades? Really?
If you have got rid of Ablett surely you don't bring him back in? I have him but think he'll be mothballed along with Hall at some point

i might not trading sloane to ablett that silly.

im bringing in ablett for bennedy so im burning the 1 trade which was last week.

this week its just going ablett at 440k over gray at 400k.

had me excited for a second  :'(

no eye deer

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 30, 2016, 11:40:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
traded ablett to sloane 2 weeks ago to get a up on the competition. It has cost me 120 points.

Ablett is coming back in unless goldy is out. He looked fresh. only has to play 3 more games then gets another rest.

2 more games

I'm hoping his next 2 weeks are 100-120 because after his bye is when I'm hoping to bring him back in

I'm hoping he goes for back to back 160s! Reward those of us who kept faith in the Little Master! (And had too many other things to worry about....  ???)

Holz

Quote from: no eye deer on May 30, 2016, 07:52:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 30, 2016, 11:40:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
traded ablett to sloane 2 weeks ago to get a up on the competition. It has cost me 120 points.

Ablett is coming back in unless goldy is out. He looked fresh. only has to play 3 more games then gets another rest.

2 more games

I'm hoping his next 2 weeks are 100-120 because after his bye is when I'm hoping to bring him back in

I'm hoping he goes for back to back 160s! Reward those of us who kept faith in the Little Master! (And had too many other things to worry about....  ???)

Yeah i was coming from a place of strength with nothing to worry about. Then the rookies all went well.

Ablett is back in.

King_Robbo

Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 09:55:18 AM
Quote from: no eye deer on May 30, 2016, 07:52:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 30, 2016, 11:40:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
traded ablett to sloane 2 weeks ago to get a up on the competition. It has cost me 120 points.

Ablett is coming back in unless goldy is out. He looked fresh. only has to play 3 more games then gets another rest.

2 more games

I'm hoping his next 2 weeks are 100-120 because after his bye is when I'm hoping to bring him back in

I'm hoping he goes for back to back 160s! Reward those of us who kept faith in the Little Master! (And had too many other things to worry about....  ???)

Yeah i was coming from a place of strength with nothing to worry about. Then the rookies all went well.

Ablett is back in.

So let me get this straight.. You side swapped Gaz to another premo* in Sloane and now you're going to upgrade a rookie back to Ablett?
So you have just burnt a trade.. I don't get the logic here..
* I don't think Sloane is a quality premium this year in comparison to what else is available - has been pretty average

Holz

Quote from: King_Robbo on May 31, 2016, 10:22:13 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 09:55:18 AM
Quote from: no eye deer on May 30, 2016, 07:52:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 30, 2016, 11:40:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
traded ablett to sloane 2 weeks ago to get a up on the competition. It has cost me 120 points.

Ablett is coming back in unless goldy is out. He looked fresh. only has to play 3 more games then gets another rest.

2 more games

I'm hoping his next 2 weeks are 100-120 because after his bye is when I'm hoping to bring him back in

I'm hoping he goes for back to back 160s! Reward those of us who kept faith in the Little Master! (And had too many other things to worry about....  ???)

Yeah i was coming from a place of strength with nothing to worry about. Then the rookies all went well.

Ablett is back in.

So let me get this straight.. You side swapped Gaz to another premo* in Sloane and now you're going to upgrade a rookie back to Ablett?
So you have just burnt a trade.. I don't get the logic here..
* I don't think Sloane is a quality premium this year in comparison to what else is available - has been pretty average

at the time sloane was coming off a 5 round average of 114 and had just posted 141 on Geelong who where a top 4 team. He was also playing GC without Ablett and Hall and historically scores much bigger in wins then losses.

Ablett was looking sore coming off a 98 5 game average and every other team was struggling.

The logic was Sloane pumps a 140 and was my captain. Other teams where forced to play josh smith and he put up 70. so 70 points gained then points gained from captain.

Ablett could miss 1 maybee 2 games, start of slow then i trade libba to him round 14 after he has hid bye and he was fresh, maybe a little chepaer and I was looking great.


What happend was sloane 95, Smith 85 so 10 points gained. Then Goldy who would have been my captain if no sloane cost me 80 points.

This week Ablett breaks his trend and put up 143. So gaining another 50 points on sloane.

overall cost of the trade was a trade and 130 points.

but there was logic in the plan it just didnt pan out.

Got to rememebr sloane averaged 115 in 2014.

he was injured in the middle of last year. averaged 140 before getting knocked out in round 4. Then averaged 115 in the last 7 games of the season. Coming off a 5 game average of 114 the signs where all there he was a good pick up.

I still think he is good.

no eye deer

I hope he's still good. I traded Sloane in the same week as you Holz. So far, so bad...... :-\

Holz

Quote from: no eye deer on May 31, 2016, 12:08:53 PM
I hope he's still good. I traded Sloane in the same week as you Holz. So far, so bad...... :-\

I wouldn't say bad, just not very good.

