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the red card rule discussion

Started by kilbluff1985, May 24, 2016, 12:13:08 PM

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kilbluff1985

a hot topic now lots seem to be for it

i know i view many things differently to most

but

i'm against it because

sending off a player affects the whole team having 1 less player for a half or whatever could cost a game or a top 8 spot

and more injuries occur when the team has less players to rotate

copping weeks is more then enough punishment imo

just posting to see if most on here agree with me or not

Big Mac

I'm against it, purely because I don't trust the umpires to implement it correctly (through no fault of their own btw, the game is too fast for them to make the right call 100% of the time)

GoLions

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 24, 2016, 12:13:08 PM
a hot topic now lots seem to be for it

i know i view many things differently to most

but

i'm against it because

sending off a player affects the whole team having 1 less player for a half or whatever could cost a game or a top 8 spot

and more injuries occur when the team has less players to rotate

copping weeks is more then enough punishment imo

just posting to see if most on here agree with me or not
Isn't that the whole point? :P

You knock someone out, so because they can't participate in the rest of the game, neither can you.

I'm not really sure how I feel about it atm. Would be hard to implement, as some things are simply accidents, whereas some are simply being a dickhead.

Gigantor

If the umpires were infallible then yes it would be a great idea but unfortunately they are not so it would never work

Could you imagine if Razor had that kind of authoritah! We would be playing 15 a side by the end of the match  :)

Grazz

Feel much the same as BM and Gigantor, I don't trust the umps to police it and I think players could take advantage of it also.

Holz

#5
im ok with it only if its in serious cases.

for example the only 2 that should have been done this year are  May and Jonas. It should be a rule only implemented under 5 times a year. Just for when its a clear 4+ weeks suspension.

If you injure a player that they cant come back on your actually improving your teams chances of winning as they are one less. You could argue that in fairness the team should have a further disadvantage but apart from that this balances it out.

at least its not soccer where you play with 10 men.


Ricochet

Quote from: Big  Mac on May 24, 2016, 12:15:36 PM
I'm against it, purely because I don't trust the umpires to implement it correctly (through no fault of their own btw, the game is too fast for them to make the right call 100% of the time)
This.

We see matchday reports get thrown out after reviewing evidence days later. Red Cards put more pressure on Umps and their decision carries even more weight

Sydney14

I'm against it, I don't think there is that big of a need for it to begin with and I'd be a little worried if someone got forced off the field for an accident or something minor. Suspensions as punishment works fine.

Bill Manspeaker

yep with Macca

there is some logic behind it, like for the Jonas incident, but I can see it getting out of hand where a player gets sent off and it's a 50/50ish sorta thing, and all hell will break loose

Ringo

I am torn a little here. There is some logic for it though.

I would like to see that if a player is hurt or injured as a result of illegal play then the perpetuating player is subbed out until such time as the injured player returns. (Video or reserve umpire can also be involved in the decision as to whether deliberate or not).  If the injured player does not return so be it.  So many times we see teams crippled by lack of rotations due to these incidents so I think it is fair that the teams should be evened out.

PowerBug

Why did this only come up when Jonas hit Gaff and not when May hit Martin or Rance hit Watts??

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elephants

Quote from: PowerBug on May 24, 2016, 03:33:31 PM
Why did this only come up when Jonas hit Gaff and not when May hit Martin or Rance hit Watts??

General consensus is the Jonas hit was worse.




I don't mind it. Like, I see why it could be brought in. Jonas took one of our best players out of the game completely yet its the teams he plays over the next month that benefit from his actions, not the Eagles - who were the ones most disadvantaged.

I'm in favour of it, but only for insanely blatant things like Barry Hall decking Staker. Definitely wouldn't want to see it become a regular thing.

My Chumps

Definitely not. Total overreaction to a few incidents. If it ain't broke...

RaisyDaisy

#14
Dunno about this

There def is an advantage for the rest of the game for the team who has the culprit as they remain full strength why the opponents are down a man

If some gets cleaned up badly, and needs to be stretchered off I wouldn't mind seeing the person who did it have to leave the field for the same period of time, and then can only return if the injured player returns

Stretcher rule maybe?

First emergency gets to come on as replacement?

But then again

Quote from: My Chumps on May 24, 2016, 03:46:15 PM
Total overreaction to a few incidents. If it ain't broke...

Not really fussed either way as it's very small in the grand scheme of things