95 and 95 if thats his floor is solid.

shaker

Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on May 31, 2016, 12:08:53 PM
I hope he's still good. I traded Sloane in the same week as you Holz. So far, so bad...... :-\

I wouldn't say bad, just not very good.

95 and 95 if thats his floor is solid.

Have Sloane as well and apart from 1 big game he has been disappointing , I got rid of Gaz same week as you Holz but I got Dmart instead and anyway you sugar coat it is looking like a bad move I won't be getting him back yet maybe later on if I have enough trades , you are much higher in the rankings and you are going for it but you will look back and say that was 2 trades wasted I'm sure.

Holz

Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on May 31, 2016, 12:08:53 PM
I hope he's still good. I traded Sloane in the same week as you Holz. So far, so bad...... :-\

I wouldn't say bad, just not very good.

95 and 95 if thats his floor is solid.

Have Sloane as well and apart from 1 big game he has been disappointing , I got rid of Gaz same week as you Holz but I got Dmart instead and anyway you sugar coat it is looking like a bad move I won't be getting him back yet maybe later on if I have enough trades , you are much higher in the rankings and you are going for it but you will look back and say that was 2 trades wasted I'm sure.

1 trade was wasted i already see that.

Its not 2 trades wasted as im not trading out Sloane im upgrading bennedy to a premo. So whether thats Gray or Ablett it doesnt matter.

shaker

Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on May 31, 2016, 12:08:53 PM
I hope he's still good. I traded Sloane in the same week as you Holz. So far, so bad...... :-\

I wouldn't say bad, just not very good.

95 and 95 if thats his floor is solid.

Have Sloane as well and apart from 1 big game he has been disappointing , I got rid of Gaz same week as you Holz but I got Dmart instead and anyway you sugar coat it is looking like a bad move I won't be getting him back yet maybe later on if I have enough trades , you are much higher in the rankings and you are going for it but you will look back and say that was 2 trades wasted I'm sure.

1 trade was wasted i already see that.

Its not 2 trades wasted as im not trading out Sloane im upgrading bennedy to a premo. So whether thats Gray or Ablett it doesnt matter.

So you only have to do 1 trade this week Bennedy to get Gray or Gaz ?

DaveElNacho

Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:56:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on May 31, 2016, 12:08:53 PM
I hope he's still good. I traded Sloane in the same week as you Holz. So far, so bad...... :-\

I wouldn't say bad, just not very good.

95 and 95 if thats his floor is solid.

Have Sloane as well and apart from 1 big game he has been disappointing , I got rid of Gaz same week as you Holz but I got Dmart instead and anyway you sugar coat it is looking like a bad move I won't be getting him back yet maybe later on if I have enough trades , you are much higher in the rankings and you are going for it but you will look back and say that was 2 trades wasted I'm sure.

1 trade was wasted i already see that.

Its not 2 trades wasted as im not trading out Sloane im upgrading bennedy to a premo. So whether thats Gray or Ablett it doesnt matter.

So you only have to do 1 trade this week Bennedy to get Gray or Gaz ?

Wouldn't that trade have been made regardless? The only trade that was wasted was the sideways trade Gaz to Sloane.

shaker

Quote from: DaveElNacho on May 31, 2016, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:56:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on May 31, 2016, 12:08:53 PM
I hope he's still good. I traded Sloane in the same week as you Holz. So far, so bad...... :-\

I wouldn't say bad, just not very good.

95 and 95 if thats his floor is solid.

Have Sloane as well and apart from 1 big game he has been disappointing , I got rid of Gaz same week as you Holz but I got Dmart instead and anyway you sugar coat it is looking like a bad move I won't be getting him back yet maybe later on if I have enough trades , you are much higher in the rankings and you are going for it but you will look back and say that was 2 trades wasted I'm sure.

1 trade was wasted i already see that.

Its not 2 trades wasted as im not trading out Sloane im upgrading bennedy to a premo. So whether thats Gray or Ablett it doesnt matter.

So you only have to do 1 trade this week Bennedy to get Gray or Gaz ?

Wouldn't that trade have been made regardless? The only trade that was wasted was the sideways trade Gaz to Sloane.

I look at it this way if I traded Gaz back this week with 2 trades plus the one to get rid of him that's 3 , if I had of kept him with money I had in the bank with 3 trades i could have got 2 more premos plus still have Gaz this week ?

Holz

Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 02:25:54 PM
Quote from: DaveElNacho on May 31, 2016, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:56:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on May 31, 2016, 12:08:53 PM
I hope he's still good. I traded Sloane in the same week as you Holz. So far, so bad...... :-\

I wouldn't say bad, just not very good.

95 and 95 if thats his floor is solid.

Have Sloane as well and apart from 1 big game he has been disappointing , I got rid of Gaz same week as you Holz but I got Dmart instead and anyway you sugar coat it is looking like a bad move I won't be getting him back yet maybe later on if I have enough trades , you are much higher in the rankings and you are going for it but you will look back and say that was 2 trades wasted I'm sure.

1 trade was wasted i already see that.

Its not 2 trades wasted as im not trading out Sloane im upgrading bennedy to a premo. So whether thats Gray or Ablett it doesnt matter.

So you only have to do 1 trade this week Bennedy to get Gray or Gaz ?

Wouldn't that trade have been made regardless? The only trade that was wasted was the sideways trade Gaz to Sloane.

I look at it this way if I traded Gaz back this week with 2 trades plus the one to get rid of him that's 3 , if I had of kept him with money I had in the bank with 3 trades i could have got 2 more premos plus still have Gaz this week ?

how is that possible.

this is what i did

Ablett to Sloane
Brown to Paine
bennedy to Ablett

if i kept Ablett

then

Brown to paine
Bennedy to Gray

its 3 v 2 trades.

If i trade in Gray instead of Ablett its not like that saves me a trade.

getting 2 more premos is impossible unless you had like 500k in the bank.

shaker

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Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 02:41:16 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 02:25:54 PM
Quote from: DaveElNacho on May 31, 2016, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:56:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on May 31, 2016, 12:08:53 PM
I hope he's still good. I traded Sloane in the same week as you Holz. So far, so bad...... :-\

I wouldn't say bad, just not very good.

95 and 95 if thats his floor is solid.

Have Sloane as well and apart from 1 big game he has been disappointing , I got rid of Gaz same week as you Holz but I got Dmart instead and anyway you sugar coat it is looking like a bad move I won't be getting him back yet maybe later on if I have enough trades , you are much higher in the rankings and you are going for it but you will look back and say that was 2 trades wasted I'm sure.

1 trade was wasted i already see that.

Its not 2 trades wasted as im not trading out Sloane im upgrading bennedy to a premo. So whether thats Gray or Ablett it doesnt matter.

So you only have to do 1 trade this week Bennedy to get Gray or Gaz ?

Wouldn't that trade have been made regardless? The only trade that was wasted was the sideways trade Gaz to Sloane.

I look at it this way if I traded Gaz back this week with 2 trades plus the one to get rid of him that's 3 , if I had of kept him with money I had in the bank with 3 trades i could have got 2 more premos plus still have Gaz this week ?

how is that possible.

this is what i did

Ablett to Sloane
Brown to Paine
bennedy to Ablett

if i kept Ablett

then

Brown to paine
Bennedy to Gray

its 3 v 2 trades.

If i trade in Gray instead of Ablett its not like that saves me a trade.

getting 2 more premos is impossible unless you had like 500k in the bank.

The 3 trades since the weekend I traded Gaz are Brown Adams and DBJ = $ 985500 + $249000 bank = $1234500 after getting one cheapie that leaves 1.1 mil , what I am saying this week I would have 1 more premo on the field if I did not trade Gaz ...... but I did

King_Robbo

Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 02:41:16 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 02:25:54 PM
Quote from: DaveElNacho on May 31, 2016, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:56:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on May 31, 2016, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: no eye deer on May 31, 2016, 12:08:53 PM
I hope he's still good. I traded Sloane in the same week as you Holz. So far, so bad...... :-\

I wouldn't say bad, just not very good.

95 and 95 if thats his floor is solid.

Have Sloane as well and apart from 1 big game he has been disappointing , I got rid of Gaz same week as you Holz but I got Dmart instead and anyway you sugar coat it is looking like a bad move I won't be getting him back yet maybe later on if I have enough trades , you are much higher in the rankings and you are going for it but you will look back and say that was 2 trades wasted I'm sure.

1 trade was wasted i already see that.

Its not 2 trades wasted as im not trading out Sloane im upgrading bennedy to a premo. So whether thats Gray or Ablett it doesnt matter.

So you only have to do 1 trade this week Bennedy to get Gray or Gaz ?

Wouldn't that trade have been made regardless? The only trade that was wasted was the sideways trade Gaz to Sloane.

I look at it this way if I traded Gaz back this week with 2 trades plus the one to get rid of him that's 3 , if I had of kept him with money I had in the bank with 3 trades i could have got 2 more premos plus still have Gaz this week ?

how is that possible.

this is what i did

Ablett to Sloane
Brown to Paine
bennedy to Ablett

if i kept Ablett

then

Brown to paine
Bennedy to Gray

its 3 v 2 trades.

If i trade in Gray instead of Ablett its not like that saves me a trade.

getting 2 more premos is impossible unless you had like 500k in the bank.

You have burnt one trade, not two.

But either way you're one trade less than everyone else. If I were you I'd stay away from Gaz. I'm consigned to the fact I'll have to side ways trade him at some point when he gets put in cotton wool..
What happens if he goes down next week? It would mean that you need to burn another trade to go Gaz to another prem.. I just don't get the sense in trading back in a guy who is a massive injury risk and you know will miss more games this year